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post #256 of 508
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


I, personally, don't see the need for an aftermarket cable. Especially at the cost of $100+

 

It's not "needed" per se. It just improves the experience by removing the annoying microphonics. If you are trying to build a system around the HE-500 like I did, it's a worthwhile upgrade.

post #257 of 508
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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post

 

It's not "needed" per se. It just improves the experience by removing the annoying microphonics. If you are trying to build a system around the HE-500 like I did, it's a worthwhile upgrade.

I completely agree here.  When the stock cable rubbed against the collar of my shirt or against itself, the sound could be heard through the earcups.  Plus, it was stiff to the point that it would not stay coiled.  At 10' (I think), that's a lot of cable to manage if you're sitting right next to your amp. 


I'm not suggesting one needs to purchase a multi-hundred dollar cable.  I got a "nice" cable off ebay for about $50.  It has neither of the problems that the stock cable has.  I didn't want a new cable for sound reasons.  The stock cable sounded just fine.  But, to me, fixing the other issues was worth the money. 

 

If the stock cable doesn't bother you, then you get to save a little bit of money in not replacing it.  Nice.  If anybody in this camp wants to buy a used spare, I've got one available. 

post #258 of 508
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


Well it's not like we take these headphones portable and run the wire through rough environments so I don't really see why it would be such a huge problem for so many people. Same thing with microphonic. You generally don't walk around with these, so why would it really matter so much?

 

While just sitting in my listening chair, or at the desk, a slight move would set off the microphonics noise that really bothered me.  

 

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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


I, personally, don't see the need for an aftermarket cable. Especially at the cost of $100+

 

One doesn't need to spend $100+ on an after-market cable.  Ebay has options for high-quality cables of lesser cost.  [Shameless Plug] wink.gif

post #259 of 508

A few things (off the top of my head so far):

 

I just received my HE-500s and listened to some of my favorite songs, and I must say, it's pretty unimpressive. 


I purchased them from the forums with a purported <50 hours of listening, I'm sure there's room for the break-in, but I was hoping that the quality difference would have been as great as others have been saying it was.

 

I'm running it through a AudioGD NFB 11.32, and it gives plenty of power. (11 o' clock on high gain for now)
 

I'm upgrading from V-moda Crossfade LPs, and while I'm sure there is a respectable difference in quality (the muddiness from the LPs was pretty prominent) it wasn't as mind-blowing as I was hoping, but I'm going to go ahead and blame that on me having such high expectations after reading several reviews and impressions from the HE-500s.

 

Notable users like Jerg have stated that the headphones are more of a "grower" rather than a "show-er", where time a factor in increasing quality of the headphones. 

I got them for approx. $575, and I would say overall I don't regret my purchase, this setup will last me for quite some time and I HOPE everyone is right about them getting only better from here. 

post #260 of 508

I think all planar magnetics are growers, at least in my experience.  HE-400, Mad Dogs and especially LCD2.

post #261 of 508
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I think all planar magnetics are growers, at least in my experience.  HE-400, Mad Dogs and especially LCD2.

Relatively speaking HE400 is much more of a shower than HE500.

post #262 of 508
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I think all planar magnetics are growers, at least in my experience.  HE-400, Mad Dogs and especially LCD2.
LCD 2 blew my socks off from first listen
post #263 of 508

They're flat and un-engaging on first listen.

post #264 of 508
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LCD 2 blew my socks off from first listen

I didn't get the same impression from first listen, 2nd listen and over the weekend at the CA meet.  Not my type of sound.

Even tried the LCD3 on a studio 6 and different setups, while better than LCD2, it was far from a "wow" for me.

post #265 of 508
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Originally Posted by Novaeangliae View Post

A few things (off the top of my head so far):

I just received my HE-500s and listened to some of my favorite songs, and I must say, it's pretty unimpressive. 


I purchased them from the forums with a purported <50 hours of listening, I'm sure there's room for the break-in, but I was hoping that the quality difference would have been as great as others have been saying it was.

I'm running it through a AudioGD NFB 11.32, and it gives plenty of power. (11 o' clock on high gain for now)

 
I'm upgrading from V-moda Crossfade LPs, and while I'm sure there is a respectable difference in quality (the muddiness from the LPs was pretty prominent) it wasn't as mind-blowing as I was hoping, but I'm going to go ahead and blame that on me having such high expectations after reading several reviews and impressions from the HE-500s.

Notable users like Jerg have stated that the headphones are more of a "grower" rather than a "show-er", where time a factor in increasing quality of the headphones. 


I got them for approx. $575, and I would say overall I don't regret my purchase, this setup will last me for quite some time and I HOPE everyone is right about them getting only better from here. 

I had a similar experience when I first got my HE-500. I was very disappointed and even considered returning them to Amazon. I ended up sticking with it and after about a week, the HE-500's strengths started becoming much more apparent. It doesn't wow you at first but trust me, it will, given a little time
post #266 of 508

Maybe depends what you're listening to. I've had two pairs and found them both echoey and hollow sounding--that's with classical/orchestral. Just not my sound, I guess. I prefer my DT880 Pro.

post #267 of 508

I was certainly wow'd upon first listen to the HE-500s, after moving up from my HE-400s. Particularly, the midrange and the properly done treble, relative to the HE-400s. Vocals sounded much more even and engaging, and the treble was still sparkly, but nowhere near as hot as the HE-400s.

post #268 of 508
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Coming from mid-fi the he500 was an improvement on everything. Only the bass was a MASSIVE improvement along with the silky midrange. Biggest thing moving from dt series to he500 is music became much more layered, non grainy or very smooth, and much more extension all around.
post #269 of 508
It took me a little time to really start enjoying the he500, a week of about 1-2 hrs per day. Although I might be a minority in this, but I still enjoy the he400 just not as much as the he500.
Edited by soundeffect - 8/13/13 at 5:35am
post #270 of 508

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I've been listening to some songs from Ludovico Einaudi, and I can see where people are getting the impression that they are in the actual studio listening to the song playing, the quality is pretty crisp, and while it was what I wanted for my songs, it didn't really seem to bring out anything special from the Anime songs I tried playing.

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