Originally Posted by james444
Joe, no offense, but did you take the time to read the original post properly? This thread has never been about absolute sound quality, but simply about the question whether the UERM was just a "tweaked TF10" (as Rin insinuated), or something entirely different. I challenged him to proof his point by modding a TF10 into an UERM, and he accepted.
I quote some of your words from the opening (I didn't mix you and somebody else up this time did I?
Needless to say, I was more than just a little bewildered. The UERM is one of the most highly regarded IEMs I know and costs a whopping $999 (even more in the EU, where I live), whereas the TF10 can be had for as little as $99 during Black Friday sales. Had I been ripped off big time by Ultimate Ears?
So, now that modding and measurements have been completed, how will our esteemed fellow Head-Fier's ears relate to Rin's results? Well, that's what the "$990 vs $99 Challenge Tour" is meant for, to collect a sizeable number of subjective listening impressions and let the collective mind evaluate whether the $99 IEM has really been turned into a $999 one.
The emphasis on the prices of the units seems to imply to me that making the cheap phone sound like an
expensive phone would be just as important as making them sound like the
expensive phone in the comparison--the UERM. While I'm sure you could say that the headline of your thread, "The $999 vs $99 Challenge Tour!", was devised just to grab attention, you cannot wash your hands totally clean when people's attention are directed to the disparity in price and how the cheap pair aspire to match the expensive pair...
I mean if making something cheap sound better didn't matter at all, this tour could have just as well been about modding the UERM to sound like the TF10 instead of the other way around
But I guess you and shotgunshane had a point when you said I could just as well ask you guys to buy the cheapos I'm listening to and give you the digital filters to try out. This would land me in the disadvantage of not hearing what kind of sound you guys consider worth forking over big bucks for (the main reason I hoped to have a pair shipped), but involves less cost for all involved. So without further ado, I will be posting about the cheapos for which I have made the best profiles for in my own thread:
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what you're actually proposing, but me thinks it has nothing to do with the main topic of this thread. If you're just pushing your same old agenda, that you can turn a SHE3580 into the best phone on the planet by EQ, then, sorry to say, I'm not interested. This will inevitably turn into the same old tedious debate about objective criteria for sound quality to support this claim, and frankly speaking, I'm tired of it.
I thought for a moment your point was that digital compensation could make a better job than Rin's hardware tweaking, meaning you could take "phone A" and make it sound like "phone B" simply by software compensation. Now that would have been both interesting and on topic for this thread, and it would have kept the controversy on sound quality criteria out of it. To proof this point, it (theoretically) wouldn't matter whether "phone B" was an UE700 or UERM and I would have gladly played along. But seems to me this was just a wrong interpretation on my side, so sorry for that.
If you are interested, I could do all three variations on the cheapo(s):
1. Sounding like a UE700, warts 'n all
2. Sounding like a UE700, but smoother
3. Sounding as good as I think it could