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post #1996 of 2517
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Very cool indeed. This youtube provides a pretty good overview fwiw:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSu7-WXTSk

 

When mobile, are you using it with your phone? If so, how are you keeping them together?

Pretty good. The leather case comes with a fabric band that holds it to your iPhone.

post #1997 of 2517
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Tru dat. I was expecting to see that it's a $1000 dac or something! But, head-fi has warped my perception of "freaking expensive" lol

 

Big spender.  :tongue:

 

 

Hey, $300 is still a lot of money.  You can get a new HE400 with that cash.

 

I'm not saying this little amp is not worth it...it ain't cheap though.

post #1998 of 2517
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Pretty good. The leather case comes with a fabric band that holds it to your iPhone.

 

Macedonian, have you heard the Fiio E7?  If so, how does it compare to the Beyer amp?

post #1999 of 2517
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

Big spender.  :tongue:

 

Hey, $300 is still a lot of money.  You can get a new HE400 with that cash.

 

I'm not saying this little amp is not worth it...it ain't cheap though.

 

Well, I'd find it for less just like MH did :)  

 

Also, it could conceivably replace a high quality laptop dac and/or a portable dap which people spend a lot of money on. So you could instead spend $250 on a great quality dac/amp that could be hooked up to all of your gear and end up saving a lot of dough. So for some people, it could make a lot of sense!

post #2000 of 2517
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Macedonian, have you heard the Fiio E7?  If so, how does it compare to the Beyer amp?

I've got the E11 and it's quite good. The big advantage with the A200P is that it replaces the cruddy DAC in your iDevice or Android phone and replaces it with a great Wolfson option. Plus the A200P has more headroom. I haven't heard the E7 though.

post #2001 of 2517
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I've got the E11 and it's quite good. The big advantage with the A200P is that it replaces the cruddy DAC in your iDevice or Android phone and replaces it with a great Wolfson option. Plus the A200P has more headroom. I haven't heard the E7 though.

 

 

Thanks.  Maybe after the tax return comes in...

post #2002 of 2517
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Big spender.  tongue.gif


Hey, $300 is still a lot of money.  You can get a new HE400 with that cash.

I'm not saying this little amp is not worth it...it ain't cheap though.

$300 can buy me 300 meals! And that's 100 days! xD welcome to Brunei xP

And yeah, I'm thinking of X5 or DX90 too hehe
post #2003 of 2517

So - I couldn't find time to get to the Headphone Bar yesterday, but I plan on going this Friday for sure.

 

Here's hoping that either the K545/845 or the NAD VISO HP50 are what I'm looking for. From the sound of it, either could have better sound, but the K545/845 will likely have better comfort due to the headband.

 

I'll also try the V-MODA XS and KEF M500 if I can. Though, being on ear, I can't help but think I may not like them as much.

 

Ah well, wish me luck!

 

PS: Looking forward to your impressions on the K545, MH!

post #2004 of 2517
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So - I couldn't find time to get to the Headphone Bar yesterday, but I plan on going this Friday for sure.

 

Here's hoping that either the K545/845 or the NAD VISO HP50 are what I'm looking for. From the sound of it, either could have better sound, but the K545/845 will likely have better comfort due to the headband.

 

I'll also try the V-MODA XS and KEF M500 if I can. Though, being on ear, I can't help but think I may not like them as much.

 

Ah well, wish me luck!

 

PS: Looking forward to your impressions on the K545, MH!

I'm looking forward to find out which headphone meets your needs the most.  Hopefully you will find a winner.  Good luck!!

post #2005 of 2517

So - I'm back...

 

... And I've got me a new headphone. The AKG K845BT.

 

I got to the Headphone Bar in Vancouver, BC around 1:30pm or so, and immediately tried out the K845BT's, which struck me as being a bit more stiff than what I was expecting. (Pose-ability-wise)The pads were soft, and overall, comfort was very nice - after demoing them for about 30 minutes, I didn't feel as if I would get tired of wearing them or get headaches, the pads are deep enough and weight is dispersed well.

 

Then curiosity struck.

 


 

Rather than turn this into a long winded "TL;DR" post, I'll give some points of note on all the headphones I tried during my 2+ hours at the awesome little boutique store.

 

V-MODA XS

  • Even though I knew it would be small, it still surprised me with how small it was.
  • Sound was very clear throughout.
  • Highs didn't extend as far as I would like.
  • Mid-range was less recessed than the M-100's, but just barely.
  • Bass was still the most powerful frequency, and while controlled, it still overwhelmed the other frequencies on songs with too much of it.
  • Build quality was excellent.
  • "Mind the Gap" is more than just a statement. Pressure was much more evenly distributed and the headband was much more comfortable as a result. (Compared to V-MODA's other headphone headbands)
  • Comfortable for an on-ear, but that's about it. Still not as comfortable as a circumaural.

M-100 (Re-Demo)

  • Tried these again to see if my impressions held true. For the most part, they did.
  • Clarity was still there in all the frequencies, but the V-shaped sound signature made itself present whenever there was a song with more than just a touch of bass. 
  • Due to the recessed nature of the Mid-range, details within it were often overshadowed.
  • Comfort was better than I remember, but that is likely due to it being a demo unit. My head began hurting towards the end of the session.
  • Again, V-MODA build quality and form factor are great. 

KEF M500

  • The surprise of the bunch, very good comfort for an on ear headphone - better than the V-MODA XS.
  • Headband was also comfortable, likely due to wider nature. Pressure was evenly distributed.
  • The softest ear-pads I had the pleasure of having on my ears today. Seriously, how did KEF get them that soft?
  • Sound was slightly (just barely) grainy, but warm and balanced. No specific frequency stuck out too much.
  • Sound isolation was nothing to write home about, but sound leakage was much better than expected.
  • Tested the leakage by placing them on a Marshal Headphones box and turning up the sound until I could hear it in the rather quiet store. I had to turn it up to 85%+ before I heard any noticeable leakage.
  • Great on-the-go portable headphone overall, but definitely not something to use on a bus or transit. (Bad isolation)

NAD VISO HP50

  • Biggest disappointment of the bunch. (If only for the reason that I could not test them at all.)
  • Right pad sealed fine against my head, but the left pad could not seal at all. Only the top of the pad touched my head, whereas the bottom half was a good cm away from touching skin. I am unsure if this was a problem with that particular unit, or my head.
  • I was told that they simply don't fit me, but I find that odd. It's the first headphone I've ever had this problem with. 

 


 

Finally, I went back to retry the K845BT to confirm my thoughts on it, as well as to compare it against the other headphones I had tried. I liked it,  to say the least.

 

AKG K845BT

  • My first thought - build-wise - when I tried them was "hollow."  They felt very sturdy, yet very light, as if they were made of hollow metal. This may sound weird, but it's the best way I can explain my first impressions of these headphones
  • My ears fit comfortably into the cups, and did not touch the insides as I have seen some people complain about. 
  • Pads are very soft, yet firm. Seal was also a non-issue for me. Once I tilted them properly onto the contours of the side of my head, I left them be, and that was it. No fiddling needed.
  • The headband's 'clickiness' is very welcome, and adds to the solid feeling of these headphones.
  • These seem as if they would benefit quite a bit from amping, as I needed my volume to be a good 1 or 2 clicks higher than usual to get the same amount of volume. (In comparison to my old Audio Technica ATH-M50's)
  • The above issue seems to be removed when using the headphone's bluetooth function, which uses its own battery to both power the headphones and their receiver. (I obviously could not test battery life in my limited time there)
  • Speaking about Bluetooth, sound over wireless was so similar to my impressions over tethering (cable), that I won't bother separating my sonic impressions into two sections. This headphone truly excels at wireless audio as well as tethered audio, as both of them were almost indistinguishable from each other. (Sonically)
  • The first words that came to my head when I put these on and began to play music was "Balance." Because that's what these are: not flat, and not v-shaped; they are balanced.
  • All frequencies I looked at had a great amount of detail without being fatiguing, and in my opinion, all frequencies had the perfect amount of presence. 
  • Highs were detailed, non-sibilant, and extended well when they needed to. I guess you would say they 'sparkled'? (Never understood what people meant by that until now.)
  • Mid-range was detailed and up-front. The opposite of the M-100 and other V-shaped cans. I would not go as far as saying the mids were aggressive, but vocals are very well presented on these cans. Something that I felt was lacking from the M-100's and even my M50's slightly.
  • Bass was probably my most pleasant surprise with these cans. It punched hard when required, but even when it was called for in some of my more bassy songs, it retained its position with the other frequencies. To put it simply, it's as if this headphone knows when to punch hard with its bass, and when to use a more subtle touch. This is likely due to the way it does its Sub-bass. The AKG K845BT has very good, deep extension, but it plays the mid-bass relatively light. This results in a lighter bass when the song doesn't need it, and a nice 'oomph' when it does. Very impressed here.

 

I'd love it if I could have simply finished my impressions there, but for about an hour after I left with my first pair, I was confronted with an issue in the Quality Control for my first pair. 

 


 

QC Issues:

 

As I left, opened the box,and sat down at my local Starbucks for a drink and a good listen with my new headphones, I couldn't shake the feeling that something was missing. I tried tinkering with the sound balancing on my iPod, but in its neutral position, it felt as if my left driver was a bit more quiet and recessed than the left. Something which would be confirmed visually soon enough. 

 

After I left the Starbucks and walked back to The Headphone Bar, I was assured that if I still felt that way, I could return them or exchange them for a new pair. I was happy with that promise, and went back to the Starbucks while awaiting a friend - but all was not well.

 

As I jogged slightly to cross an intersection, I heard a slight 'crinkle' or 'pop' from my left driver with each step. Sure enough, when I applied slight pressure to the cup, the 'crinkle' and 'pop' would return. I walked back to The Headphone Bar, and apologized for bothering him 3 times in the span of 2 hours, but explained my situation.

 

Surely enough, when the pads were removed, we could clearly see that the driver had been 'crunched'. It was still in one piece, and could still play music fine, but the instability was caused by a series of slight 'folds' between the lines on the driver. Once we checked the other K845BT's, we finally found one that was largely unscathed and in perfect working condition. The bad thing is, that it took 2 tries to find it. This means that out of the 4 AKG K845BT's I tried today, 2 had the left driver issue. If possible, go to a place with nice staff or a good refund policy, and check your drivers after your purchase. 

 


 

All in all, I'm a happy camper. I have a new favorite headphone, and a new favorite headphone store. Today was a good day.

 

Seriously, I really want to thank The Headphone Bar (I never caught the owner's name!) for its help and expertise in helping me find what I needed, as well as putting up with me staying there almost 4 hours total. I can't say thank you enough, especially for his understanding with the driver issue and the ease of replacement.

 

I plan on enjoying these babies for quite a while to come. 

post #2006 of 2517

Thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive review.  Wow you must have had one good Starbuck's buzz going on to crank it out so soon!!  Glad to hear that you are a happy camper with the AKG K845BT's!  That sucks though that the HP50's didn't work out for you.  I had similar issues with the AKG K550.  The bass was practically non existent due to not getting a proper seal.

post #2007 of 2517

i think you do unjust to the beyerdynamic dt1350. everyone know that they are one of the best and recommended portable 
headphones you put them on 9th place. 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/433318/shootout-111-portable-headphones-reviewed-creative-aurvana-live-2-added-02-25-14

post #2008 of 2517
I have owned several f the HP's listed hear and have heard most of them and think MH's list is pretty darn accurate and fair. the DT1350 while nice is about where I would put it in ranking when all areas of ranking are taken into consideration.
post #2009 of 2517

Agree mostly but the HP50 cannot be better than the P7. I would rank it 3rd or 4th. My biggest gripe is that the bass from HP50 just sounds unnatural to me.

post #2010 of 2517
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Originally Posted by listen4joy View Post
 

i think you do unjust to the beyerdynamic dt1350. everyone know that they are one of the best and recommended portable 
headphones you put them on 9th place. 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/433318/shootout-111-portable-headphones-reviewed-creative-aurvana-live-2-added-02-25-14


I would rank the DT1350 above the P7 in sound quality (have not heard the HP50 or the H6)...but I don't think he was grading them on SQ alone. 

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