Originally Posted by Elder
Excellent review. Thank you Project for the detailed and honest presentation.
I wonder how the DA8 compares to the Invicta.
A comparison to the Mytek (which uses a different Sabre chip) would be interesting, too.
Yulong goal was to create a DAC to be better than the Weiss DAC202.
Did he accomplish it? The measurements may show better figures but what about the SQ?
DA8 is not on the same level as the Invicta. I love both but Invicta remains my reference, in the grand scheme of things it is higher up. DA8 may compete with some DACs costing 2 or 3 times its price, but so does Invicta. But it's the type of thing where you don't really know what your missing until you hear the better model.
I have very little experience with the DAC202. It wouldn't surprise me if the DA8 sounded better, but I really couldn't say. I recall the Weiss being more clinical.
For the Mytek - I have it on good authority that their device (using the ES9016 which is not seen very often compared to ES9018) is one of the worst measuring implementations of a Sabre DAC. This is not from Yulong but another designer who knows a thing or two about the chips, and measured the Mytek with his Audio Precision rig. It was so bad that they stopped looking into what might be wrong with it.
I know a lot of people enjoy the Mytek, and I have no explanation as to why they love it but others hate it. All I can say is I prefer the DA8 by a large margin.
Originally Posted by Esprit
have you tested Yulong and Matrix with speakers?
Yes, but my speaker rig is not as resolving as my headphones. I use the X-Sabre with the AURALiC Taurus over XLR, feeding a NuForce STA-100 and driving Sjofn (the clue) monitors. It's a nice musical system, very involving, but not the last word in details due to my room being terrible. I connect the DA8 via RCA and switch back and forth, and in this system it's pretty much even. Matrix has slightly larger soundstage, more "out of speaker", while DA8 is more precise with imaging.