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post #61 of 268
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Originally Posted by iSennheiser View Post

The sound of the original Momentum and the small brother is totally different. I think if you are using Westone 4 , then you will not like the on-ear momentum as it is bass elevated( way more than Beats) and the Over-Ear Momentum is kind of warmer sounding and balanced with Bass emphasize but not too much.

 

I agree. Way too much bass and mid honk. Now that we have a consistent fit, I thought the sound would be more balanced but no. These SUCK!! What on earth was Sennheiser thinking? confused.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #62 of 268

Okay, so I posted my full review:

 

 

Here are some additional notes to go along with the review.

 

I think the sticking point for a lot of people is going to be the bass. I did not observe any changes in the bass with burn in. If anything, I kind of liked the On-Ear less the more I compared it with other headphones in its class. (V-Moda M80, Sennheiser Amperior, even the lowly 'solid bass' WS55X). The bass response kicks in very strongly. On some tracks, it is fun and exciting. On other tracks it sounds like someone added the sound of listening to a car stereo from outside the car - a low drone that clouds up the music.

 

In reference to the above comments in the thread, I do not think that Sennheiser is producing inconsistent batches of these headphones. This is Sennheiser we are talking about, not a boutique audio company. But I do think that the bass is better or worse depending on what kind of music you listen to.

 

On tracks where bass is an 'effect' - mostly with machine drums or synths in more 'dancey' music, I think the On-Ear's bass is quite welcome and fun. On tracks where the bass is just meant to be another instrument in the mix, it sounds fairly unbalanced. Which kinds of tracks where the bass is what is in the end a subjective thing.

 

For instance, on this track:

 

 

The synth drum is meant to give the music an insistent, itchy quality. On the Amperior and the M80, it makes its presence felt without drawing too much attention. Listening to this on the On-Ear, the drum really starts to kick you in the ears. It's your call if that is a thing you like. Personally I think it is too extreme. 

 

This isn't to say that the Momentum On-Ear is a terrible headphone. I think it does its chosen signature quite well and sure as heck sounds better than on-ear headphones like the UE4000 or Skullcandy Navigator. If you want a really strong V out of your headphones, this is probably going to make you happy. I personally could not really recommend anyone buy this headphone without listening to it, but if you love the design (and it is truly a nice, well thought out design) or you are buying it for someone who is not going to spend time comparing against other great headphones in this category - DT1350, Sennheiser Amperior, V-Moda M80, Audio Technica ES700 - I can't imagine they would be devastated.

 

For everyone who was kind of hoping for cheaper mini-Momentums in terms of sound, these aren't the on-ears you're looking for.

post #63 of 268
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Yeah, you're probably right.... I don't listen to bassy music much and that which I do is quite controlled.

Just for the heck of it, I A/B'd that track you posted with my Amperiors and I found the bass too elevated on them too. But the vocals were definitely more recessed on the on-ears. I agree that they are quite v-shaped. I certainly don't hear any midrange honk as the previous post wrote though.

I recently listened to my Sony's CX300 earbuds which I totally disliked for their heavy bass in comparison to my IEMs. And come to think of it, I feel Sennheiser is targeting these at the CX300 owner.

But returning to my impressions, I quite like these on-ears for casual listening. To each his own I guess.
post #64 of 268
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

This isn't to say that the Momentum On-Ear is a terrible headphone. I think it does its chosen signature quite well and sure as heck sounds better than on-ear headphones like the UE4000 or Skullcandy Navigator. If you want a really strong V out of your headphones, this is probably going to make you happy. I personally could not really recommend anyone buy this headphone without listening to it, but if you love the design (and it is truly a nice, well thought out design) or you are buying it for someone who is not going to spend time comparing against other great headphones in this category - DT1350, Sennheiser Amperior, V-Moda M80, Audio Technica ES700 - I can't imagine they would be devastated.

 

For everyone who was kind of hoping for cheaper mini-Momentums in terms of sound, these aren't the on-ears you're looking for.

 

Yup. I was hoping for a better-fitting Momentum. Got the fit but the sound is garbage. Just run pink noise through them and you hear three points of emphasis....low thump, honky, thin, pinched midrange and hissy top. Sure, the sound is open and exciting, but terribly colored and painfully bright. Too bad because the On-Ears is nice looking, light and comfortable.

post #65 of 268

Do these cans suck? No, I've listened to far worse headphones. Their fit and finish is top-class, they're comfortable (for a pair of on-ears), unfortunately their sonic signature just aren't deserving of the Momentum association.

post #66 of 268
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Do these cans suck? No, I've listened to far worse headphones. Their fit and finish is top-class, they're comfortable (for a pair of on-ears), unfortunately their sonic signature just aren't deserving of the Momentum association.

 

Yes, the Momentum tag is very misleading indeed.

 

Imagine a "mini-Orpheus" that sounded like a duck?

post #67 of 268
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Gee Beagle, I wish someone as honest as you and who disliked the DT-1350s as much as you dislike these had posted on their thread how much they sucked! Could have saved me several hundred $$$! All the glowing reports I read about them caused me to choose them ahead of HD25s. I found the 1350s too forward in the mids and the seal was so bad I couldn't hear any bass unless I pushed the already too clampy earpads onto my ears. I tried to like them and thinking I must be missing something I even wasted another $50 on replacement earpads only to find they didn't change a thing! To me it is the Beyers that SUCK.

At the end of the day, everyone's hearing and preferences are different. I suggest readers audition any headphone and let your own ears be the judge.
post #68 of 268

Think of the On-Ears as DT1350 with excess bass and very bright. I much prefer the 1350, although they both share that quacky, thin midrange.

 

Yes, HD25's with the fit and non-vice-grip clamp of the Momentum On Ears...that would be wonderful.

post #69 of 268
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Yes, HD25's with the fit and non-vice-grip clamp of the Momentum On Ears...that would be wonderful.

 

I am endlessly surprised, given that the Amperior was discontinued, that Sennheiser did not basically just engineer exactly what you said: a HD25 with a Momentum headband.

post #70 of 268

Yes In my opinions it is 3x bassier than Beats Studio( I compared it side by side dude) but as expected from Sennheiser that the level of clarity is satisfying despite the boomy boosted bass. I have ever heard a headphone with a powerful genuine bass impact as this on-ear momentum. I don't know if you might complain about the overwhelming bass.

post #71 of 268

The Momentum On-Ear stand as close as V-Moda M-80 in terms of sound quality. Again, let me say, these are Basshead headphones, the Bass impact is more than what you can imagine, if you hate Beats, then don't even touch this, but let me assure you the clarity is still good as expected from Sennheiser despite the overwhelming hip Hop Bass.

post #72 of 268
a_recording,
Thx for the videos. If you had your choice between the two (Amperior or Momentum). Which would you choose or anyone else who has had some time to listen to both.
Edited by TunnelVision - 8/15/13 at 12:04pm
post #73 of 268

I can tell you that I have been listening to them since then and my opinion hasn't really changed. Burn in or not, no one has ever claimed that burn in dramatically changes the basic signature of a headphone.

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post #74 of 268
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Originally Posted by TunnelVision View Post

a_recording,
Thx for the videos. If you had your choice between the two (Amperior or Momentum). Which would you choose or anyone else who has had some time to listen to both.

 

The Momentum is easygoing and comfortable. I'd choose that if you just wanted a can that you could relax with and you don't listen to a great deal of metal or rock, or other aggressively fast genres. The Amperior is what I would go for if you wanted something more aggressive and up front. It works better with faster music. (The Momentum is no slouch, the Amperior is just better in this regard because it sounds tighter and cleaner). It's less comfortable but if you can get it on a clearance price like I did it's a steal!

post #75 of 268

I did a listening comparison with the MartinLogan Mikros 90 and the KEF M500 and the On-Ears sounded pretty bad. Yet the On-Ears boosted bass is actually rather tight and fast, and not the "one-note" variety....and the treble is not harsh. Main problem is that they are bookends for a hideously pinched, honky midrange, and the lower midrange is scooped and robs music of it's soul.

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