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post #946 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Solution

 

And may be this if you stop liking the sound. LOL. Kidding, kidding, it's jut too funny, sorry, couldn't resist.

With the first I cannot use the video projector :popcorn:

The second solution can help my when I urn up the volume too high (I have *only* a pair of pro monitors = 1.100 watts) :beerchug: 

 

TNX Andrew :smile_phones:

post #947 of 1394

Getting an emotiva mini a x 100 speaker amp soon. Any thoughts on using the DA8 as a premap or as a pure dac?

post #948 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Angelbelow View Post
 

Getting an emotiva mini a x 100 speaker amp soon. Any thoughts on using the DA8 as a premap or as a pure dac?

I think its better as a pure dac.  The amp section is good but not great and I think that the emotiva will be a better amp.  

post #949 of 1394

I have a Mytek and the Yulong: I always use the pre

post #950 of 1394

In my system (DA8, preamp, active monitors) it seems to me that the focus and presence are a little more prominent and better if I leave the volume to 0dB rather than bypass it. 
If I use the bypass (again: it seems to me...) I lose a bit of presence and focus but I get a more natural sound...
I need to play a lot to find the sound that suits me.
P.S. How many hours the DA8 needs to break-in?

post #951 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

In my system (DA8, preamp, active monitors) it seems to me that the focus and presence are a little more prominent and better if I leave the volume to 0dB rather than bypass it. 
If I use the bypass (again: it seems to me...) I lose a bit of presence and focus but I get a more natural sound...
I need to play a lot to find the sound that suits me.
P.S. How many hours the DA8 needs to break-in?

So basically your preamp sucks.

post #952 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

In my system (DA8, preamp, active monitors) it seems to me that the focus and presence are a little more prominent and better if I leave the volume to 0dB rather than bypass it. 
If I use the bypass (again: it seems to me...) I lose a bit of presence and focus but I get a more natural sound...
I need to play a lot to find the sound that suits me.
P.S. How many hours the DA8 needs to break-in?

I am pretty sure that if you are doing this than you are just double amping it if you are doing this.  I think that should burn in fully after about 100hours.

post #953 of 1394

Does the DA8 upsample PCM in hardware?  If yes, is it possible to turn it off?  If not, has anyone tried upsampling via software like JRiver?  I tried upsampling to 88.2/96kHz, 178.4/196kHz, and 2xDSD (5.6MHz) in JRiver.  With the kHz sampling rates, the sound seemed to get smoothed out and the details are lost.  With 5.6MHz, there is a slight smoothing of the sound, but there is also increased details.  However, with 5.6MHz I also get fatigue after listenign to 1 or 2 albums.  DSD upsampling also resulted in large soundstage (increased width and depth).  I am wondering what everyone's experiences are with upsampling.  

DAC settings: Slow filter for PCM; 50kHz filter for DSD.  Jitter Eliminator OFF.  Pure DAC mode. 

post #954 of 1394
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Originally Posted by lmf22 View Post
 

Does the DA8 upsample PCM in hardware?  If yes, is it possible to turn it off?  If not, has anyone tried upsampling via software like JRiver?  I tried upsampling to 88.2/96kHz, 178.4/196kHz, and 2xDSD (5.6MHz) in JRiver.  With the kHz sampling rates, the sound seemed to get smoothed out and the details are lost.  With 5.6MHz, there is a slight smoothing of the sound, but there is also increased details.  However, with 5.6MHz I also get fatigue after listenign to 1 or 2 albums.  DSD upsampling also resulted in large soundstage (increased width and depth).  I am wondering what everyone's experiences are with upsampling.  

DAC settings: Slow filter for PCM; 50kHz filter for DSD.  Jitter Eliminator OFF.  Pure DAC mode. 

What you wrote is somehow extremely confusing..

post #955 of 1394
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 

What you wrote is somehow extremely confusing..

Maybe I need to rephrase; I was excited when I wrote that LOL. 

 

I tried the following upsampling settings in JRiver: 

1. 88.2/96 kHz

2. 178.4/196 kHz

3. 2xDSD (5.6MHz).

 

Number 1 and 2 made the sound smoother, but details are lost.  Treble seemed to be rolled off. 

Number 3 made the sound slightly smoother (not as much as number 1 and 2), and there are more details. The soundstage is also larger (deeper and wider). 

 

With DSD upsample, I get fatigue after listenging to one or two albums, but I do not get fatigue with native sample rate or 88.2/96/178.4/196 kHz upsample. 

 

These are the settings on the DA8: Slow filter for PCM.  50kHz filter for DSD.  Jitter Eliminator OFF.  Pure DAC mode.  Using Yulong's ASIO drivers in JRiver.

 

I am wondering what people's experiences are with upsampling in various rates in PCM and DSD.

post #956 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post

P.S. How many hours the DA8 needs to break-in?

Hello Esprit,

I had to wait more than 350 hours to get it.:smile: 


Edited by teiki arii - 1/17/14 at 10:34pm
post #957 of 1394
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
So basically your preamp sucks.

No, I use always my preamp (Bryston). Is, here, a different sound of the DA8

post #958 of 1394
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

I am pretty sure that if you are doing this than you are just double amping it if you are doing this.  I think that should burn in fully after about 100hours.

The volume of DA8 is digital (it attenuates), there is no amplification from the XLR.

post #959 of 1394
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Originally Posted by teiki arii View Post
 

Hello Esprit,

I had to wait more than 350 hours to get it.:smile: 

TNX :smile:
I've just covered with tape the USB pins (5V & ground) on the Monoprice I'm using now.
The DA8 has now 100 hours (it plays all the night).
It's hard to belive for me but I think, it seems to me, IMHO, etc, etc... that the DA8 is a better DAC (in my system, with my ears, etc, etc...) than the Mytek (I still have...)

post #960 of 1394

To the Mac users: in Audio MIDI setup I can change the sample rate but I cannot change the volume.
Is it correct?
To all: on the DA8 display I read DSD, when I'm playing DSD files, but not the sample rate (64 or 128).
Same question as above...

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