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post #736 of 1596

Having the DAC connected directly to amps or monitors, IMHO, it could be a problem: I'm playing music, I'm using the knob, I press it and I get 0dB volume? :L3000:
Is it correct?

I have a Mytek and the "bypass mode" is under the menu with an alert on the display...

post #737 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

Having the DAC connected directly to amps or monitors, IMHO, it could be a problem: I'm playing music, I'm using the knob, I press it and I get 0dB volume? :L3000:
Is it correct?

I have a Mytek and the "bypass mode" is under the menu with an alert on the display...

LOL

 

post #738 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

Having the DAC connected directly to amps or monitors, IMHO, it could be a problem: I'm playing music, I'm using the knob, I press it and I get 0dB volume? :L3000:
Is it correct?

I have a Mytek and the "bypass mode" is under the menu with an alert on the display...

 

 

Yep, it's a potential problem I guess.... but not one I've ever encountered. Just don't fumble haphazardly for the knob and you should be ok. It doesn't have a hair trigger either - the knob requires a bit of pressure to push, so I really just don't see it being an issue. 


Edited by project86 - 12/20/13 at 9:07pm
post #739 of 1596
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Yep, it's a potential problem I guess.... but not one I've ever encountered. Just don't fumble haphazardly for the knob and you should be ok. It doesn't have a hair trigger either - the knob requires a bit of pressure to push, so I really just don't see it being an issue. 

That's good to hear.  I've been wondering how sensitive the knob is to push/toggle.  Thanks for that.

post #740 of 1596
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Yep, it's a potential problem I guess.... but not one I've ever encountered. Just don't fumble haphazardly for the knob and you should be ok. It doesn't have a hair trigger either - the knob requires a bit of pressure to push, so I really just don't see it being an issue. 

That's good to hear.  I've been wondering how sensitive the knob is to push/toggle.  Thanks for that.

Ive personally never had a problem nor have I ever worried that I might somehow toggle the button. I just 


Edited by DarKen23 - 12/21/13 at 2:58am
post #741 of 1596
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If DSD is the only problem, check all the settings with your media player--make sure the media player is outputting the signal through ASIO or WASAPI, if all is correct double check your buffer settings.

 

No problems here. Listening to Adele's live performance "Live At The Royal Albert Hall", DA8's sound stage + Well recorded live album = Win :cool:

 

Double checked everything and still getting the lag/popping noises on the DSD files. The popping occurs when starting the track, or fast forwarding.

 

The audio quality itself is amazing with the DSD.

 

To be more transparent: Using Foobar2k. Audioquest forrest USB cable for connection. Maybe I will try winamp with WASAPI next to see if the problem is still there.

post #742 of 1596
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 

If DSD is the only problem, check all the settings with your media player--make sure the media player is outputting the signal through ASIO or WASAPI, if all is correct double check your buffer settings.

 

No problems here. Listening to Adele's live performance "Live At The Royal Albert Hall", DA8's sound stage + Well recorded live album = Win :cool:

 

Double checked everything and still getting the lag/popping noises on the DSD files. The popping occurs when starting the track, or fast forwarding.

 

The audio quality itself is amazing with the DSD.

 

To be more transparent: Using Foobar2k. Audioquest forrest USB cable for connection. Maybe I will try winamp with WASAPI next to see if the problem is still there.

If you really wanted to, send it back Im sure the unit is covered under warranty. Did you go through Grants? 

 

I highly highly suggest swapping out that usb cable, Audioquest's higher end usb cables dont have a problem but the lower end models are horrid. Ive experience some really funky issues using Audioquest cables.

Even a printer usb cable will do better. Swapping out the cable just might be the solution to your issue.

post #743 of 1596
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It's worth it to swap cables just to eliminate that as a possible cause. Also worth it to investigate other playback software, and mess with the drivers too. Sometimes an old USB Audio driver left in your system can cause trouble for the current device. A safe bet is to try a completely different computer - maybe borrow a laptop from a friend or something - and see if the problem persists.

post #744 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Angelbelow View Post
 
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 

If DSD is the only problem, check all the settings with your media player--make sure the media player is outputting the signal through ASIO or WASAPI, if all is correct double check your buffer settings.

 

No problems here. Listening to Adele's live performance "Live At The Royal Albert Hall", DA8's sound stage + Well recorded live album = Win :cool:

 

Double checked everything and still getting the lag/popping noises on the DSD files. The popping occurs when starting the track, or fast forwarding.

 

The audio quality itself is amazing with the DSD.

 

To be more transparent: Using Foobar2k. Audioquest forrest USB cable for connection. Maybe I will try winamp with WASAPI next to see if the problem is still there.

Try to play with ASIO buffer, try enabling file buffering in Foobar/Advanced/Playback section, or if it's already set to too high, set to 0. I am not sure fast forward ever works with DSD but I did experience some lags or pops on beginning of the tracks with material located on external (not the fastest) HDD, usually after OS buffers it, same file plays fine.

But I don't completely discount the possibility of the problem with your unit, contact Yulong or Grant Fidelity (if you get it from there) to help you with troubleshooting.


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 12/21/13 at 10:16am
post #745 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Angelbelow View Post
 

 

Double checked everything and still getting the lag/popping noises on the DSD files. The popping occurs when starting the track, or fast forwarding.

 

The audio quality itself is amazing with the DSD.

 

To be more transparent: Using Foobar2k. Audioquest forrest USB cable for connection. Maybe I will try winamp with WASAPI next to see if the problem is still there.

 

Sounds like your unit is defective in the same way this guy's was. Apparently Yulong asked them to send it back in.

 

They still haven't solved the JRiver/DA8 ASIO incompatibility issue, though, also mentioned in the same thread. :(

post #746 of 1596
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Yep, it's a potential problem I guess.... but not one I've ever encountered. Just don't fumble haphazardly for the knob and you should be ok. It doesn't have a hair trigger either - the knob requires a bit of pressure to push, so I really just don't see it being an issue. 

A future firmware upgrade? :rolleyes: 

post #747 of 1596
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A future firmware upgrade? :rolleyes: 

 

I suppose they could add something layer of safeguard if enough users thought it was necessary. Honestly I don't see the problem. I'm about as likely to accidentally crank the knob all the way to full blast, as I am to push the knob when I don't intend to. 

post #748 of 1596

The Yulong has not the remote.

Did you ever tried "the human remote"[*] (wife, sons, friends...)? :biggrin: 

 

[*] It is high-tech: works only with vocal commands.


Edited by Esprit - 12/21/13 at 2:46pm
post #749 of 1596
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
 

The Yulong has not the remote.

Did you ever tried "the human remote"[*] (wife, sons, friends...)? :biggrin: 

 

[*] It is high-tech: works only with vocal commands.

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post #750 of 1596

A friend of mine received the Yulong DA8 a few days ago now the PC no longer sees the DAC, it seems to be a problem like this: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=119186.0

:confused_face_2:

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