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post #781 of 1596

Just updated my DA8 drivers and I am pleased to see that ASIO is working as it should now with DSD .iso discs and .dsf/dff tracks :) I still have a slight stutter at 2 seconds into a new track, but I think that is on my end.


Edited by brunk - 12/24/13 at 2:07pm
post #782 of 1596
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 
I say reformat your computer, re-install windows fresh as well as all your drivers and then install the DA8. I can guarantee you that itll fix it, if of course the DA8 isnt faulty.

LOL.  And if THAT doesn't work, jump out of the window.

 

Transitioning between tracks on ISO image is not completely gapless for me either, individual dsf files play fine. Try increasing that palyback buffer I was mentioning before, I have mine at 10MB. My money is that reading big file takes a bit and may cause some stuttering esp. if media is not fast or disk is fragmented. After OS buffers it, once you play it back, it should not causing the pops. Experiment, try to play same file multiple times in a row to see if consecutive playbacks are problematic as the first one or not. 

post #783 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 
I say reformat your computer, re-install windows fresh as well as all your drivers and then install the DA8. I can guarantee you that itll fix it, if of course the DA8 isnt faulty.

LOL.  And if THAT doesn't work, jump out of the window.

 

Transitioning between tracks on ISO image is not completely gapless for me either, individual dsf files play fine. Try increasing that palyback buffer I was mentioning before, I have mine at 10MB. My money is that reading big file takes a bit and may cause some stuttering esp. if media is not fast or disk is fragmented. After OS buffers it, once you play it back, it should not causing the pops. Experiment, try to play same file multiple times in a row to see if consecutive playbacks are problematic as the first one or not. 

Lol, Id literally ignite myself if that didnt fix the problem. 

 

 

ISO image files are gapless for me, it may take 1.5 secs to start but once it starts I dont get any shutters. I have a 500gig SSD, SSD obviously helps quite a bit. Still, I can stick my 2TB external HD equipped with USB 3.0 and play everything just fine without any skipping, weird noises, or audio cutting off.


Edited by DarKen23 - 12/24/13 at 4:30pm
post #784 of 1596
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 
I say reformat your computer, re-install windows fresh as well as all your drivers and then install the DA8. I can guarantee you that itll fix it, if of course the DA8 isnt faulty.

LOL.  And if THAT doesn't work, jump out of the window.

 

Transitioning between tracks on ISO image is not completely gapless for me either, individual dsf files play fine. Try increasing that palyback buffer I was mentioning before, I have mine at 10MB. My money is that reading big file takes a bit and may cause some stuttering esp. if media is not fast or disk is fragmented. After OS buffers it, once you play it back, it should not causing the pops. Experiment, try to play same file multiple times in a row to see if consecutive playbacks are problematic as the first one or not. 

Lol, Id literally ignite myself if that didnt fix the problem. 

 

 

ISO image files are gapless for me, it may take 1.5 secs to start but once it starts I dont get any shutters. I have a 500gig SSD, SSD obviously helps quite a bit. Still, I can stick my 2TB external HD equipped with USB 3.0 and play everything just fine without any skipping, weird noises, or audio cutting off.

JRiver uses memory playback by default, thus 1.5 sec delay when it buffers it up.

post #785 of 1596

Will do, the last thing I want is to send it back. Really enjoying this DAC and I don't really listen to my DSD files. I just wanted to try it to make sure everything was smooth.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 

I say reformat your computer, re-install windows fresh as well as all your drivers and then install the DA8. I can guarantee you that itll fix it, if of course the DA8 isnt faulty.

 

Ok, will do!

 

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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

LOL.  And if THAT doesn't work, jump out of the window.

 

Transitioning between tracks on ISO image is not completely gapless for me either, individual dsf files play fine. Try increasing that palyback buffer I was mentioning before, I have mine at 10MB. My money is that reading big file takes a bit and may cause some stuttering esp. if media is not fast or disk is fragmented. After OS buffers it, once you play it back, it should not causing the pops. Experiment, try to play same file multiple times in a row to see if consecutive playbacks are problematic as the first one or not. 

 

Happy holidays everyone!

post #786 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

LOL.  And if THAT doesn't work, jump out of the window.

 

Transitioning between tracks on ISO image is not completely gapless for me either, individual dsf files play fine. Try increasing that palyback buffer I was mentioning before, I have mine at 10MB. My money is that reading big file takes a bit and may cause some stuttering esp. if media is not fast or disk is fragmented. After OS buffers it, once you play it back, it should not causing the pops. Experiment, try to play same file multiple times in a row to see if consecutive playbacks are problematic as the first one or not. 

If that doesn't work, then its time to throw out the windows machine and get a mac!  No drivers, no problems  ;)

post #787 of 1596
Thread Starter 

I just picked up a newish laptop for my wife. Dell running Windows 7 (not ready to mess with 8 yet, and this laptop doesn't have a touch screen so why bother?). Decently fast i5, 8GB RAM, fast SSD. On a fresh install of Windows and Foobar, I actually heard stuttering and static through multiple DACs including the DA8. Wiped the drive and started fresh, now it works perfectly. I didn't do anything different as far as settings the second time around.... it just worked better on its own after the reinstall.

 

Meanwhile, another laptop we have is getting long in the tooth as far as specs.... i3, 4GB RAM, older 5400rpm HD.... and it has had many DAC drivers installed/uninstalled over the past few years. This thing never gives me a single hiccup. 

 

Sometimes computers are random. And frustrating. Hopefully everyone gets theirs figured out the way the want. 

post #788 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Viper2005 View Post
 
 

If that doesn't work, then its time to throw out the windows machine and get a mac!  No drivers, no problems  ;)

You know that DSD256 and DSD512 are only supported on Windows. Not like I saw any material in that resolution yet, just saying. :p

post #789 of 1596

With a very very very & very powerfull PC and the right software you can upsample from DSD64 or DSD128 to DSD256 and/or DSD512 :rolleyes:;)

post #790 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

From Yulong (if someone is registered in the JRiver forum he can post there the link...):

 

"Thank you, please try new driver 1.057 and asio updated available:

 

http://yulongaudio.com/Files/others/JR%20iver%20New%20asio.zip

 

the setup is a full one, it installs automatically 32bit or 64bit version and ASIO support too.

It can require to remove from the control panel a previous Asio installed.

I think it can solve the problem depicted on the forum.

Merry Christmas"

 

I installed this new driver. JRiver Media Center now is able to play PCM files using the DA8 ASIO driver.

 

Esprit, when I went to the JRiver thread for this issue to post the link, I saw that you already have done it. I updated the thread with the results of the new ASIO driver.

 

Happy Holidays

post #791 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

With a very very very & very powerfull PC and the right software you can upsample from DSD64 or DSD128 to DSD256 and/or DSD512 :rolleyes:;)

 

The foo_dsd_asio proxy can be configured to upsample PCM to DSD64, DSD128, DSD256 and DSD512. There are many options for the algorithm used for the upsampling. I did not get good results with DSD256 and DSD512. I have a powerful computer that I believe can handle the upsampling tasks.

Depending the algorithm chosen the sound quality ranges from terribly distorted to OK with some strange noises.

post #792 of 1596

I remembered, afterwards, that I had posted on that forum about JRiver (Mac version) and the Mytek.

post #793 of 1596
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

I just picked up a newish laptop for my wife. Dell running Windows 7 (not ready to mess with 8 yet, and this laptop doesn't have a touch screen so why bother?). Decently fast i5, 8GB RAM, fast SSD. On a fresh install of Windows and Foobar, I actually heard stuttering and static through multiple DACs including the DA8. Wiped the drive and started fresh, now it works perfectly. I didn't do anything different as far as settings the second time around.... it just worked better on its own after the reinstall.

 

Meanwhile, another laptop we have is getting long in the tooth as far as specs.... i3, 4GB RAM, older 5400rpm HD.... and it has had many DAC drivers installed/uninstalled over the past few years. This thing never gives me a single hiccup. 

 

Sometimes computers are random. And frustrating. Hopefully everyone gets theirs figured out the way the want. 

 

Picking up a fresh copy of windows 7 from my buddy tomorrow. Will reformat and reinstall everything and keep you guys updated. 

post #794 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Angelbelow View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

I just picked up a newish laptop for my wife. Dell running Windows 7 (not ready to mess with 8 yet, and this laptop doesn't have a touch screen so why bother?). Decently fast i5, 8GB RAM, fast SSD. On a fresh install of Windows and Foobar, I actually heard stuttering and static through multiple DACs including the DA8. Wiped the drive and started fresh, now it works perfectly. I didn't do anything different as far as settings the second time around.... it just worked better on its own after the reinstall.

 

Meanwhile, another laptop we have is getting long in the tooth as far as specs.... i3, 4GB RAM, older 5400rpm HD.... and it has had many DAC drivers installed/uninstalled over the past few years. This thing never gives me a single hiccup. 

 

Sometimes computers are random. And frustrating. Hopefully everyone gets theirs figured out the way the want. 

 

Picking up a fresh copy of windows 7 from my buddy tomorrow. Will reformat and reinstall everything and keep you guys updated. 

...I dont get it. If you are picking up a 'fresh' copy of windows from a friend then it isnt a fresh copy. Are you planning on using a 'fresh' disc and then applying your windows key? Or is he providing you with a key as well along with the copy?

 

The reason I ask is because it should be a concern to you. If you had plans of using a hacked or a already 'registered' windows key, I would suggest not to do that. Using a already registered windows key will cause all sorts of problems on your drivers, boards, and everywhere else because you will not be able to download and install the random and periodic 'windows updates' properly.

 

For that reason, I opted to have my laptop to be shipped with no OS and purchased a windows 7 separately. When you purchase a computer or laptop from a store, generally it will have windows pre-installed. This means that the windows key which is labeled underneath or around the pc can only be used for that specific pc, you cannot use that same key if you decide to get a new pc say 10 years later.


Edited by DarKen23 - 12/25/13 at 6:17pm
post #795 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Elder View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

With a very very very & very powerfull PC and the right software you can upsample from DSD64 or DSD128 to DSD256 and/or DSD512 :rolleyes:;)

 

The foo_dsd_asio proxy can be configured to upsample PCM to DSD64, DSD128, DSD256 and DSD512. There are many options for the algorithm used for the upsampling. I did not get good results with DSD256 and DSD512. I have a powerful computer that I believe can handle the upsampling tasks.

Depending the algorithm chosen the sound quality ranges from terribly distorted to OK with some strange noises.

*Proxy* just passes PCM through, thus the name. Unless I don't know something, please elaborate.

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