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post #181 of 4053

Mercedesman has some very nice looking Telefunken for sale:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221261605097?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

 

The tubes I am running right now are these older Telefunken 6DJ8 and they are phenomenal. The sound is very different from the enamel paint label Telefunken you generally see these days.

post #182 of 4053

these telefunken from Mercedesman are the ones with athicker O-ring.

they have got lots more bass than the gold pins.

I have them both.

also have a pair of amperex Ecc88 HP.

just wanted to share my love for the telefunken.

The bass sound is almost as the amperex ,only with telefunken sound .

incredible!!!


Edited by rnsto - 8/2/13 at 3:45am
post #183 of 4053
What happened to all the love for orange globes
post #184 of 4053
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Originally Posted by Sanlitun View Post

Mercedesman has some very nice looking Telefunken for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221261605097?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

The tubes I am running right now are these older Telefunken 6DJ8 and they are phenomenal. The sound is very different from the enamel paint label Telefunken you generally see these days.

"Made in Western Germany"? That's the west of former BRD, West Germany. Strange language.
post #185 of 4053

I know the Gold Lions had some favor back in the earliest days of the previous thread, and as much as I love some of the NOS tubes (currently '76 Rockets; had some '68 OG's that I never really liked), I'm really curious what the opinion is on some of the new production tubes. After all, the good NOS tubes will eventually all dry up or be priced out of reach and we'll inevitably be discussing this. So.. JJ's, Electro-Harmonix, Gold Lions? Anyone even trying these out and comparing to the NOS tubes?


Edited by eyeoftheruby - 8/2/13 at 6:48pm
post #186 of 4053

Well, realistically, if NOS tubes get 5000-10000 hours each, I'll probably only need to buy between 10-15 sets in my lifetime before I either die or loss my hearing. The next generation is screwed.

 

The stock GE's are the worst ones I've heard by a longshot. Totally lacking in detail, inconsistant from listen to listen, they ran about twice as hot as all the older tubes I've tried, crackling in the upper mids...good riddance! I think the Schiit guys are hurting their own product packing those in. I hear they are generally considered better than the stock JJ's too.

 

But I do wonder...would it really be that hard for someone to make a reliable audiophile grade new tube? Obviously the demand is there.

post #187 of 4053
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Well, realistically, if NOS tubes get 5000-10000 hours each, I'll probably only need to buy between 10-15 sets in my lifetime before I either die or loss my hearing. The next generation is screwed.

 

The stock GE's are the worst ones I've heard by a longshot. Totally lacking in detail, inconsistant from listen to listen, they ran about twice as hot as all the older tubes I've tried, crackling in the upper mids...good riddance! I think the Schiit guys are hurting their own product packing those in. I hear they are generally considered better than the stock JJ's too.

 

But I do wonder...would it really be that hard for someone to make a reliable audiophile grade new tube? Obviously the demand is there.

 

Even if the demand is there, the old scientists/technicians who designed the specific tooling and knew the exact ingredients in whatever mixture are probably long dead.

 

I think tearing down a tube and measuring and analysing it's composition both physical and chemical would be the only way, but i think that may cost a lot, and then you need someone to make the tooling again to these exact measurements and produce a batch of tubes for what is a niche market, would be cheaper buying NOS from ebay at a guess.

post #188 of 4053
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Curious about opinions here on new production tubes. My pair of JJ E88CCs are simply outstanding tubes and quite possibly my best. They have clarity and detail with just a touch of a silky character so that there is no grain or sibilance. I can't stand tubes that veil details and I think it makes for a very fatiguing listening experience when you are struggling to hear what you expect from the music. I gather these tubes are designed and sounded to be this way and they are very good and are in my top 3 among some very well regarded tubes.

 

Has anyone tried these or their gold pinned counterparts? There is also the Genalex E88CC which seems to be a modern 6N23P from the pictures I have seen. I'm pretty curious about those as well.

It seems anyway that some new tubes are appreciated. In my case I am waiting mine.

post #189 of 4053
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Originally Posted by Rudiger View Post

It seems anyway that some new tubes are appreciated. In my case I am waiting mine.

 

I quite enjoy my set of JJ's particularly for their clarity and detail. For the price mine are outstanding. The rest of the new brands I haven't heard but I am certainly curious.

 

The JJ's are similar to the old Czech Tesla tubes so I have always wondered what those sound like as well.

post #190 of 4053
Really like the orange globes 1969 sound smooth good bass and treble
post #191 of 4053
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Originally Posted by Sanlitun View Post

 

I quite enjoy my set of JJ's particularly for their clarity and detail. For the price mine are outstanding. The rest of the new brands I haven't heard but I am certainly curious.

 

The JJ's are similar to the old Czech Tesla tubes so I have always wondered what those sound like as well.

 

I think the JJ's are made in the same factory as the old Tesla's.

post #192 of 4053

I'm more concerned that the NOS tubes will likely become prohibitively expensive, rather than disappearing. Unless we find some more cheap-ish gems like the Rockets. It doesn't seem like anyone has really tried much beyond the JJ's for new production tubes. Maybe I can try and budget for a few and see how they compare, but if anyone has any impressions it would be great to hear. 

post #193 of 4053
I have some NOS Russians in box if anyone interested
post #194 of 4053
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I have some NOS Russians in box if anyone interested

You better let them out!
post #195 of 4053
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You better let them out!


Or at least poke some holes in the box wink.gif

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