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post #661 of 2299

I've actually already decided on the H6, it's going back. Packing it back up. A very shortlived experience, but it's just way too uncomfortable for my ears. They actually hurt now and I've been listening to them for less than an hour. Oh well, sh*t happens.

post #662 of 2299

Great comparison. I would recommend Audio-Technica ATH-M50 coz they are simply awesome.

post #663 of 2299

Had a re-listen to the M500 today - sonically I was very impressed. So a big thumbs up from me! (finally) Certainly the best sound out of the bunch in almost all regards.

I couldn't hear the coldness I heard before, (even after listening to the Momentum all morning) so I'm guessing they finally burned in properly because it was the same copy in the same shop.

 

Had a listen to the P7 today. I wasn't disappointed but I wasn't impressed either. Just sort of ... "hmmm".... I didn't really like the bass presentation. I think there was a mid-bass hump in there. Also the clamping force was too much. 

Overall the sound was good. Maybe just not my taste.

 

I think I would get the M500 if it fit into my style, but the Momentum fits better, so it stays for now.

post #664 of 2299
Just come over to the dark side already Greq!
post #665 of 2299

must..... resist...... must..hold... onto...momentums...for......irrational....shallow reasons....

post #666 of 2299

So now I have the P7, the Sony 1R and Philips L2 here. The Sony completely fits my ears! So they're very very comfortable. The downside of the Sony? I feel like I'm missing half the music when listening to them compared to the P7 and L2. The Sony sounds very veiled with recessed highs and it's even lacking a bit of kick in the bass. The only that sort of sounds okay are the mids. Now that my ears have been spoiled by the P7, I can't really take this step back anymore :)

 

The size of the L2 earcups is more or less similar to the P7, although a bit more oval shaped vs. the rectangular shape of the P7. The earcups on the P7 are a bit deeper than on the L2 so my ears touch the fabric inside. Comfortwise, I'd actually say the P7 is slightly more comfortable. Let me put it this way, when I take off the L2 and put on the P7, my ears feel sort of relieved. It's just that after a while I start to feel the P7 again and I have to shift it a bit.

 

Anyway, soundwise the L2 actually sounds quite good. It has a bit more treble emphasis and the mids seem to be slightly more forward vs. the P7 (or the P7 mids could be slightly more recessed). So overall slightly brighter, but haven't heard any sibilance so far. Also realize they're semi-open. That means the backs aren't completely sealed, there is just some foam covering it which filters the sound a little bit, but yeah, you don't get a great seal and leakage is much much higher than on the P7 or 1R. But I'm willing to consider the L2 since I'll mostly be using these headphones at home anyway, for short daily commutes I use IEM and was only looking for full-size headphones for either longer trips or to use around the house without bothering others. So in terms of bass on the L2, it's definitely present and well controlled. The P7 has a bit more kick I'd say, but the L2 is not far behind. The sub-bass is decent, but doesn't have as much quantity or reach as deep as the P7. In terms of soundstage I can't comment yet, need to give it a closer listen and A/B a bit with the P7. But first impression is that it has a wide soundstage as well. Oh and the build quality is quite nice, lots of metal and it all looks high quality. Only instead of pleather I would have preferred real leather at this price point (300 euros).

 

Anyway, I'm definitely not keeping the 1R, eventhough it's much more comfortable. The SQ is just not up to par with the P7 or L2 for that matter. Will listen to the P7 and L2 a bit more. I'm now also considering waiting for the Focal Spirit Classic to see how that one sounds and how comfortable it is, but it'll probably be a couple more weeks until it's released here.

post #667 of 2299

 

Yes someone has the L2!!!!!! :eek:  I couldn't care less about the P7 (exaggeration of course).  Thanks for your impressions!

 

If you have heard the L1, how does it compare?  The L1 is only average in my books. 

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Yes someone has the L2!!!!!! :eek:  I couldn't care less about the P7 (exaggeration of course).  Thanks for your impressions!

 

If you have heard the L1, how does it compare?  The L1 is only average in my books. 

I have not heard the L1. But so far I like what I'm hearing in the L2 though. I think I like the slight push in the mids compared to the P7, makes guitars come out a bit nicer (for instance, when listening to Pink Floyd - Dogs, which I'm listening to right now). But the P7 is a bit more comfortable though :) haha. I'm in search of the most comfortable AND best sounding headphone :)

 

I'll hold on to the L2 for now and give more detailed impressions after I've listened to them for a few days. My ears need to get used to them so I can fully start appreciating them for what they are.


Edited by starfly - 10/22/13 at 11:59am
post #669 of 2299
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I have not heard the L1. But so far I like what I'm hearing in the L2 though. I think I like the slight push in the mids compared to the P7, makes guitars come out a bit nicer (for instance, when listening to Pink Floyd - Dogs, which I'm listening to right now). But the P7 is a bit more comfortable though :) haha. I'm in search of the most comfortable AND best sounding headphone :)

 

Getting into that 300 euro price range, and not worrying about whether or not the headphones are open or closed, I would think that your options have expanded greatly!

 

Sounds to me like you have gone wandering down a slippery slope.... and have slipped lol!

 

Fwiw, I find the Fidelio X1's to be very comfortable (and sound great). I understand that the MA900's are very comfy as well. But they are both open.

post #670 of 2299
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Getting into that 300 euro price range, and not worrying about whether or not the headphones are open or closed, I would think that your options have expanded greatly!

 

Sounds to me like you have gone wandering down a slippery slope.... and have slipped lol!

 

Fwiw, I find the Fidelio X1's to be very comfortable (and sound great). I understand that the MA900's are very comfy as well. But they are both open.

No, I'd much rather have closed headphones. The L2 is marketed as a semi-closed/open headphone, so I wanted to give that a try. But the leakage is still quite high, so I'm not sure about that. Yeah, if I was willing to also go for an open headphone, my options would really open up (pun intended). 

post #671 of 2299
How did you get the L2? Its not out in the US until February!
post #672 of 2299
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How did you get the L2? Its not out in the US until February!

I live in the Netherlands and Philips is a Dutch company. They're widely available here :)


Edited by starfly - 10/22/13 at 1:53pm
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So another quick update on the L2, the soundstage is significantly larger than the P7 and the bass is quite nice and well controlled, though not as strong as in the P7. I think I actually like the way the mids are presented in the L2, a bit more upfront vs. the P7, kinda similar to the M500 if I remember correctly. And vocals have this nice airy quality to them. The highs are overall quite pleasant and crisp, not too harsh. But on some less well recorded songs I listend too it did reveal how badly recorded it was and sounded harsh at times with those recordings. But for instance, on the song Cicadas by Cowboy Junkies you can clearly hear all the cicadas in the background with the L2, whereas with the P7 I had to listen a bit closer. To put it differently, I hadn't even noticed there were cicadas in the background until I listened to the L2, and then of course you can hear it in other headphones, but you have to listen closer.

 

I just wish the earcups would've been a bit bigger, then they could have been a serious contender for me. I've decided to return everything (including the P7) and go in wait and see mode to see what else is released in the coming months. Am looking forward to the Focal Spirit Classic and might even go give the Final Audio Design Pandora IV and the Alpha Dogs a listen (although those are a lot more expensive).


Edited by starfly - 10/23/13 at 5:21am
post #674 of 2299
Looking good! The l1's earpads were also small.
post #675 of 2299
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So another quick update on the L2, the soundstage is significantly larger than the P7 and the bass is quite nice and well controlled, though not as strong as in the P7. I think I actually like the way the mids are presented in the L2, a bit more upfront vs. the P7, kinda similar to the M500 if I remember correctly. And vocals have this nice airy quality to them. The highs are overall quite pleasant and crisp, not too harsh. But on some less well recorded songs I listend too it did reveal how badly recorded it was and sounded harsh at times with those recordings. But for instance, on the song Cicadas by Cowboy Junkies you can clearly hear all the cicadas in the background with the L2, whereas with the P7 I had to listen a bit closer. To put it differently, I hadn't even noticed there were cicadas in the background until I listened to the L2, and then of course you can hear it in other headphones, but you have to listen closer.

 

I just wish the earcups would've been a bit bigger, then they could have been a serious contender for me. I've decided to return everything (including the P7) and go in wait and see mode to see what else is released in the coming months. Am looking forward to the Focal Spirit Classic and might even go give the Final Audio Design Pandora IV and the Alpha Dogs a listen (although those are a lot more expensive).

Are the L2s open or closed?

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