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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post


How did you come to that number? Sh*t that's way expensive.

 

Mouser's Australian site charges $100 for the chips themselves and then shipping is $36 or something equally as exorbitant. Unless I'm remembering inaccurately.. I'll go check again.

 

Edit: $139.68 for a single MUSES02 - it seems I have to spend $200 before I can get free shipping


Edited by Loquah - 6/29/14 at 2:43am
post #1352 of 2227
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Mouser's Australian site charges $100 for the chips themselves and then shipping is $36 or something equally as exorbitant. Unless I'm remembering inaccurately.. I'll go check again.

No need, you're spot on. That's why I took one look & went 'Nup'. Not paying prices like that, amp sounds perfectly fine with supplied components, not interested in paying that kind of money for minor incremental (and even that's a maybe) changes to sound.
post #1353 of 2227
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What do you prefer about it to the MUSES02? The MUSES02 will cost me $136 shipped from Mouser so I'd much prefer the 627s if they suit my tastes!

Digikey is cheaper at around $75.  Here in Japan they are about $35 but by the time you pay shipping and the Tenso service it is about the same cost.   Probably just as easy to get from Digikey.

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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

Mouser's Australian site charges $100 for the chips themselves and then shipping is $36 or something equally as exorbitant. Unless I'm remembering inaccurately.. I'll go check again.

Edit: $139.68 for a single MUSES02 - it seems I have to spend $200 before I can get free shipping

Australia has absolutely disgusting import prices. I have a friend living there and it's nuts. I'm sorry for you man.
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No need, you're spot on. That's why I took one look & went 'Nup'. Not paying prices like that, amp sounds perfectly fine with supplied components, not interested in paying that kind of money for minor incremental (and even that's a maybe) changes to sound.

Agreed. The muse 02 is worth some money, but not $135 money.
post #1355 of 2227

A pair of OPA627AUs will set me back about $70 so I can swallow that if it's a worthy upgrade over LME49990 or OPA1611

post #1356 of 2227
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A pair of OPA627AUs will set me back about $70 so I can swallow that if it's a worthy upgrade over LME49990 or OPA1611

Brown Dog has this for about $60 but it won't fit in the E12DIY.  You need to solder your own on the dual mount blank adapters in the kit.

 

http://cimarrontechnology.com/single-to-dualop-ampadapterpn020302.aspx

post #1357 of 2227
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Originally Posted by Deterministic NL View Post
 

Brown Dog has this for about $60 but it won't fit in the E12DIY.  You need to solder your own on the dual mount blank adapters in the kit.

 

http://cimarrontechnology.com/single-to-dualop-ampadapterpn020302.aspx

 

Yes, I know. I have one more dual adapter in the Fiio kit I think.

post #1358 of 2227
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Yes, I know. I have one more dual adapter in the Fiio kit I think.

Wonder if you can buy more of them from Fiio.  I fouled one of mine up and lifted a trace on it trying to reposition one of the chips.   I only have one left as well.  Sure would like to buy a couple more blanks or trade.

post #1359 of 2227
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Originally Posted by Deterministic NL View Post
 

Wonder if you can buy more of them from Fiio.  I fouled one of mine up and lifted a trace on it trying to reposition one of the chips.   I only have one left as well.  Sure would like to buy a couple more blanks or trade.

 

+1 to getting more somehow!

post #1360 of 2227
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+1 to getting more somehow!

I just emailed their support department and asked.  If I get a positive response I'll post back here.

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Cool. Thanks!

post #1362 of 2227

Yes, you can buy the blank adapter from them. I don't know the price though.

post #1363 of 2227
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What do you prefer about it to the MUSES02? The MUSES02 will cost me $136 shipped from Mouser so I'd much prefer the 627s if they suit my tastes!

Both are very good, but they offer different things.

I find MUSES02 is more intimate and warm. Very musical and lush. Seduces you with the sound. But can seem slightly closed in. Bass impact and tightness could be better. I don't feel bass lines are as propulsive as they could be. More of a focus on tones and textures rather than rhythm and pace. But a lovely sound. Sometimes I feel the weakness in bass and rhythm hinders my enjoyment of the music on certain tracks. But overall one of the best chips I've tried.

OPA627, on the other hand takes a step back, perspective-wise. OPA 627 sounds more open and spacious. It just as musically engaging but not as lush. It is still, however, on the slightly warm side. Bass is there with good pace and quantity. Really drives the music rhythmically. And bass dynamics are very good. I was sometimes surprised when a sudden percussion hit came up. Balance of sound is good, and music has a certain "rightness" to it. Perhaps a better all arounder than the MUSES02.

At least that's how it sounds to me.

IMO, they are on par with each other In terms of SQ. When I swapped from OPA627 to MUSES02 for the first time, I was expecting to be totally blown away. I wasn't. I found that it was more of a sidegrade instead of an upgrade or downgrade. I feel that they are on the same tier with each other as far as musical perfomance.

I know MUSES can be very expensive to acquire for a lot of folks. My advice is if you want to try a chip on the same level of the MUSES but don't want to shell out the big bucks right away, try the OPA627. It's a great chip in its own right and should be on top of your upgrade list.
post #1364 of 2227
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Originally Posted by K.T. View Post


Both are very good, but they offer different things.

I find MUSES02 is more intimate and warm. Very musical and lush. Seduces you with the sound. But can seem slightly closed in. Bass impact and tightness could be better. I don't feel bass lines are as propulsive as they could be. More of a focus on tones and textures rather than rhythm and pace. But a lovely sound. Sometimes I feel the weakness in bass and rhythm hinders my enjoyment of the music on certain tracks. But overall one of the best chips I've tried.

OPA627, on the other hand takes a step back, perspective-wise. OPA 627 sounds more open and spacious. It just as musically engaging but not as lush. It is still, however, on the slightly warm side. Bass is there with good pace and quantity. Really drives the music rhythmically. And bass dynamics are very good. I was sometimes surprised when a sudden percussion hit came up. Balance of sound is good, and music has a certain "rightness" to it. Perhaps a better all arounder than the MUSES02.

At least that's how it sounds to me.

IMO, they are on par with each other In terms of SQ. When I swapped from OPA627 to MUSES02 for the first time, I was expecting to be totally blown away. I wasn't. I found that it was more of a sidegrade instead of an upgrade or downgrade. I feel that they are on the same tier with each other as far as musical perfomance.

I know MUSES can be very expensive to acquire for a lot of folks. My advice is if you want to try a chip on the same level of the MUSES but don't want to shell out the big bucks right away, try the OPA627. It's a great chip in its own right and should be on top of your upgrade list.

 

I have the same feeling as well. 

 

Even comparing both with MUSES01 I would say its a sidegrade. I don't know how it would sound on thousand dollar system, but I can clearly say on the E12DIY they sound pretty much the same.

post #1365 of 2227
Did anyone try the OPA637?
It's supposed to be even better.
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