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Is the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 really the best headphone all over the world?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Hi!

 

Okay so i finally decided after a pretty long time that i make an account here and ask that, what just simply can't let me live my life.. cuz its just stuck in my head, i must know!

 

So, as you type "top best" / "best" / "top"/ headphones 2010 - 2011 - 2012 and even for this year 2013, so everywhere the #1 headphone you can buy (the best) is the Audio-Technica ATH-M50.

 

Or just search for the best headphones on YouTube, and you find a lot people whos says the ATH-M50's is the best. (like the famous Marques Brownle, HeadphoneReviewHQ and so on..)

 

Now, the ATH-M50 cost around 160$ everywhere, and in my opinion the more expensive, is the more better (except overpriced products which is expensive because of the name like Beats Pro, but i actually never tried them so if you can, please tell something about them).

 

And theres a couple of them which is above $160 and in the top lists, just like the following ones:

 

AKG K 701 White

Sennheiser Momentum

Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro (which i heard its very very good, please tell something about them, lot people comparing it to M50)

Sennheiser HD 518 (which is under the cost of the M50 but some people still comparing it to M50)

V-Moda Crossfade M-100

Sony MDR1R (i know the MDR-1R is a pretty famous name because of the bass, but what if we cut the bass to the M50's bass level and just focus on the other sounds?)

 

And a lot more..like the Bose Quiet Comfort 15 which i just absolute can't understand why is it in the "best ones", at least as i tried it for like 20 minutes, it didnt won my taste..true i used it on Ipad, instead of some amp or anything, but they are just still tottaly mean to me..and the treble is just way too high.. there was no amp or anything so i just tried them on Ipad anyway.

 

Does anyone heard about HiFiMAN HE-400? Cost almost 400$

 

Other fact about the Sennheiser Momentum: "Sennheiser, a leading manufacturer of studio and stage microphones, created a limited number of what have been called the best headphones in the world" ("in the world", so hows the M50 the #1? maybe cuz the low price?)

 

Ultrasone Edition 8 S-Logic Plus Natural Surround Sound Professional Headphone | Cost $1,499.00 |

 

"Another pair of expensive headphones, the ULTRASONE Edition 9 Limited Edition S-Logic Natural Surround Sound Headphones, come with some cool features. The S-Logic natural surround sound takes the sound out of the headphones and into the room around you for a three-dimensional sound similar to a live concert. Less stress is put on your eardrums because pressure is decreases by up to 40% (3-4dB), allegedly reducing the risk of hearing damage.

expensive headphones

Ultrasone’s expensive headphones also utilize ULE technology with an MU metal shield that reduces radiation by up to 98%. . The ULTRASONE Edition 9 Limited Edition S-Logic Natural Surround Sound Headphones are certainly a luxury to be had by the most discriminating audiophile. At a retail price of $1499.00, they’d better sound good."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Ultrasone Edition source)

 

 

And, it's still not over:

Sennheiser HD 700 for almost a thousand dollar.

 

And the most expensive and the best (to me at least, cuz the price..probably you already noticed too that crap products are usually cheap, and expensive are usually better, and which is cost more than a thousand...must be good!):

Sennheiser HD800 Over-Ear Circum-Aural Dynamic Premiere Headphone. For more than a thousand dollar. $1,499.95

 

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Back to the ATH-M50's which is a "Monitor Headphone" costs around 160$ around ..well..almost everywhere, to be very honest $140-199.
 
Lot YouTubers, lot famous and popular websites says that, the ATH-M50 are the best, like:
 
What top industry professionals are saying about the ATH-M50:
 
"A-T has raised the bar once again, this time with the new M50 headphones, and this time they've raised it quite a bit. Already these phones are by far the favorite in our studio."

.:  George Massenburg — GRAMMY®-winning engineer & producer  :.

 

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“I tried these phones on a few major artists and they all said, ‘WOW these are great.’ We use these phones on all our vocalists.”

.:  Al Schmitt — GRAMMY®-winning recording engineer and producer  :.

 

"The M50's seem to be winning hands-down. Everyone that's heard them won't give them back."

.:  Tom Schlum — Chief Engineer | Capitol Studios  :.

 

 

“I am listening to a track right now on the plane through the ATH-M50's. Pretty amazing, the bass depth, even with the ambient noise of a 737 jet engine. Bodes well for recording drums and bass in a one-room studio.”

.: Ian Moore — Singer/songwriter :.

 

And so on..

 

Top industry professionals opinions source

 

So why exactly is the Audio-Technica ATH-M50's is the #1 headphone?

 

I also heard that the M50's treble are pretty high, i would like to hear something about it.

 

 

Thanks you for spend the time to read this, hope you guys liked the thread, i personally spend a lot time to write this so i hope you can give me a honest and true answer reply, how you call so. And don't forget i made this thread only because its stuck in my head in a while, which headphone is the best, so it was not a commercial or a informative review neither, it is still a question, is the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 really the best?

 

Don't forget to comment!

Thanks, later.

 

Mr. Kroenig,


Edited by Mr Kroenig - 8/5/13 at 3:59am
post #2 of 24
Welcome! Looks like you have done about 30% of the research about headphones you need to do.

Search this site, read reviews, look for the 50 best full sized headphones thread.
post #3 of 24
If you're referring to the ranking system, I think it's just showing the M50 as being #1 because it's the most discussed model on here.

I have owned the M50 (and I still have access to my dad's pair), and I can hardly call it "the #1" especially considering my ATH-ES10 and ATH-W1000X decimate it in every way possible.
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 

I know it depends on the style and genre of music you listen to, to which one you buy, so

 

I most the time listen to rap/hip-hop music, but when in the mood i also listen to classical music, so im pretty omnivorous when its comes to music.

I can't really mention the artists i mostly like to listen to, i can but my taste of music always change, and it also depends on the mood what i listen to. But, to be more detailed, i don't really listen to any douchbag type of music like Lil wayne and the others, if its comes to rap i suggest Jay-z's new album Magna Carta... Holy Grail , Kanye West Yeezus, J.Cole etc. I also like musics like THE BOTS "Northern Lights. Rock? Not really, only just a very few of them. Dubstep? Never really intrested me..Dance/Electro/Techno/Trance, well sometimes,yes.

 

Also thanks the welcoming

 

Kroenig


Edited by Mr Kroenig - 7/30/13 at 2:44am
post #5 of 24

If by best ever you mean out of $80-120 price range, of closed over ear headphones. 

 

Sure, probably they are. 

post #6 of 24

Best is subjective - and you haven't listed any criteria for comparison.  Some examples you might consider when asking yourself:

 

- best for xxx price?

- best for portability?

- best for isolation?

- best for driveability (no amp)?

- best for genre specific?

- best for enjoyment vs best for mastering/mixing?

- best for value (features vs price)?

- best for realism (tone/timbre)?

- best for sonic ability?

- best bass?

- best mids?

- best highs?

- best sound stage?

- best imaging?

 

I could go on - but above should be enough to realise that the question you're asking is not able to be answered unless you narrow the field a little, and unless you provide what you are specifically looking for in a headphone.  Budget is going to be the first indicator you need to look at.

 

In answer to your original question - is the M50 the best of all time - then no, it's not, it's not even close.

 

Here's a couple of links for you to add to your own research:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/548578/m50s-overrated

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13

 

The comparison of the flagships is worth reading.  It's one man's subjective view - but it's a good guide.  BTW - the M50 does not make that list.  Should give you a clue as to your original question.

 

Finally ..... this:

 

Quote:
Thanks no, i don't have the time for that, if i would have the time for that long research then why i would make this thread sir?

 

is not really going to inspire too much assistance here.  You'll get plenty of help if you have a specific need - but asking a generic question with no criteria, and then saying you don't have the time to do the research ...... well let's just say the answers you're likely to get will be probably as helpful as the question you posed wink.gif


Edited by Brooko - 7/29/13 at 5:15pm
post #7 of 24

Heya,

 

The M50 is heralded so greatly in the same manner that Morton is the name on the salt you probably buy.

 

I was actually quite surprised to see so much hype and talk about such an average headphone on a site dedicated to what should be high fidelity.

 

It definitely doesn't belong in any thread involving the word "best", especially next to actual hi-fi headphones.

 

I own the M50.

 

Very best,

post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 

None of you actually answered the question but let's try it again..

 

What would you say if you would need to compare the ATH-M50's to the other headphones that i mentioned:.

 

 

Quote:

AKG K 701 White

Sennheiser Momentum

Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro (which i heard its very very good, please tell something about them, lot people comparing it to M50)

Sennheiser HD 518 (which is under the cost of the M50 but some people still comparing it to M50)

V-Moda Crossfade M-100 (White Silver)

Sony MDR1R (i know the MDR-1R is a pretty famous name because of the bass, but what if we cut the bass to the M50's bass level and just focus on the other sounds?)

 

 

Quote:
Bose Quiet Comfort 15 which i just absolute can't understand why is it in the "best ones",

 

 

 

 

Quote:

Sennheiser HD800 Over-Ear Circum-Aural Dynamic Premiere Headphone. For more than a thousand dollar. $1,499.95

Good deep bass, i don't really like is treble are goes too high, i prefer massive sounding with good deep lows. I dont care the cost i will have it with time if its too expensive, i can wait.

I will use it on probably Iphone or Ipad etc. But i also have an amp with my comp, not for mixing or djing only for listen music, the one i looking for is that "mind-blowing" sounding one which have a tipical "massive" sounding with good deep lows as i already mentioned, and made for people who like "this-new-age rap musics" like Future, Jayz, Kanye etc, iam pretty sure the one i looking for is the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro maybe? But i just really don't know! cuz i never tried them. And im also curious that the ATH is so very popular and in a lot community its labeled as the "best" headphone and the "#1 headphone" etc. I would like to know, that the M50's cost only $160 while theres the Sennheiser HD800 and the Ultrasone Edition 8 S-Logic Plus Natural Surround Sound Professional Headphone which is above a thousand dollar. So im pretty sure they are much better? Hm.. They worth the money? What's for they actually made for? They are for djing or mixing or just for just simply listen the music? Also i dont know why they cost that ammount of money. What they are actually really made for? So if any of you own these headphones, leave some review in the comments below, which one is like what.

 

And please, compare them to the Audio-Technica ATH-M50!

 

Thanks, Kroenig

 

 Problems with my english? I from Hungary, sorry, i try my best! =)


Edited by Mr Kroenig - 8/2/13 at 2:59am
post #9 of 24
Dude... Why don't you just buy the stupid headphones and TRY THEM OUT? Nobody can help you on the internet because nobody has your ears. You aren't getting the response you want because you aren't listening. All headphones are made for music listening. A "DJ" headphone is usually of the closed back variant. Still, it is also made for headphone listening.

So, you are wanting a headphone with low and massive bass. No treble or recessed treble? That is not something anybody on this site enjoys or can recommend. It is not "high fidelity" listening.

A "good headphone" here on this site is one that has balanced amounts of bass, mids and treble. All the same volume. Some prefer more bass (bass heavy) and some prefer more highs (Treble heavy, revealing, analytical) and some prefer "mid-centric", meaning recessed bass and treble. This is all only small variants.

The 50 is "the best headphone FOR THE PRICE". High priced headphones are not about heavy massive bass. Other things are more important: Clarity, soundstage, instrument seperation, flat sound signature, no echos, no "humps" in the frequency curve that make some parts of music louder than others.

This is why people don't like beats on this site: Massive amounts of muddy, undefined flabby bass like a fat girl jumping up and down on a wood floor, with only a big "hump" in the 80Hz area. No clarity, no treble, and so on.

You will not like the Audio Technica, and you will also not like the Beyer COPS. Both have nice treble. You will not like all the others you posted because they all have a pretty balanced sound. You will hate the Sennheiser 800, because it is ultra treble, no bass. The only thing you can do, is either:

-buy crappy headphones like beats that HAVE the sound signature you are looking for: big boomy massive bass, not much mids or highs.
-buy good headphones and use you phone/media player equalizer to remove the treble
-Realize that you are wrong about the sound you are looking for, and learn about good sound to appreciate good headphones.


Cliff notes: OP wants a beats type sound signature, low impedance headphone.
Edited by ev13wt - 7/30/13 at 6:50am
post #10 of 24
Jay-Z created Roc-A-Fella Records as their own independent label in 1995... His first big hit was in 1998. Hardly "new age rap music". Pretty old music.


Stop being a ****** and do some research before you post stupid things on the internet. wink.gif
post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Jay-Z created Roc-A-Fella Records as their own independent label in 1995... His first big hit was in 1998. Hardly "new age rap music". Pretty old music.


Stop being a ******** and do some research before you post stupid things on the internet. wink.gif

I'm sorry?

Don't know who talked about the Roc-A-Fella Records hm...i talked about the Magna Carta... Holy Grail. Which is came out this year and this "old music" (jayz) is the most succesful rapper alive today with kanye soo.."Stop being a ******** and do some research before you post stupid things on the internet. wink.gif" As you said so, Sir.

 

Btw the my question still not answered.


Edited by Mr Kroenig - 7/30/13 at 7:02am
post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 

And i also don't know what are you talking about so mad the trebles. Do i said any word of them?

All i said about the treble, sir, is:

 

Quote:
i don't really like is treble are goes too high

So don't get mad just i don't like is something sounds like that ear tearing "squeaky" sounding. And prefering more bassful clean and natural sounding. Anyway, i know your type, just go out more often, workout, and live your life you fat mad ****. Np.


Edited by Mr Kroenig - 7/30/13 at 11:37am
post #13 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Kroenig View Post

Btw the my question still not answered.

Yes it is. Try reading slower.
post #14 of 24

OP, re-read this, especially the parts in bold:

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Best is subjective - and you haven't listed any criteria for comparison.  Some examples you might consider when asking yourself:

 

- best for xxx price?

- best for portability?

- best for isolation?

- best for driveability (no amp)?

- best for genre specific?

- best for enjoyment vs best for mastering/mixing?

- best for value (features vs price)?

- best for realism (tone/timbre)?

- best for sonic ability?

- best bass?

- best mids?

- best highs?

- best sound stage?

- best imaging?

 

I could go on - but above should be enough to realise that the question you're asking is not able to be answered unless you narrow the field a little, and unless you provide what you are specifically looking for in a headphone.  Budget is going to be the first indicator you need to look at.

 

In answer to your original question - is the M50 the best of all time - then no, it's not, it's not even close.

 

Here's a couple of links for you to add to your own research:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/548578/m50s-overrated

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13

 

The comparison of the flagships is worth reading.  It's one man's subjective view - but it's a good guide.  BTW - the M50 does not make that list.  Should give you a clue as to your original question.

 

Finally ..... this:

 

Quote:

Thanks no, i don't have the time for that, if i would have the time for that long research then why i would make this thread sir?

 

is not really going to inspire too much assistance here.  You'll get plenty of help if you have a specific need - but asking a generic question with no criteria, and then saying you don't have the time to do the research ...... well let's just say the answers you're likely to get will be probably as helpful as the question you posed wink.gif

post #15 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by mvrk10256 View Post

If by best ever you mean out of $80-120 price range, of closed over ear headphones. 

 

Sure, probably they are. 

You surely have never heard the zx700's or the Uptown for that matter :)

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