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Originally Posted by musikaladin View Post


...the MM400 are surely supposed to be portable, besides the folding mechanism it even only comes with short cables for portable usage. Here a short review.


Yes I would say they are portable. They are intriguing. Amazon doesn't have them in or I would give them a listen. 

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I will chime in again on this mini discussion about the portablity of the Denon AH-MM400s having used them in various situations in the past days.

 

Whilst they are portable, i.e. convenient to transport/carry around, I would say they are not the best phones when it comes to using them on the move. As some have already mentioned, you will experience some microphonic annoyances. They are in my opinion absolutely not suited to walking and listening - I can here the sound of my footsteps reverberating up into the phones. Today I had them on and walked 100 meters across a square on a windy day and the wind howled through them. 

 

In short, they are portable (the word derives from the french "Porter" - to carry), but they are not the best for using whilst moving.

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I will chime in again on this mini discussion about the portablity of the Denon AH-MM400s having used them in various situations in the past days.

 

Whilst they are portable, i.e. convenient to transport/carry around, I would say they are not the best phones when it comes to using them on the move. As some have already mentioned, you will experience some microphonic annoyances. They are in my opinion absolutely not suited to walking and listening - I can here the sound of my footsteps reverberating up into the phones. Today I had them on and walked 100 meters across a square on a windy day and the wind howled through them. 

 

In short, they are portable (the word derives from the french "Porter" - to carry), but they are not the best for using whilst moving.

Fair enough~  Thanks for that. I am really really happy with the Momentum M2 and they truly are a great portable. Listening to the remastered Physical Graffiti presently as I type.....nice. Which is why I asked the question about them being truly portable. I have the Fidelio X2 I am using presently at home for listening.

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Originally Posted by DanMUC View Post
 

I will chime in again on this mini discussion about the portablity of the Denon AH-MM400s having used them in various situations in the past days.

 

Whilst they are portable, i.e. convenient to transport/carry around, I would say they are not the best phones when it comes to using them on the move. As some have already mentioned, you will experience some microphonic annoyances. They are in my opinion absolutely not suited to walking and listening - I can here the sound of my footsteps reverberating up into the phones. Today I had them on and walked 100 meters across a square on a windy day and the wind howled through them. 

 

In short, they are portable (the word derives from the french "Porter" - to carry), but they are not the best for using whilst moving.

Whilst I do get a little bit of microphonics from the cable, I haven't really experienced any of the other annoyances you've mentioned... In comparison to my p7's I actually find them better whilst out and about as they're lower profile on the head and the headband is also more grippy so they can't slip off your head as easily if you look down. Isolation might be a hair worse but it's still great. I definitely haven't noticed the sound of my footsteps while walking around with them inside or out, they're dead silent in that respect (had a really big walk with them outside today, they were great - isolation was good enough I couldn't hear the cars on the busy roads I walked down either).

 

Can't really comment on wind as I haven't really had a chance to try them in a windy day yet but after owning the sony mdr 1r's where the wind whistles across the bass ports (it's really, really loud!) I doubt I would even notice any other wind noise...

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Let's play The Recommendation Game (not starring Benedict Cumberbatch)! 

I want a satisfying portable headphone but have yet to find one that lives up to my requirements. Here are my experiences with what I've tried/owned:

Nad HP50: Best sounding portable I've tried. Great bass and mids. Lack a bit of high-treble presence but I could very much live with the sound. Too funky looking, bulky and not comfortable enough though. So it's a no. 
Sennheiser Momentum original: A bit loose in the bass and a bit tizzy in the mid-treble. 
B&W P7: Not neutral enough, too U-shaped and with mid-bass bloom. 

Focal Spirit Classic & Spirit Pro: Good tonality but a bit boxy sounding. Tacky build and not comfortable to me.

Focal Spirit One: Like above, only worse. 
Sony MDR-1R: Great tonality and resolution once damping- and port-modded. Not enough deep bass though. 

KEF M500: Balanced if the fit is right but a bit hard sounding.  

Sennheiser Amperior: Too bright 
Sennheiser HD25-1 (not 1-II): Can't quite recall, sounded pretty good I think but very hard to find. 

 

I'm looking for an Oppo PM1-ish tonality (smooth, potent but not excessive bass and warm/relaxed tone). I'm looking for a headphone that is comfortable and not too plasticy. I'm looking for something (preferably) that can be damping modded. Looks aren't a priority other than that I don't want to look dumb in public. 

Does anyone have a recommendation based on these requests? 

 

Thanks everyone! 

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I'm looking for an Oppo PM1-ish tonality (smooth, potent but not excessive bass and warm/relaxed tone). I'm looking for a headphone that is comfortable and not too plasticy. I'm looking for something (preferably) that can be damping modded. Looks aren't a priority other than that I don't want to look dumb in public. 


Does anyone have a recommendation based on these requests? 

Thanks everyone! 
Yes, I modded my Thinksound on1 to push the bass back a few dB and correct a slight midbass dip with good results, they are very dynamic with great bass punch and are fairly resolving overall. The treble is of a lesser quality than the rest of the spectrum but not really lackluster and is well extended, sibilant tracks can become a problem if you don't use some sort of front-damping. They are very comfortable for me but YMMV. They fold flat and fit into a 7" tablet case. Compared to other mid-fi pairs I've heard (modded T50RP, K7XX, DT250-250, DT990 Pro, Momentum on-ear) they hold their own in various aspects, so they are not clearly inferior despite being a portable pair with a small-ish driver.

They just dropped to $200 USD from $250.
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Let's play The Recommendation Game (not starring Benedict Cumberbatch)! 

I'm looking for an Oppo PM1-ish tonality (smooth, potent but not excessive bass and warm/relaxed tone). I'm looking for a headphone that is comfortable and not too plasticy. I'm looking for something (preferably) that can be damping modded. Looks aren't a priority other than that I don't want to look dumb in public. 


Does anyone have a recommendation based on these requests? 

Thanks everyone! 

I am in a similar position, and agree with your descriptions. Particularly the B&W and the Momentum. However I wouldn't say I am looking for a warm presentation. I own the KEF M500 and like them, as they are almost neutral compared to the others and much more musical. However I would like them to have a little more resolution and a bit more spritely in a musical sense. I am coming from HD800 & AKG K550, which you may find bright, on not?

With this in mind I borrowed the more portable K545, and while they have many of the qualities of the K550, they do not look as ridiculous as their big brother even on my big mellon head. However there is a tilt towards the bass compared to the K550, so you may enjoy them.

Of course the new momentums should be better than before but I'm yet to try them. Unfortunately it looks like they have done the commercial bass hump again. Very un-Sennheiser.

Also the B&O H6 are good, but I'd rather stick to the K545 or KEF.

Of course the Oppo PM-3 may be what we both want...
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What's your (the accepted) criteria that must be met to earn the definition of portable?

 

These cans fold up - that alone in my book makes them portable.

 


Jeez, those are real nice looking cans. If that's real wood, I may need to try them just on looks alone and even knowing Denon hasn't delivered lately. I'm a sucker for woodies (get your heads out of the gutter).

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I am in a similar position, and agree with your descriptions. Particularly the B&W and the Momentum. However I wouldn't say I am looking for a warm presentation. I own the KEF M500 and like them, as they are almost neutral compared to the others and much more musical. However I would like them to have a little more resolution and a bit more spritely in a musical sense. I am coming from HD800 & AKG K550, which you may find bright, on not?

With this in mind I borrowed the more portable K545, and while they have many of the qualities of the K550, they do not look as ridiculous as their big brother even on my big mellon head. However there is a tilt towards the bass compared to the K550, so you may enjoy them.

Of course the new momentums should be better than before but I'm yet to try them. Unfortunately it looks like they have done the commercial bass hump again. Very un-Sennheiser.

Also the B&O H6 are good, but I'd rather stick to the K545 or KEF.

Of course the Oppo PM-3 may be what we both want...


Hi! 

 

I would actually call the KEF a somewhat warm headphone. It's a bit odd though in that the treble hardness/sheen makes it sound colder than it actually is at times. At least this was my experience with it.

 

Warm for me does not necessarily equal colored or unnatural though. For me, a natural sound has warmth. Not overly warm as where there is a bump in frequency response, but warm as in having an organic quality. I consider the likes of the HD 800 and B&O H6 to lack that organic quality, which makes instruments and voices sound dull and anemic. The KEF is actually a little warmer than natural to my ears as it has some bass emphasis that thickens male vocals slightly. 

And yes, I definitely consider the HD 800 and AKG K550 to be on the brighter side of things. :) Same goes with the H6. 

The PM3 is definitely interesting as you say. Would like to try the new Momentum as well. 


Edited by Lan647 - 3/3/15 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by DanMUC View Post

 
What's your (the accepted) criteria that must be met to earn the definition of portable?

These cans fold up - that alone in my book makes them portable.




Jeez, those are real nice looking cans. If that's real wood, I may need to try them just on looks alone and even knowing Denon hasn't delivered lately. I'm a sucker for woodies (get your heads out of the gutter).

....sure, that's real wood appearantly walnut. Some more info about the wood here...
Edited by musikaladin - 3/3/15 at 5:07pm
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However I would like them to have a little more resolution and a bit more spritely in a musical sense. I am coming from HD800 & AKG K550, which you may find bright, on not?
Maybe the ATH-MSR7 Tyll just reviewed fit the bill?
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

I think you'll need to listen to some other closed headphones

so as to obtain other references than the AE2's.

 

If that can be done at a friend's home, let''s say,

that would be better than listening in a crowded

noisy store.  A quiet audio store IME is hard to find.

 

Or you can buy a very good set of closed headphones.

Keep in mind that very few closed headphones image

well.  Many retailers allow returns.

I plan to go to CanJam this month.  I just couldn't really wait and bought the M1.  I like them though.  The cup size isn't a issue really.  For $180 I think they are best headphone you can probably get under $200.  But I have not reference for that claim but from what I read it would seem so.

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I had those for a while.  Not bad at all.

 

IMO the important thing is that you enjoy

them; the way they sound and fit.

 

 

Cheers

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Thread Starter 

Sorry I've been a bit late on the on-ear review of the Momentum 2s, but things have been really crazy recently and I've got my in-laws staying with me this weekend. I should have it up next week. But a quick preview, I found the over-ear Momentum 2s a revolution over the previous version and the on-ears are more of an "evolution", but improved nonetheless.

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Loks like I have been thwarted in my desire to get either the Oppo PM3 (not available to UK dealers yet) or the Momentum 2.0 (amazon f'd up the delivery) before my vacation... grumble grumble

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