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post #1 of 14
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I am looking for an amp/DAC and I have a budget of about, hmm. Lets just say.. $1000 would be a very nice budget, but I can definately go over, if worth it. At $1000 we have some good choices, like the WA7 and Lyr/Bifrost. But hey, go over by all means. 

 

I'm looking for a amp/DAC that will work well with the Paradox by LFF, Sennheiser HD650, and the Beyerdynamic DT880 600. Thanks guys! 

post #2 of 14

We can assume it's going to be plugged into a PC or Mac or gaming console or audio player?

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We can assume it's going to be plugged into a PC or Mac or gaming console or audio player?

PC.

post #4 of 14

LKS Audio ES9018 http://www.ebay.com/itm/LKS-Audio-ES9018-two-parallel-stereo-HiFi-Decoder-New-version-/261216011535

 

iBasso PB2 http://ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=70

 

 

The ES9018 DAC chips rival (PCM1704) is highly recommended as well.

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LKS Audio ES9018 http://www.ebay.com/itm/LKS-Audio-ES9018-two-parallel-stereo-HiFi-Decoder-New-version-/261216011535

 

iBasso PB2 http://ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=70

 

 

The ES9018 DAC chips rival (PCM1704) is highly recommended as well.

I'm not looking for portable.

post #6 of 14

What about a headamp and a separate Dac? what about a Burson? (i saw you are part of their program)

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What about a headamp and a separate Dac? what about a Burson? (i saw you are part of their program)

A little too big for my desk. I need a small footprint, something like the WA7.

post #8 of 14

just get Wa7 then its good.

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just get Wa7 then its good.

With HD800 also?

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With HD800 also?

 

not sure. should be though, i know its good for audeze and beyer. 

 

Frank I liked it with HD 800 http://dagogo.com/woo-audio-wa7-fireflies-dac-headphone-amplifier-review

 

its a good all rounder kinda amp like the WA6-SE.

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With HD800 also?

 

not sure. should be though, i know its good for audeze and beyer. 

 

Frank I liked it with HD 800 http://dagogo.com/woo-audio-wa7-fireflies-dac-headphone-amplifier-review

 

its a good all rounder kinda amp like the WA6-SE.

Thanks for the review!

post #12 of 14

I can vouch for WA7 + DT880 synergy out of personal experience (but limited experience with headphone amps). I'd also advise to get the EH Gold Pin tubes.

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

I am looking for an amp/DAC and I have a budget of about, hmm. Lets just say.. $1000 would be a very nice budget, but I can definately go over, if worth it. At $1000 we have some good choices, like the WA7 and Lyr/Bifrost. But hey, go over by all means. 

 

I'm looking for a amp/DAC that will work well with the Paradox by LFF, Sennheiser HD650, and the Beyerdynamic DT880 600. Thanks guys! 


By specifying that you want the amplifier to work well with dynamic driver DT800-600 (600 Ohm), HD650 (333Ohm), and HD800 (430 Ohm), and also with the orthodynamic driver Fostex T50rp-based LFF Paradox (54Ohm).

 

This is a wide range of amplification requirements. The high impedance dynamics will need voltage swing while the Paradox will need current. So your objective is to find an amplifier that can pack a wallop with voltage when necessary, but still be able to pump a lot of current required for the lower impedance orthos.

 

Furthermore, because the orthos have low impedance compared to the dynamic headphones you mentioned, you will need an amplifier that has sufficiently low output impedance so that the bass frequencies are properly damped and don't sound loose and flabby.

 

The WA-7 doesn't specifier it's output impedance (although it does claim to work with headphones down to 6 ohms? and it says it's output transformer coupled). You may want to see how other people like current hungry headphones with the WA7.

 

The Schiit Lyr will certainly have enough oomph for all those headphones, but it does have a higher noise floor than other schiit amps like the Asgard and the Mjolnir (Both of which would work with what you've got, assuming you'd retro-fit all your 'phones with balanced cables for the Mjolnir). You may want to avoid amps like the Valhalla because it weaker in it's ability to supply current (although it should work well with the high impedance dynamics).

 

 

If you really don't like your ODAC and feel the need to upgrade, then getting a stand alone DAC that is a class above the ODAC will each a big chunck of your budget (I'm looking at the $519 Bifrost Uber).

 

Another all-in-one solution that would be just above your stated budget would be the USB Benchmark DAC1. It has extremely low output impedance on it's headphone out. You could ask for DAC1 owners opinoins on the headphone pairings.

 

 

Anyways, hope this helps you on your search.

 

Cheers


Edited by ab initio - 7/28/13 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

I am looking for an amp/DAC and I have a budget of about, hmm. Lets just say.. $1000 would be a very nice budget, but I can definately go over, if worth it. At $1000 we have some good choices, like the WA7 and Lyr/Bifrost. But hey, go over by all means. 

 

I'm looking for a amp/DAC that will work well with the Paradox by LFF, Sennheiser HD650, and the Beyerdynamic DT880 600. Thanks guys! 


By specifying that you want the amplifier to work well with dynamic driver DT800-600 (600 Ohm), HD650 (333Ohm), and HD800 (430 Ohm), and also with the orthodynamic driver Fostex T50rp-based LFF Paradox (54Ohm).

 

This is a wide range of amplification requirements. The high impedance dynamics will need voltage swing while the Paradox will need current. So your objective is to find an amplifier that can pack a wallop with voltage when necessary, but still be able to pump a lot of current required for the lower impedance orthos.

 

Furthermore, because the orthos have low impedance compared to the dynamic headphones you mentioned, you will need an amplifier that has sufficiently low output impedance so that the bass frequencies are properly damped and don't sound loose and flabby.

 

The WA-7 doesn't specifier it's output impedance (although it does claim to work with headphones down to 6 ohms? and it says it's output transformer coupled). You may want to see how other people like current hungry headphones with the WA7.

 

The Schiit Lyr will certainly have enough oomph for all those headphones, but it does have a higher noise floor than other schiit amps like the Asgard and the Mjolnir (Both of which would work with what you've got, assuming you'd retro-fit all your 'phones with balanced cables for the Mjolnir). You may want to avoid amps like the Valhalla because it weaker in it's ability to supply current (although it should work well with the high impedance dynamics).

 

 

If you really don't like your ODAC and feel the need to upgrade, then getting a stand alone DAC that is a class above the ODAC will each a big chunck of your budget (I'm looking at the $519 Bifrost Uber).

 

Another all-in-one solution that would be just above your stated budget would be the USB Benchmark DAC1. It has extremely low output impedance on it's headphone out. You could ask for DAC1 owners opinoins on the headphone pairings.

 

 

Anyways, hope this helps you on your search.

 

Cheers

People love the WA7 with orthos.

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