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post #691 of 4183
Oops, didn't quote the original post - those tubes/ratings are all using the HD800.
post #692 of 4183

Thank you R Scott. My quest for the suggested tubes begins. I think I'm after the bugle boys first. If anyone has a set that they want to let go please let me know. 

post #693 of 4183
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Thank you R Scott. My quest for the suggested tubes begins. I think I'm after the bugle boys first. If anyone has a set that they want to let go please let me know. 

My pleasure! Good luck with your search!
post #694 of 4183
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Thank you R Scott. My quest for the suggested tubes begins. I think I'm after the bugle boys first. If anyone has a set that they want to let go please let me know. 

while i can't comment specifically with regard to the hd800, i do have a couple the tubes scott suggests ,
i have a pair of the BB's, they are very good , i got them mercedesman

the tesla's are a steal , and they are one of my favorites

post #695 of 4183
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Originally Posted by R Scott Ireland View Post

For the HD800, the best I've heard (again, my ears, my preferences, classical music only) - Siemens & Halske 6922 CCa Grey Plates and Amperex 6922 Pinched Waists. To my ears, these are the pinnacle, 10/10 in my personal ratings, but good luck finding them and kiss your wallet goodbye if you do find them.

Next, I would say that all of the following are superb (9/10 in my system - not in any particular order, except that I am very partial to the USN-CEP's):

Amperex USN-CEP
Telefunken E88CC
Tesla E88CC Gold Pins (excellent bargain)
Valvo E88CC, both Red Label Gold Pin and plain Gold Pin versions (also excellent bargains)
Amperex Bugle Boy 6DJ8 1959 D-Getters

 

I've read about the Amperex PInched Waists, both US and Heerlen, Holland made. And currently, there is a pair of pinched waists on eBay, manufactured in Philip's Eindhoven, Holland, factory, with Mullard paint. Which do you have?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181250769004?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

I have seen Teslas with 32 and 37 on the label, evidently from different factories... Which do you have?

 

And I have seen Valvos manufactured in Heerlen, Holland and in Hamburg, Germany... Which do you have?

 

and thanks! :)

post #696 of 4183
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I've read about the Amperex PInched Waists, both US and Heerlen, Holland made. And currently, there is a pair of pinched waists on eBay, manufactured in Philip's Eindhoven, Holland, factory, with Mullard paint. Which do you have?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181250769004?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

I have seen Teslas with 32 and 37 on the label, evidently from different factories... Which do you have?

 

And I have seen Valvos manufactured in Heerlen, Holland and in Hamburg, Germany... Which do you have?

 

and thanks! :)

 

 

I purchased the Pinched Waists from Brent Jesse.  They are Holland vintage, with Mullard markings (white).

 

The Teslas are marked "32".

 

Not sure about the Valvos.  Will have to inspect them later when I get home and report back.

post #697 of 4183

I have the Amperex Orange Globe "Halos" (1967), the Orange Globe "A Frames" (1970) and the Amperex "Bugle Boy" Large O Getters from 1960 here, and I intend to review them in depth as soon as my university exams are over (in approximately 2 weeks).  At this stage, I would say that ALL are great tubes.  My favourite (at the moment) are the Bugle Boys, but these are early examples (and with tubes - as a gross generalisation - the earlier the better).  They seem to have more depth and detail than the others (the OG 1967 are close), though their bass is a little "puffier" than the others and they don't have as much impact, they also go a little deeper.  The "A Frames" seem a little less detailed, but they are "fun" tubes.  The Orange Globe Halos (1967) seem to straddle the other extremes.  It will probably come down to "tastes", but at this stage, the early "Bugle Boys" are my favourite, by a small amount.

post #698 of 4183
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If you search this thread and the original Lyr thread, you will find that 6N1P do not get much love, so strike off 4 tubes. Other than one private email telling me that the 6N2P sounds terrible in the Lyr, I have found nothing regarding the 6N2P. So you should probably strike off one more tube. The GE 6BZ7 can be purchased very cheaply and it doesn't get much love either, so strike off another tube. The PCC189 / 7ES8 also hasn't gotten much love, so strike off another tube. The PCC85 / 9AQ8 has 9 volt heaters, so this one is questionable, so strike off another tube.

 

So.... let's see.... this leaves the Brimar, Lorenz, JJ, Amperex and Valvo for 200 Euro....  You might want to check eBay for comparable prices and then decide if this is a good deal.... 

I've browsed through old Lyr tube rolling thread and had got an impression that lots of people liked 6N1P especially for making sound livelier, engaging, providing bigger soundstage or even 3D effect. They also seem to be brighter than for example stock 6BZ7 which tells me I should definitely try them with my LCD-2s if I want to make Audeze sound more energetic and less closed-in. 

 

Am I too optimistic about the 6N1Ps properties?


Edited by korzena - 11/5/13 at 7:25am
post #699 of 4183
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Originally Posted by R Scott Ireland View Post
 

 

 

I purchased the Pinched Waists from Brent Jesse.  They are Holland vintage, with Mullard markings (white).

 

The Teslas are marked "32".

 

Not sure about the Valvos.  Will have to inspect them later when I get home and report back.

 

The Valvo Red Labels are clearly marked as Hamburg, Germany.

 

I can't tell on the other tubes (White lettering).  They are marked with an eagle-like symbol that, I believe, indicates that they are approved by the German Govt. for military use; I remember reading about this somewhere, but now I can't find the reference. So . . . not positive about these.

 

To me, their sound performance was equal.

post #700 of 4183

I like the Volvo Red Label, the only thing that bother is the "hiss" in the background.  

The other glass doesn't have that...amplerex, Siemen.

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Looks like real, but Do we have extra cash burn?  :wink:

post #703 of 4183

I bought another pair of NOS CCas at the weekend. £100 ($150us), also on ebay. They might not be as old as these but....OUCH.

post #704 of 4183

I really want to try a pair of Siemens Cca, grey plate holy grail, etc., and experience the 3d holographic soundstage & pure seductive sonic joy that everyone talks about, but I don't trust anyone enough to part with that sort of dough. 

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Originally Posted by dgriffter View Post
 

I really want to try a pair of Siemens Cca, grey plate holy grail, etc., and experience the 3d holographic soundstage & pure seductive sonic joy that everyone talks about, but I don't trust anyone enough to part with that sort of dough. 

 

That price is a bit ridiculous.  I guess the thought is that true NOS - an unused set - is pure unobtainium.

 

I have 2 pair of the CCa's - both purchased within the last 12 months on eBay.  One set was $322; the other $203.

 

Just keep looking and sooner or later you should be able to score a nice set at a reasonable (everything is relative) price.

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