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Today, I went and tried out a few headphone models at Best Buy to compare to my Sennheiser HD 201 (with HD 438 velour pad replacements, very important factor here). I tested songs from Daft Punk''s new album "RAM" and songs from Misery Signal's new album "Absent Light." My setup was Windows Media Player->firewire->PreSonus Firebox. Here are my thoughts as a music lover, but not as an audiophile:

 

I first tried the Sennheiser Momentum set. I was instantly blown away by these headphones. If I could have them right now I would. The bass is well present but still not out of place. The sound stage was big and instrument separation was also pretty sweet. Clarity and ability to hear details overall were beyond what I've ever heard in a headphone. The fit was really snug and allowed me to head bang quite easily. They are also very compact, and thus great for traveling and riding around town. Overall, they destroyed my HD 201s with velour pads.

 

Next, I tried the Sennheiser HD 518 set. Swapping between them and my HD 201s w/velour pads, I immediately noticed how muddy the HD 518s were. Details were hard to hear and the bass spectrum dominated way too much. The sound stage wasn't much better either. My HD 201 phones were closer to the higher end models than the HD 518 model. For $150 the HD 518s seem like a pretty bad deal when you can go my route for under $40 when considering sound quality. However, the HD 518s ended up being my favorite headphones in terms of comfort. The fit is literally so great and snug I couldn't believe it at first.  

 

After that, I went to the Sennheiser PXC 450 set. Instantly I was surrounded by a surreal sound stage. The bass is very prevalent but not muddy. Frequency balance was also pretty decent. They fit similarly to the HD 518, which was really snug with good ergonomics. I just really liked the sound signature and fit of these headphones. Definitely better than my HD 201s w/velour pads. 

 

Next up, I moved on to what I was most excited for, the Sennheiser HD 800. The first thing I noticed was how freaking huge this thing was. The cups are so big they enter peripheral vision. Once I started testing the music, I then noticed the large sound stage and airy sound. Instrument separation was the best I've ever heard, and the frequency balance was incredibly flat. The frequency response is what you need for a professional job, but these phones are still fun as hell. I mean, the experience is basically like listening to actual speakers, but through headphones. I was at first a bit disappointed when comparing to my HD 201s, but once I got past the unusually balanced frequency response and let myself enjoy the other elements of the set, I began to hear why the HD 800s are so great. The phones are super airy, the sound is extremely clear, the bass is only there when it should be there, and the fit is comfortable enough (though not as comfortable as the HD 518s). I am sad to say, however, that $1500 seems like a very bad deal for a bump in performance like this. The experience is great, but only worth $1500 if you literally have no better use for the money (meaning you are probably in the upper-middle class or above). If I had to save money for this pair, I'd spend $400-$500 maximum. That is what I feel they are worth compared to my HD 201s w/velour pads, which surprisingly held up well throughout my testing.     

 

And last but not least, I finished the night off with the Audio Technica Grandioso. Ho. Ly. Crap. These headphones sounded waaay crazy. At first I had no idea how I was listening to what I was. I only listen to Sennheiser headphones, so the different sound signature smacked me right in the ears. It seemed like there was a noticeable focus on treble and on keeping bass away from the trebles. A combination of that and whatever godlike drivers were inside produced the clearest and most detailed sound I've ever heard through headphones, quickly topping the Sennheiser Momentum set I tried earlier. The bass was still there, and damn was it good. Metal sounded very good despite the set being treble centric. The fit is also really nice, with the phones fitting dynamically with flexible frame bands. These headphones are so damn fun I want them right now...please Santa ;(. 

 

At the end of the day I was pretty happy about my testing session. One thing I've learned is that my HD 201s w/velour pads actually don't suck and have very good drivers for their price. That may just keep me from upgrading until I feel the need for a bigger sound stage and better build quality. Here is how I would rate each headphone, from best to worst:

 

Sennheiser HD 800 (best balanced) tied with Audio Technica ATH-W1000x Grandioso (most fun)->Sennheiser Momentum (very fun and clear sound)->Sennheiser PXC 450 (incredible atmosphere)->Sennheiser HD 201 w/velour pads (basic Sennheiser sound signature for cheap)->Sennheiser HD 518 (most comfortable, though very muddy)

 

Thank you for reading and please feel free to offer insight and opinions about these models and for analyzing head phones in the future.


Edited by TrantaLocked - 7/18/13 at 11:20pm
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Where do you live that your local bestbuy had hd800s to try out in store with your own equipment?! i am mad jelly right now :P

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Santa Clara, California. When I called them and they told me they had them, I got super excited. I walked right into the Magnolia section and there was a center piece with the headphones hanging out, free to plug into whatever you device you wanted to. I took out my laptop and amp right then and there XD. It was half Sennheisers, half Audio Technica. In the other head phone section at my store there are the normal Bose and Beats phones on display. Gotta be honest, props to Best Buy for tonight's great experience. I dislike their over pricing but this makes up for it.

 

I am disappointed that they didn't have the HD 558s or HD 598s on display. Those are the ones I am really considering, but I still got a good idea of what high end Sennheiser phones sound like. Freaking finally. 


Edited by TrantaLocked - 7/18/13 at 11:16pm
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Today, I went and tried out a few headphone models at Best Buy to compare to my Sennheiser HD 201 (with HD 438 velour pad replacements, very important factor here).

Next up, I moved on to what I was most excited for, the Sennheiser HD 800. The first thing I noticed was how freaking huge this thing was. The cups are so big they enter peripheral vision. Once I started testing the music, I then noticed the large sound stage and airy sound. Instrument separation was the best I've ever heard, and the frequency balance was incredibly flat. The frequency response is what you need for a professional job, but these phones are still fun as hell. I mean, the experience is basically like listening to actual speakers, but through headphones. I was at first a bit disappointed when comparing to my HD 201s, but once I got past the unusually balanced frequency response and let myself enjoy the other elements of the set, I began to hear why the HD 800s are so great. The phones are super airy, the sound is extremely clear, the bass is super tight and only there when it should be there, and the fit is comfortable enough (though not as comfortable as the HD 518s). I am sad to say, however, that $1500 seems like a very bad deal for a bump in performance like this. The experience is great, but only worth $1500 if you literally have no better use for the money (meaning you are probably in the upper-middle class or above). If I had to save money for this pair, I'd spend $400-$500 maximum. That is what I feel they are worth compared to my HD 201s w/velour pads, which surprisingly held up well throughout my testing.     


Haha, you don't need to be in upper middle class to own an HD800. I'm just in my mid-20's and I've been frugal. I can afford my headphone setup, a condo, and I'm about to go car hunting. I'd like to think I've been financially smart and I've been trading/investing actively. My finances are planned for the next 2 years and watch it daily.

I suggest you try the HD800 through a proper amplifier before saying they're worth $400 or so. When properly amped, I think they rival Stax 007 and beat the Sony R10s. I bought a used pair from Head-fi for $1100 though.
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I'd be interested in hearing it through a good amp, but that day may never come. I think I at least got the basic idea as the amp in the FireBox is very powerful, even if it isn't engineered to produce as good of a sound as the better headphone amps out there. I do agree that there was probably something lacking, but I still thought it sounded very good and plug my judgement of worth is a lot different than that of audiophiles.


Edited by TrantaLocked - 7/19/13 at 12:19am
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