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post #1111 of 10906

Thurston,

 

These are effectively a lot of tubes, but I don't think I will test in depth all the tubes.I will select the ones worth, maybe 3 tubes and test these with all the music. The CCAs are wonderful for orchestral music and all the well recorded chamber & piano, but trebles are somewhat analytical... I hope I will find a pair of tubes, maybe having less definition which I could use for those records. I don't want to find a universal tube! And changing my Cans is out of question. The tubes are a good investment, due to the fact that you can resell them without losing too much money. I am done with hardware swapping, this is costing too much and would harm my music budget which is for me the most important! Of course the new HE560 will be better than the HE500, maybe the Audeze LCD3 too. But with the Schiit Lyr I have achieved the results, I wanted, well over my most optimistic hopes and I am trying to optimize this setup as well as possible, that's all (and tube rolling is really fun...:wink:).

 

Charles

post #1112 of 10906

I think I'm preferring the stock tubes on the HD 600 and the Orange Globes on the HD 700. They both sound similar on a K702 AE, but I haven't listened as much on those cans. Was thinking about picking up some Bugle Boys. Does that sound like a decent direction to go?

post #1113 of 10906
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Originally Posted by Brouken Air View Post
 

I wanted to test the CCA with classical piano. A lot of my recordings are old recordings (Sviatoslav Richter, Miecyslaw Horszowski, Clara Haskill, Clifford Curzon, Claudio Arrau...), meaning a lot of coughings, doors closing, sonic distorsion, 'Rauschen' and all these beautiful things which are making the charm of those recordings...:biggrin: 

Obviously the CCAs are not very forgiving, as soon as there's a little distorsion in the trebbles, it becomes harsh and induce listening "fatique". As I am listening at high volume (but reasonable :eek:), this is really exasperating!!!

Maybe the tubes, I have ordered could cope with that!

These are the monsters, I ordered:

Buggle Boys,

Orange Globe,

Brimar CV 2492 Cryo,

Ediswan 6BQ7A Cryo,

Tesla E88CC golden pins,

Some Russian rockets at very low price.

 

I would like to have your advices on that... As I am listening to a Beethoven sonata the Appassionata played by Annie Fischer and it's again a miracle of articulation and timing, dynamics are just perfect! Basses are now to die for (they have improved with the Burn-in and still do (+- 80 hours) and middles are liquid gold.

Timing is essential in playing Bach 'The tempered Clavier', as this music is really about time and space (listen to Miecyslaw Horszowski or Sviatoslav Richter). 

 

So the qualities requested for the new tubes would be those of the CCAs , but maybe a bit less analytical though not too warm, an a huge sense of timing. + Rich mids with a touch of liquidity + forgiving trebbles whith lot of air qualities + Bass well mastered. If anyone know a tube corresponding to that desciption, please tell me (but maybe it's a Graal again) + a large stage and enough depth.

 

For the sonically good recordings of Piano, the CCAs are just perfect and I am currently relistening all my recordings matching. When I will receive all my tubes, I will make a complete review of the tubes which are of interest (but maybe I am spoiled by the CCAs!!! Naturally this review will be targeted vs classical music...:deadhorse: Nobody's perfect...

 

Have all a nice morning or afternoon or evening.

 

Charles

 

 

 On the 

 

I think you would really like the Amperex PQ White Label 6922 with Large O-Getter Gold Pins made in USA.  Or maybe the Valvo E88CC Red Labels made in Hamburg O-Getter that I just got.  Still demoing the Valvo tubes, so I can't say for sure on them just yet.

post #1114 of 10906
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

I think I'm preferring the stock tubes on the HD 600 and the Orange Globes on the HD 700. They both sound similar on a K702 AE, but I haven't listened as much on those cans. Was thinking about picking up some Bugle Boys. Does that sound like a decent direction to go?

 

I slightly prefer Orange Globes over Bugle Boys with my HD 650.  But Bugle Boys are nice tubes, especially if you can find some made in the late 50's or early 60's with a D-getter or large O-getter.  

post #1115 of 10906

Well one of the Valvo tubes croaked on me tonight.  I am not very happy about it as I was really loving those tubes.  Hoping the seller can get me another of the same tube.  Have the Amperex PQ 6922 White Label USA back in the Lyr.  She's glowing nice and pretty tonight.

post #1116 of 10906
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Originally Posted by okcameradude View Post

I slightly prefer Orange Globes over Bugle Boys with my HD 650.  But Bugle Boys are nice tubes, especially if you can find some made in the late 50's or early 60's with a D-getter or large O-getter.  
If you like bass, Bugle Boys are the ones to go.
post #1117 of 10906
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Originally Posted by okcameradude View Post

Have the Amperex PQ 6922 White Label USA back in the Lyr.  She's glowing nice and pretty tonight.
So wait, are there different versions of the Lyr? If so, what are the differences and how can you tell?
post #1118 of 10906
Theres no different versions of the Lyr. Bifrost yes.
post #1119 of 10906
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Originally Posted by delancyst View Post

Theres no different versions of the Lyr. Bifrost yes.

Ugh. Totally read that wrong. Yeah, I know about the different versions of the Biifrost. Decided to not chance picking up something used and just bought new today instead.

post #1120 of 10906
Don't worry. Its all the same for Lyr whether you get it used or new.
post #1121 of 10906
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Originally Posted by okcameradude View Post
 

 

I think you would really like the Amperex PQ White Label 6922 with Large O-Getter Gold Pins made in USA.  Or maybe the Valvo E88CC Red Labels made in Hamburg O-Getter that I just got.  Still demoing the Valvo tubes, so I can't say for sure on them just yet.

Just from what I read the Orange Globes seem too be quite warm and forgiving, are the PQ Amperex more neutral? How would you describe their sounding?

post #1122 of 10906

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Looking for the best Mullard E188CC/7308 type pair you'll ever find for your Lyr...NOS 1967 Mullard 4109's on the For Sale Forum.

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Edited by billerb1 - 1/27/14 at 8:10am
post #1123 of 10906
What about the telefunken
post #1124 of 10906

I'm really considering buying the Lyr (the other choice will be v200) for my HE-500.

I don't have the time to go through this thread and the old one , so is there anyone who can do a quick sum up of 

the top tubes for this combo ? :regular_smile :

Budget : 100$-200$ (max)

thank you

post #1125 of 10906
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Originally Posted by vl4dimir View Post
 

I'm really considering buying the Lyr (the other choice will be v200) for my HE-500.

I don't have the time to go through this thread and the old one , so is there anyone who can do a quick sum up of 

the top tubes for this combo ? :regular_smile :

Budget : 100$-200$ (max)

thank you

 

Amperex Orange Globes

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