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Hi.  I had a issue with Kevin, so I'm done business with him.  I'll find somewhere else.  Anyways, Steve your tube is doing great!!! the other gold lion, It's not my liking....i need more time with gold lion.

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Sorry to hear about the service with upscale audio. I was going to buy a set of tubes from there but maybe i'll wait. What pair of tubes would you guys recommend for <$100? Right now I am using Orange Globes.

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tehsprayer.

 

get some Voskhod 6n23p, under $100 you'll be happy as puppy.  You can search in Ebay or you can ask rb2013 pm him.

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Hi.  I had a issue with Kevin, so I'm done business with him.  I'll find somewhere else.  Anyways, Steve your tube is doing great!!! the other gold lion, It's not my liking....i need more time with gold lion.
Hi I would very much like to hear your views on the gold lions. And thanks for the heads up on upscale, was thinking about going for the gold lions and telefunken ecc88 platinum from upscale, but now might reconsider. Please take care.
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Hi reddog.

 

My friend loan this to me (steve aka, satwilson).  Thank you steve for loan this to me.

My first impression on gold lion was not my favor.  To my ear, the sounded muffle.  it wasn't clean sound. to me it didn't have whole lot of soundstage.  i'm not trying to give bad review on my friend's tube but it's brief impression.

Maybe, I listened to telefunken e88cc.  That I like!!!  Really crisp clean. ok soundsage, not too big either. pretty detail sound and separation of the instruments were good.  I would compare with my Siemens ccas.

 

Cheers.

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Hi everyone.

 

Today I met Steve aka: satwilson.  He loan me his Telefunken e88cc.  I listened briefly, It's very good tube.  I like this tube.

Now, I'm curious about Telefunken CCa..........anyone has this CCa?  What is you impression on your tube?

Bob and I have talked about the CCAs, either the Siemens or Teles recently on this thread. Generally the CCA's are tighter triode tolerance, lower noise, than generic E88CC,s That being said, the latest E88CC's from Upscale meet most of the CCA standards, or better. Brent Jesse Audio says many E88CCs test better than many CCA's. Basically the CCA'S are "selected" tubes from regular production. Some better, some not as good depending on the age, usage, test#s. Anyone else have any thoughts? Please comment, yeah the CCA's were 'selected" and used as "Broadcast" tubes, that being said, select E88CC's. The CCA's command a much higher price, not usually justified, unless NOS, test and sound better than these NOS Upscales. My 2cents, satwilson

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I have suggestion of tube store in internet.  Some of you might know this but this is just reminder for everyone.  There are many many tube store around.

 

tubeworld

audiotubes

thetubestore

tubedepot

 

you can find more store ebay as well...

 

Thanks

 

cheers

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Bob and I have talked about the CCAs, either the Siemens or Teles recently on this thread. Generally the CCA's are tighter triode tolerance, lower noise, than generic E88CC,s That being said, the latest E88CC's from Upscale meet most of the CCA standards, or better. Brent Jesse Audio says many E88CCs test better than many CCA's. Basically the CCA'S are "selected" tubes from regular production. Some better, some not as good depending on the age, usage, test#s. Anyone else have any thoughts? Please comment, yeah the CCA's were 'selected" and used as "Broadcast" tubes, that being said, select E88CC's. The CCA's command a much higher price, not usually justified, unless NOS, test and sound better than these NOS Upscales. My 2cents, satwilson

Thank you steve!  you saved my money!!!  I was going to order the tele cca, but I'll wait that.....

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Hi I would very much like to hear your views on the gold lions. And thanks for the heads up on upscale, was thinking about going for the gold lions and telefunken ecc88 platinum from upscale, but now might reconsider. Please take care.

First off, buy some Teles from Upscale, Gold or Plats sound awesome, hard to tell a diff, I own both. As regards the GL's, a very detailed tube, very powerful, not as smooth/warm as the Teles, but better IMHO than most NOS Amperex/Mullards. Keep in mind I like detailed, balanced, tubes, not necessarily warm. Yeah, I like the Ruskys also. The 74,75 Reflektors, SWGP's are awesome, hard to choose between them and the Teles. Good News, you can buy the Teles, the HG Ruskies, very very hard to come by. The GL's have the best bass I have heard yet, big, tight, better than the Teles, HG's. I have the GL'S from Cryoset, on loan to GMahler. Yeah, Teles and GL's, you will be very happy.

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Hi.  I had a issue with Kevin, so I'm done business with him.  I'll find somewhere else.  Anyways, Steve your tube is doing great!!! the other gold lion, It's not my liking....i need more time with gold lion.

Yeah, Kevin seems to think he is THE TUBE GUY. Many of us on this forum know as much or more than he does. Anyway, you are spoiled with your Ref, HG's, and I agree, the GL's do not  compare. But......as you know, the Ref HG's are very hard to come by. As an upgrade to the stock GE's the GL's are great IMHO, and the Teles, right up there with AWESOME. 

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First off, buy some Teles from Upscale, Gold or Plats sound awesome, hard to tell a diff, I own both. As regards the GL's, a very detailed tube, very powerful, not as smooth/warm as the Teles, but better IMHO than most NOS Amperex/Mullards. Keep in mind I like detailed, balanced, tubes, not necessarily warm. Yeah, I like the Ruskys also. The 74,75 Reflektors, SWGP's are awesome, hard to choose between them and the Teles. Good News, you can buy the Teles, the HG Ruskies, very very hard to come by. The GL's have the best bass I have heard yet, big, tight, better than the Teles, HG's. I have the GL'S from Cryoset, on loan to GMahler. Yeah, Teles and GL's, you will be very happy.
Hey Pattinson:
Thanks for the advice, I really did not know there was not much difference between gold and platinum. I think I will now get the teles gold from upscale. I will most likely try the GL's a try as well, but on a later date.
Thanks for your time
Andy "Reddog"Jones.
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Originally Posted by tehsprayer View Post
 

Sorry to hear about the service with upscale audio. I was going to buy a set of tubes from there but maybe i'll wait. What pair of tubes would you guys recommend for <$100? Right now I am using Orange Globes.

 

Tesla E88CCs from the 1960s shouldn't be underestimated.  They're not quite at Telefunken or Siemens level (and maybe not some of the Amperex - and offshoots - but I haven't heard those), but then they don't cost nearly as much.  I'm happy with my 1964s and 1968s.  They're readily available, but do your research if you're buying from eBay (kind of a DUUUUHHHHH statement, but it bears repeating).

 

And yeah, Voskhod Rockets for under $100 are definitely a good deal.

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Hey Pattinson:
Thanks for the advice, I really did not know there was not much difference between gold and platinum. I think I will now get the teles gold from upscale. I will most likely try the GL's a try as well, but on a later date.
Thanks for your time
Andy "Reddog"Jones.

reddog, your welcome,

  I may decide to sell my spare pair of Gold Teles. Let me know if you have any interest? You can PM me, satwilson


Edited by satwilson - 7/19/14 at 7:37am
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Sad day, my Siemens CCa 60 died on me (one tube)....Sometimes I hate this hobby. can't keep it alive forever...

post #2520 of 4181
Thinking of the positive, it may be time to try different tubes 😉
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