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post #1336 of 4181
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Originally Posted by Mandala View Post
 

How would any of you who have run the stock GEs for any amount of time characterize their sound?


I've run the GE stock tubes for over 100 hours and they have settled into a nice sound. Musical and very listenable for long periods. I think they are a good choice to compare other tubes with. I do like the Bugle Boys 1965 small O getter but have several more tubes on order to try. I could live with the GEs if better tubes weren't available but they take a significant time to settle in. Nasty expensive hobby we have here. I mainly listen to jazz, classical rock and classical long hair stuff.

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Originally Posted by roman410 View Post
 

+1 Very nice tubes, with best instrument separation what i even heard! I found them best for instrumental jazz, classic rock and classical music. Worst I have ready two pairs:o


Agreed. With a drawer full of VERY nice tubes to choose from, the Mullard CV4109s are my favorites.

 

Besides, the bakelite base on them just looks cool. :smile:

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How do the mullard cv4109s sound compared to '60's orange globes?

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How do the mullard cv4109s sound compared to '60's orange globes?


Mullards are generally regarded as having a smooth, lush "laid back" sound with a relaxed top end, which works great if your system is on the bright side. To my ears, the CV4109s have terrific instrument separation and are even slightly more detailed than the CV2493, which is another great Mullard tube and my previous favorite.

 

The Orange Globes are smooth and detailed as well, but more forward and "in your face". They work great to liven up a darker rig. I personally loved the OGs with my old HD650s.

 

YMMV.

 

:beerchug:

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Mullards are generally regarded as having a smooth, lush "laid back" sound with a relaxed top end, which works great if your system is on the bright side. To my ears, the CV4109s have terrific instrument separation and are even slightly more detailed than the CV2493, which is another great Mullard tube and my previous favorite.

 

The Orange Globes are smooth and detailed as well, but more forward and "in your face". They work great to liven up a darker rig. I personally loved the OGs with my old HD650s.

 

YMMV.

 

:beerchug:

Hi OldSkool, thanks for the reply.  I don't think I have a very bright system...  I will add it to my sig later.  I have LCD-2's with Silver Dragon cable and an Oppo BDP-95 as a source.  I also have a Musical Hall 2.2 turntable as the other source.  I am trying to find some good tubes for this.  I tried some miniwatt's from tubemonger, and some orange globes from ebay and so far am not totally satisfied.  I listen to rock and rap and some classical soundtracks.  I like bass.  Any suggestions?

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Hi OldSkool, thanks for the reply.  I don't think I have a very bright system...  I will add it to my sig later.  I have LCD-2's with Silver Dragon cable and an Oppo BDP-95 as a source.  I also have a Musical Hall 2.2 turntable as the other source.  I am trying to find some good tubes for this.  I tried some miniwatt's from tubemonger, and some orange globes from ebay and so far am not totally satisfied.  I listen to rock and rap and some classical soundtracks.  I like bass.  Any suggestions?


Unfortunately, I have never heard the Audezes. I hope to finally hear a pair at a Dallas meet this summer.

 

Therefore, any advice I give about the best tubes for your chain would be a guess.

 

Can any LCD-2 owners out there make a solid recommendation here?

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I want to thank everyone in this thread for sharing their experiences with all the various tubes. I recently made the transition to a headphones-only setup at my desk after a few years of trying out various speakers and DAC combinations. 

 

My setup: Macbook Air 2012 > Supra USB > Schiit Bifrost Uber > Schiit Pyst RCA > Schiit Lyr > Double Helix "Molecule" OCC headphone cable > AKG K702. 

 

I'm looking forward to having some fun with tube rolling. Currently I'm only about 15 hours in on my current setup and still running the stock tubes that came with the Lyr. As-is, everything sounds great at this point. After reading this thread and the previous Tube Rollers thread, I have on order the following tubes as my foray into tweaking the sound that will work best with my setup. Also picked up a pair of the NOVIB socket savers. I don't like how the tubes are buried inside the Lyr, so hopefully the NOVIBs will make swapping out the tubes a bit easier and put them more on display (anticipating some nice night photos).

 

  • 1958 Amperex 6DJ8 ECC88 D Getter Bugle Boy Holland
  • Matsu****a E88CC 6922 Mullard Tooling Gold Pin
  • 1978 6N23P Voskhod Military 6DJ8 E88CC (Red star CCCP Winged Logo, Kaluga factory)

 

Any suggestions or tips of course are welcome. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by mwillits View Post
 

I want to thank everyone in this thread for sharing their experiences with all the various tubes. I recently made the transition to a headphones-only setup at my desk after a few years of trying out various speakers and DAC combinations. 

 

My setup: Macbook Air 2012 > Supra USB > Schiit Bifrost Uber > Schiit Pyst RCA > Schiit Lyr > Double Helix "Molecule" OCC headphone cable > AKG K702. 

 

I'm looking forward to having some fun with tube rolling. Currently I'm only about 15 hours in on my current setup and still running the stock tubes that came with the Lyr. As-is, everything sounds great at this point. After reading this thread and the previous Tube Rollers thread, I have on order the following tubes as my foray into tweaking the sound that will work best with my setup. Also picked up a pair of the NOVIB socket savers. I don't like how the tubes are buried inside the Lyr, so hopefully the NOVIBs will make swapping out the tubes a bit easier and put them more on display (anticipating some nice night photos).

 

  • 1958 Amperex 6DJ8 ECC88 D Getter Bugle Boy Holland
  • Matsu****a E88CC 6922 Mullard Tooling Gold Pin
  • 1978 6N23P Voskhod Military 6DJ8 E88CC (Red star CCCP Winged Logo, Kaluga factory)

 

Any suggestions or tips of course are welcome. Thanks again!

 

Congrats on an excellent setup.

 

The NOVIB socket savers are great.  You probably read this in the threads, but just make sure you use something non-metallic to keep the savers in place when removing tubes.  Doesn't take excessive pressure.  A piece of wood like a popsicle stick or similar works well.

 

Those are nice tubes with which to start :)  I'd like to get the D getter BBs.

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I had some NOVIB socketsavers from tubemonger...  had a problem with noise.  Just keep in mind, once those things are in, they are IN.  Next to impossible to remove.

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I had some NOVIB socketsavers from tubemonger...  had a problem with noise.  Just keep in mind, once those things are in, they are IN.  Next to impossible to remove.

I'm having no issues pulling mine out. It just takes a different kind of wiggle. What I will say is I'm notice some noise with them in as well. I originally bought them because I like seeing glowing lights, but now I'm thinking it's just not worth it.

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I'm having no issues pulling mine out. It just takes a different kind of wiggle. What I will say is I'm notice some noise with them in as well. I originally bought them because I like seeing glowing lights, but now I'm thinking it's just not worth it.

I think the sound is better without them.  Could be my imagination.

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Originally Posted by MisterMoJo View Post
 

I think the sound is better without them.  Could be my imagination.

I think you're right.

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Originally Posted by MisterMoJo View Post

I had some NOVIB socketsavers from tubemonger...  had a problem with noise.  Just keep in mind, once those things are in, they are IN.  Next to impossible to remove.
I would highly recommend getting some DeoxIT Pro Gold contact enhancer, get the bottle with the brush applicator. Apply a small amount on each pin, not only will it make it easier to remove the tube or socket saver, it may actually improve the sound and reduce noise issues. It acts as a safe contact enhancer and deoxidier. It will also help stop future oxidation of the pins. $24 at www.all-spec.com.
Edited by rb2013 - 2/28/14 at 10:41am
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I would highly recommend getting some Detox Pro Gold contact enhancer, get the bottle with the brush applicator. Aply a small amount on each pin, not only will it make it easier to remove the tube or socket saver, it may actually improve the sound and reduce noise issues. It acts as a safe contact enhancer and deoxidier. It will also help stop future oxidation of the pins. $24 at www.all-spec.com.

 

+1

 

I got their vacuum tube kit, which comes with the Gold with brush.  I use the other (D-25?) and the soaker cups on new tubes (except those with gold pins), then finish with the Deoxit Gold.  I also use the thin brush to apply a very little Gold into the sockets of both the Lyr and the socket savers.  So, everything's all lubed up ;)  I've yet to have a noisy or microphonic tube.  I've definitely removed buildup from older tubes.

 

Aren't the NOVIBs supposed to have some vibration dampening built into them?

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I think you're right.
I did a pretty careful comparison with and without the tube risers - I couldn't hear a difference.
Edited by rb2013 - 2/28/14 at 10:42am
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