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post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by D3Seeker View Post

They need to improve the Z. Give it an SD card slot, HD screen, Tegra 4 of snapdragon  600 + and improve on the Dac and amp and they'd have a killer. It will never happen though. Someone would literally have to go knocking on their door with a some serious $$$$$$ and propose a personally made device. frown.gif
 Thus My perfect PMP will never exist (all thanks to the normal people. angry_face.gif
They have! It's called Xperia Z and its also a phone and 13mp camera. Seriously, I can't fault my XZ vs my WMZ except the volume could be a shade better with some of my higher impedance IEMs.
post #17 of 32

^ The Xperia Z last I read was not that great audio wise, But those impressions I read could have been misleading. I certainly wasn't under the impression by anything said here that it was notable.

 

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Originally Posted by Aevum View Post

Tegra NO.... tegra based devices are famous for their horrible sound quality,

 

And why would you need something as powerful as a spandragon 600 ?

 

Wouldnt it be better to use a cheaper ARM like a mediatek MT6589T and then implement on the side a independent sound circuit..

 

You want a wanking device thats totaly overpowered for a PMP.

 

No! I want a do it all device with dedicated sound circuit, that, unlike EVERYTHING ELSE, isn't lopsided and can actually do everything well. Audio Video and everything in between, unlike most of the people here (who are only focused on the audio) and the general population (with are fine with a nice screen and performance)

 

And I guess the tegra was a fancy at one point be I'd have to try a Mediatek device before I ever consider such.


Edited by D3Seeker - 8/19/13 at 2:07pm
post #18 of 32
Thread Starter 

Sony needs to remove the walkman branding from future DAPs because some ppl might think its too retro.(And the name is too old too)

 

Introduce some higher capacity players with atleast micro-sd/sd support.

 

High resolution display.

 

Stop android and come out with a better UI than what they had in the A series. It was just too simple.

 

The player should be the size of something inbetween the F & Z series. (Z screen size being the max. F was too small in size)

 

Support most music files.

 

Aluminium body/housing.

 

Keep the Drag & Drop (That the best thing about the current line-up)

 

Is that too much I'm asking?

post #19 of 32
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Originally Posted by AUDIOBREEDER View Post

Sony needs to remove the walkman branding from future DAPs because some ppl might think its too retro.(And the name is too old too)

 

Introduce some higher capacity players with atleast micro-sd/sd support.

 

High resolution display.

 

Stop android and come out with a better UI than what they had in the A series. It was just too simple.

 

The player should be the size of something inbetween the F & Z series. (Z screen size being the max. F was too small in size)

 

Support most music files.

 

Aluminium body/housing.

 

Keep the Drag & Drop (That the best thing about the current line-up)

 

Is that too much I'm asking?


I vote that you head the particular PMP division at Sony and make many of us very happy. I will add the player must have dedicated forward/previous buttons on the outside next to the volume aka Cowon.

post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by D3Seeker View Post

^ The Xperia Z last I read was not that great audio wise, But those impressions I read could have been misleading. I certainly wasn't under the impression by anything said here that it was notable.

 

No! I want a do it all device with dedicated sound circuit, that, unlike EVERYTHING ELSE, isn't lopsided and can actually do everything well. Audio Video and everything in between, unlike most of the people here (who are only focused on the audio) and the general population (with are fine with a nice screen and performance)

 

And I guess the tegra was a fancy at one point be I'd have to try a Mediatek device before I ever consider such.

 

 

I chose Mediatek becuase they use cheap Cortex A7 arm cores which are easy to integrate and cheap, a MT8125 is more or less on par as a first gen tegra 3 processor, but is dirt cheap, this allows more resources to be spent on the audio circuitry, Cortex A7 processors also are more power efficient, meaning that unlike some devices, you wont have to settle for 6-8 hour battery life in exchange for decent quality.

post #21 of 32
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Originally Posted by Aevum View Post

 

 

I chose Mediatek becuase they use cheap Cortex A7 arm cores which are easy to integrate and cheap, a MT8125 is more or less on par as a first gen tegra 3 processor, but is dirt cheap, this allows more resources to be spent on the audio circuitry, Cortex A7 processors also are more power efficient, meaning that unlike some devices, you wont have to settle for 6-8 hour battery life in exchange for decent quality.

perhaps. As long as it performs. EVERY PMP to date has some terrible performance issue, and is terribly one sided in capability. Besides believe it or not some of us are power users.

 

Still a dream sadly either way


Edited by D3Seeker - 8/20/13 at 12:20pm
post #22 of 32

thats the thing, it provides decent performance (around 11-14k antutu) for a very low price.

post #23 of 32

Well it looks like it would do, the MT6589 asa starting point for a Personal Media Device made today. Make it happen Sony.

post #24 of 32

Sony need to make digital discman player. It will be their bomb.

post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by Aevum View Post

Tegra NO.... tegra based devices are famous for their horrible sound quality,

 

 

This isn't necessarily true.  The LG 2x and Motorola Atrix both had Wolfson DACs while using the Tegra 2 chipset.

post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by Cecala View Post


I vote that you head the particular PMP division at Sony and make many of us very happy. I will add the player must have dedicated forward/previous buttons on the outside next to the volume aka Cowon.

You know, dont think I forgot about the physical buttons, but since Sony makes everything portable in the sleekest way, the buttons would be hard to find & press. For eg. the A series has dedicated buttons but they are just too small, without you taking a look to see if you're pressing the right one. The X series was a bit weird esp. the hold button.

 

Maybe they should put the controls below the front screen.

 

With the ease of purchasing & syncing via itunes many many ppl have already setup accounts, purchased apple daps and doubt they will crossover to Sony. I'm pretty sure they would want to bounce back (after the success of walkmans & discmans), but they have to do something from start & not rush out with new players like the E which maybe slim & small, but thats not a reason to go out and buy one.

post #27 of 32

Cowon had the buttons more or less perfected right next to each other. I could over time if pushed, negate these controls although the real deal breaker for me is the lack of an expandable micro SD slot. Sony is the master of planned obsolescence and force the customer to upgrade far to often. I'm sure they leaned this from Microsoft.

I agree with the too small size being offered, the Z series for me, is perfect though.
 


Edited by Cecala - 8/26/13 at 7:03pm
post #28 of 32

Well, we have the F886 now, a step (or shall I say leap) in the right direction, albeit Sony's tendency of non expandable storage as of late::evil:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/680127/walkman-nwz-f886-officialy-announced-192khz-24bits/90#post_9781869 :gs1000smile:

 

And you know they had to go through the extra trouble considering androids audio limitation (same with the LG G2) so they are definitely still in our field, we just need to make it known somehow that storage needs attention on their part.

post #29 of 32

Oh Man, if only Sony added MicroSd expansion it would be perfect. Although that sexy prototype looks very interesting, due out Feb 2014.

post #30 of 32

I'm mystified as to how Sony can think that someone who listens to hi-res audio would buy a player without removable storage (or at least very large fixed storage). If I can buy 64GB of flash at retail for $40, why would I want a player with only 32GB.

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