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post #1816 of 3100
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


if it sounds good, its good
Bingo
post #1817 of 3100
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Originally Posted by satwilson View Post
 

I have pulled the tubes from the Lyr and indeed there are no Phillips production codes. My confidence in mercedesman has dropped considerably as his description of the tubes in the Ebay ad seems totally fabricated. I posed the same question " Are these basically rebranded Amperex OG's" to him this morning and his response was "Made in the same factory, on the same lines, by the same workers, with the same materials,.....You make the connection ;). Unless someone else has evidence to the contrary I will contact him for a return/ refund. Should I confront him with the info from the forum or simply state "there are no Phillips production codes on the tubes to substantiate your product description on Ebay or your assertion ""Made in the same factory, on the same lines, by the same workers, with the same materials,.....You make the connection ;). ? Thanks, satwilson
 

 

I know mercedsman is very highly recommended in this forum, but as there are no tube codes linking these tubes to the Heerlen factory, he certainly should know better than to say, "Made in the same factory, on the same lines, by the same workers, with the same materials,.....You make the connection ;)".

 

However, I completely agree that if the tubes sound good, it doesn't matter where they were made. :)

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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post

A bunch of us are currently running all the same tubes the Liquid Glass runs in our modded Little Dots, and more. It is pretty neat to be able AB a 1975 Voskhod rocket, a 1944 Sylvania 6SN7W, a 1955 Eindhoven-made E80CC and a 1951 Bendix 2C51 in one session.

But of course, there is no way my $110 dollar Little Dot, plus $50 worth of mods, can compare in quality to the Liquid Glass, or even a Lyr. But in terms of tube rolling fun, it can't be beat for money.

Edit:typo
That is cool! I loved that '40s metal base Sylvania 6sn7w! Crazy prices now!
Edited by rb2013 - 4/12/14 at 8:29am
post #1819 of 3100

RB...can you explain about single wire getter please...or refer the thread.

 

Thanks

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Voskhod and Reflektor 6n23p Single Wire Getter Post construction.

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Voskhod 6n23p Plate Getter Post constuction

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FWIW, just posted a FS for a glorious pair of RTC tubes, rarely used from a previous Lyr.

post #1823 of 3100
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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post
 

 

I know mercedsman is very highly recommended in this forum, but as there are no tube codes linking these tubes to the Heerlen factory, he certainly should know better than to say, "Made in the same factory, on the same lines, by the same workers, with the same materials,.....You make the connection ;)".

 

However, I completely agree that if the tubes sound good, it doesn't matter where they were made. :)

Thanks to everyone for their patience and support. I'll eat a little crow here for my disdain for "minutia of details" in my earlier post. And yes thanks to all for the advice " If the tubes sound good". The 74 Matsu****a, in pristine condition sound great. Now that I am over the disappointment they aren't Amperex/Holland my research tells me(TubeMongerer thank you) they are still great mid level tubes. And most 70s Matsu****a go for almost twice the price I paid for mine. I will keep these and be happy, Should I contact mercedesman regarding the misinformation in his Ebay ad? 

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rb2013,

 

are you finding this? (see photo)

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Yes, the best ones are with the Silver shields. The shield color is determined on the side with wire getter post. Just found a couple in the UK!
Edited by rb2013 - 4/13/14 at 10:36pm
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First off I would like to thank everybody who has supported me. I'm very new to this.

Based on your recommendations I think I'll choose between the Orange Globes, 6N23P Voskhods or the Bugle Boys.

 

I have to admit, that I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the "data"(eg. 6N23P = E88CC = ECC88 = 6DJ8 ??)

 

I found a store that sells the Voskhods but I don't think they sell matched pairs.

http://tubes-store.com/product_info.php?products_id=12

 

On ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N23P-E88CC-ECC88-6DJ8-Matched-Selected-Quad-Voskhod-Rocket-NOS-Strong-/181364001328

 

I'm sure this is all pretty basic for you, but for me it's a bit much :)

post #1827 of 3100
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Originally Posted by Cavcalade View Post

First off I would like to thank everybody who has supported me. I'm very new to this.
Based on your recommendations I think I'll choose between the Orange Globes, 6N23P Voskhods or the Bugle Boys.

I have to admit, that I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the "data"(eg. 6N23P = E88CC = ECC88 = 6DJ8 ??)

I found a store that sells the Voskhods but I don't think they sell matched pairs.
http://tubes-store.com/product_info.php?products_id=12

On ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N23P-E88CC-ECC88-6DJ8-Matched-Selected-Quad-Voskhod-Rocket-NOS-Strong-/181364001328

I'm sure this is all pretty basic for you, but for me it's a bit much smily_headphones1.gif
Don't fret - part of the tube rolling addiction is the mystery and folkore of 'ancient' (vintage) tubes!

The tubestore seller is not a good source - he is just not forth coming as to what he will send you after taking your money. As for ebay Russian/ex-Soviet state sellers it's hit or miss. The ones I'm buying about 30% are failing testing when they arrive. I did notice a new seller on ebay - goes by radioretail from Lithuania. Now here is the sketchy part - has two auctions (no buy it now) with the SAME picture. How can that be? Well that generally means you get a random selection. I did just buy two - one '74 Voskhod and one '75 Reflektor with wire getter posts. The '75 the SWGP Silver Shield - 'Holy Grail'!!!! Now the 4 week wait and the testing...

You can give one of the Russian dealers a try...if you don't have any luck PM me I have few extra matched prs that have been throughly tested.

They're excellent tubes and worth a try. Good luck!
Edited by rb2013 - 4/14/14 at 4:43pm
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BTW - I found the '74 and '75 from a dealer named suchoy46 on ebay. Now here is the crazy part. About a week ago I bought 3 seperate listings he had - two were for 4 tubes and one for a pair. After I paid him I asked if he had '75s...his response was 'sorry don't have any'. Then a week later he lists 1 in a pair! For $19!!! I scatch my head...I would have paid him double even triple if he came directly to me with the '75.

These guys will never cease to amaze me. He does have three other listings, one a mismatched pr of Voskhods for $19. Not to interesting, if one or both are 'fails' that's a big waste of money. And this is what is really crazy - he has 2 other listings for common dual post Reflectors - for $24!!!

That makes no sense - a '74 Voskhod and a '75 SWGP Reflector for less! I bet they're both about worn out 'fails'. I'll report what shows up.
Edited by rb2013 - 4/14/14 at 4:45pm
post #1829 of 3100
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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post

Then a week later he lists 1 in a pair! For $19!!!

Sometimes peoples don't know that they sell. I bought two telefunkens ('44 and '58) from Germany for a little bit less then 40 euro.

Amazing telefunkens.... holy grail.... holographic sound...

post #1830 of 3100
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Originally Posted by Chs177 View Post

Sometimes peoples don't know that they sell. I bought two telefunkens ('44 and '58) from Germany for a little bit less then 40 euro.
Amazing telefunkens.... holy grail.... holographic sound...
There are some bargains out there if you know what to look for. The thing is on these 6n23ps - they almost never come in matched pairs from the Russian/former Soviet block dealers. So you have buy batch after batch and make matched sets yourself. I hope one day they get wise.

Spoke to a US tube dealer and one in the UK. I asked them why they don't carry these '70s 6n23p. The answer - they only want large blocks of tubes (say 500) - and those are just not available in the '70s. Where as they can find blocks of Siemens, Amperexs, Mullards, and Telefunkens - except the rarest kinds.

So it's back to the dark lit alleys of ebay!! Ugg!
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