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post #1861 of 3346
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Originally Posted by herbie12389 View Post

I've been dying to hear one of these. Can someone please describe the sound for me?
You can check out my review on these on post #8596 on the old thread.
post #1862 of 3346
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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post

I have to annouce kudos to 2 excellent sellers on ebay. 1st many thanks to Mike - goes by pig_on_the_wing. Found me two awesome '75s! One the long sought after '75 Reflector with the Single Wire Getter Post and Silver Shield. Tested perfect like NOS. Excellent packing and only a week from the UK. Even included a NOS pair of1980 to boot.
Many thanks Mike!

The other seller is valery_b from the Ukraine. Excellent packing, tubes as pictured. Tested NOS. A beautiful '74 SWGP and a common '82. It was the '74 I was after, next to the '75s these early '70s SWGP Voskhods are excellent!

Congrates!! 

post #1863 of 3346
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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post


Ok the deal with this seller - it's a 4 seperate lot in one ad setup. He shows 4 seperate pictures. Now it's hard to tell from each picture what each tube date is - as he has them turned around facing backward. The 1st pic shows what looks like a '83, '76, and '86 can't tell the other. But since he has sold 3 of the lots you don't know what you're going to get sent to you.

It's very important to try and get at least a year matching pair with the same shield color and construction ( wire vs plate getter post). Mismatched pairs muddy the sound quaility - the focus, detail, clarity & transparency. It will also degrade the soundstage. Same goes for section matching in each tube and balance between the tubes in the pair.

I would ask him, what exactly is he sending you! Get a picture with the date codes facing forward, and put it up here. I'll try and get a reading for you. If you don't mention anything to him - it will likely be a mismatched set.

Good luck!

 

I got a response regarding these tubes:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N23P-E88CC-ECC88-6DJ8-Matched-Selected-Quad-Voskhod-Rocket-NOS-Strong-/181364001328

 

Hi there!
Sorry for late answer!
So all tubes the same construction.
Date code 09.77, 03.88, 12.88 and 10.75

 

So two tubes dated 88. In his description it says "matched". But I'm not sure if I should risk it.

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Originally Posted by Cavcalade View Post

I got a response regarding these tubes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N23P-E88CC-ECC88-6DJ8-Matched-Selected-Quad-Voskhod-Rocket-NOS-Strong-/181364001328

Hi there!

Sorry for late answer!

So all tubes the same construction.

Date code 09.77, 03.88, 12.88 and 10.75

So two tubes dated 88. In his description it says "matched". But I'm not sure if I should risk it.
Well you got a response- that's an achievement. If he sends you those tubes...and...a Big and...they pass testing...that's a pretty good deal.
I would grab them if I were you. It's a crap shoot...a $54 crap shoot. BTW I asked this dealer recently if he had any '75s he said he didn't. Vodka for breakfast!
Edited by rb2013 - 4/18/14 at 7:41am
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what's crap shoot?  :blink:

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I love the Russian tube...it's pain for me to find good tubes....I'm almost giving up Russian Tubes....

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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post

what's crap shoot?  blink.gif
Taking a chance.
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Originally Posted by Tuco1965 View Post


Taking a chance.

Thank you sure!

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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post

I love the Russian tube...it's pain for me to find good tubes....I'm almost giving up Russian Tubes....
Nobody said this was going to be easy. I mean these are 50yr old tubes from the other side of the world...and not just any...but a particular year and type. I agree it's not easy, but when I listen to that flowing musical sound, it's worth it.

I've never heard such a natural rich tone, pin point imaging, holographic sonics, deep and wide soundstaging. I mean this is it! Deep bass, excellent treble extension with never a hit of etch, great detail, emerging from an ink black background. Wonderful dynamics, what more could you ask for?

I'm listening to these in the Lyr, but also two amps and a dac. So I'm able to get different perspectives on their sound. It is like nothing I heard before. The ability to just capture your attention and not let go. In over 20 yrs of playing around with audio, it's what I was looking for.

And to come from a 50 yr old Russian tube - for a hundred and fifty bucks - that's amazing!

I just spent $300 on a used USB cable - it's good - a nice incremental improvement. But does not come close to the huge leap these tubes make.
Edited by rb2013 - 4/18/14 at 6:12pm
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I have 1979 silver rockets how would you rate them
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I have 1979 silver rockets how would you rate them
That's kind the beginning of what I called the Super-Voskhod in my review back on the old thread. They are pretty good. How do you like them?
post #1872 of 3346
Not my best tubes but pretty good like 2 other pairs better but enjoy them
post #1873 of 3346
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Not my best tubes but pretty good like 2 other pairs better but enjoy them
Well that's good to hear. I mean for $30-$40 bucks not a bad value. As you move up the line they get better - less forward, more musical. The early 80's and '79s can be a bit etchy at times, but have excellent bass and deep detail. When you get to the top of the heap '74s and '75s they get very musical, smoother, with this entrancing flow.

At the top - the 'Holy Grails' it's jaw dropping good. That's at least my long experience.

If these were just mediocre, or even pretty good, I'd have said screw it a long time ago. These Russian/ former Soviet State dealers are ridiculous for the most part. With a few emerging as decent, but worth the effort to find them? I could be rolling cables, headphones, headphone cables, etc..instead.

But what these are revealing even in old recordings that I've heard thousands of times over the decades is incredible - details and a musical presentation that makes them seem almost new. Like an old Muscle car you've had for decades - that has just came back from a frame up restoration. Fun!
Edited by rb2013 - 4/20/14 at 10:57pm
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I agree we are in the hobby to squeeze the last ounce out of the sound and get great enjoyment from the results, but also the search
Right now I am enjoying telefunken tubes very good detail and sound stage my new favorites
Don't have much info on them but I like them
post #1875 of 3346
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I agree we are in the hobb to squeeze the last ounce out of the sound and get great enjoyment from the results, but also the search
Right now I am enjoying telefunken tubes very good detail and sound stage my new favorites
Don't have much info on them but I like them
The Telies are really good as well. To my ears the Voskhods have a bit more meat on them. That said I still 'jones' for a pair of CCa Telies. But everybody has different systems, and different tastes. What makes tube rolling so much fun. You can dial in that perfect sound for you. I'm a tone guy. It's got to have a natural rich tone, no thinness or tinnyness. But not euphonic either. I play acoustic guitar, and try to match that tonal harmonic sound of a great Gibson. Overtones trailing off ever so perfect. And dynamics, especially the micro variety. That jump or snap when a string is plucked. Realism.
Edited by rb2013 - 4/18/14 at 7:41pm
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