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[Newbie] Hello! After some research, I have a few questions regarding Desktop & Console Gaming...

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Hello everyone!

 

I am a beginner HiFi'er and an avid gamer. I have put a few hours into some research, and I had a few questions if I may inquire!

 

Firstly, this is my first HiFi project, and I am totally excited about this. I have spent hours on the forum researching, but I still had a few questions! Thank you for taking the time to read my concerns! :o)

 


I have finally decided that I am going to purchase one of the following:

AKG Annie 65 or the upcoming K612 PRO

 

 

With that said, here is my concern!

 

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Console Gaming Setup Questions & Stuff

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I am an avid video game player, and I have just a TV setup with an XBOX360, Playstation 3, WiiU, and Gaming system attached to it. I would like to use my new headphones for an amazing immersive experience, without much hassle by potentially using a switch of sorts. These are the following inputs that are supported:

 

XBOX 360: HDMI
Playstation 3: HDMI, Optical Out

WiiU: HDMI / Component , surround sound not supported unless its only LPCM 1.0, 2.0 and 5.1

 

I have ran across this switch (http://www.kinivo.com/Kinivo-HS420-AD-Premium-Optical-Supports/dp/B0092RE8BY) which is an HDMI hub that also has optical OUT depending on which switch is currently being used. My questions for this is, would this be a good solution to use with something like the Fiio E17 (http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E17-USB-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW/) for gaming? -- Or --

 

Am I better off using a receiver instead, and use that method instead to power my headphones for a sweet gaming setup? If so, which one do you recommend that I can use as both an AMP and DAC for the best gaming experience possible? I'm a bit stuck in this area, so I hope I am making sense!

 

I'd like to hook up all of my systems at once. The WiiU is a pain in the butt, but that is okay, since its rarely used.

 

TLDR: Would like to use new upcoming AKG's on my console/movie setup, not sure what to use for it. I am set in the desktop gaming department, just not the console one. Not looking for something terribly expensive, but not cheap either. Open to all suggestions, please, and thank you! :)

 

 

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Desktop Gaming 

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For Desktop gaming, I believe that the general consensus is to go with either the Xonar sound card, or to use either the O2+ODAC (http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48) or the Shiit Stack Modi/Magni (http://schiit.com) combo. I believe a lot are fans wit O2+ODAC over the other, however, so I will probably be going with that. I am pretty much set in this area. :)

 

Apologies if my terminology is wrong in any areas. I have asked some of my male friends and they are not specalized in the music areas so this is my last resort to getting any questions. I am super excited by this and appreciate everyones feedback! Open to suggestions at all time too!

 

Thanks! :) <33 Missfi


Edited by Missfi - 7/15/13 at 8:47pm
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Look into the Astro Mixamp Pro. It's a headphone USB/optical input surround processor for hooking up to Xbox and PS3. That leaves out the Wii, but with the Astro, just plug it up to the Xbox and PS3 whenever you need it.

I have the ODAC/O2. If this is purely for desktop use where you don't need any portability, I'd get the Modi/Magni and put your money towards the rest of your setup.

A receiver seems much for your needs unless your goal is to eventually built a 5.1 home audio surround system.
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Look into the Astro Mixamp Pro. It's a headphone USB/optical input surround processor for hooking up to Xbox and PS3. That leaves out the Wii, but with the Astro, just plug it up to the Xbox and PS3 whenever you need it.

I have the ODAC/O2. If this is purely for desktop use where you don't need any portability, I'd get the Modi/Magni and put your money towards the rest of your setup.

A receiver seems much for your needs unless your goal is to eventually built a 5.1 home audio surround system.

 

Hey Cel


Thanks so much for your feedback!

 

Will the Astro work for movies as well? I would like to not leave my options closed off - so I'd like to include films with it as well so my downstairs neighbors dont hate me. I want to put my new baby boys to use! Eventually, when I get a nicer place, I will want to expand, so 5.1 is definitely a potential option for me.

 

Based upon this information, will the Astro Mixamp also be suitable for movies? If not, what type of receiver would you recommend for potential future growth of a system going that can handle DAC/AMP?

 

Does a receiver automatically convert to DAC from HDMI etc? or do I need to find a DAC specific model? Same for Ampage.. do I need a specific model, or can I just plug it into the front of the headphone jack of the receiver? Muchos gracias! :D

 

Lastly, will that unit I posted work and do its job for a temporary solution? Thanks for all the help, my brain is kinda fried from yesterday still! :)


Edited by Missfi - 7/15/13 at 10:13pm
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I would imagine it would work for movies since you can hook the PS3 up to it. Definitely worth researching smily_headphones1.gif

I'm not up on which receivers have the best headphone output or would match well with the impedance of the AKGs. Or which have any headphone surround sound processing. But Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, Pioneer, and Yamaha are the brands to look at.
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Originally Posted by Missfi View Post

I have finally decided that I am going to purchase one of the following:

AKG Annie 65 or the upcoming K612 PRO

XBOX 360: HDMI

Playstation 3: HDMI, Optical Out

WiiU: HDMI / Component , surround sound not supported unless its only LPCM 1.0, 2.0 and 5.1

Would this be a good solution to use with something like the Fiio E17
Am I better off using a receiver instead, and use that method instead to power my headphones for a sweet gaming setup? If so, which one do you recommend that I can use as both an AMP and DAC for the best gaming experience possible? I'm a bit stuck in this area, so I hope I am making sense!

I'd like to hook up all of my systems at once. The WiiU is a pain in the butt, but that is okay, since its rarely used.

Desktop Gaming 

An A/V receiver (with HDMI input/output) might be a good choice

A receiver's headphone output jack should easily be able to drive the AKG K702 Annie (62-Ohm) or K612 Pro (120-Ohm) headphones

 

Using HDMI output from the xBox 360, Playstation 3, WiiU would give you the best possible audio from each device (and run HDMI from receiver to TV), hopefully your computer's motherboard on-board audio includes a S/PDIF (optical or coaxial) output, that can be connected to the receiver or just add an internal sound card to the PC.

 

The E17 comes with zero hardware for surround sound, so I would think not to get it, for this setup.

 

I like Yamaha receivers and they come with Silent Cinema, Yamaha's own headphone surround sound tech.

 

So maybe buy a used Yamaha receiver off Craigslist or eBay.

If it comes with 3 or 4 HDMI inputs, it's new enough.

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I would imagine it would work for movies since you can hook the PS3 up to it. Definitely worth researching smily_headphones1.gif

I'm not up on which receivers have the best headphone output or would match well with the impedance of the AKGs. Or which have any headphone surround sound processing. But Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, Pioneer, and Yamaha are the brands to look at.

 

Okay thank you! As a general statement, though, does a receiver automatically convert DAC from HDMI etc? I haven't gotten into researching that just yet, as I still have stuff to get through. If you're unsure no problems, but figured I'd ask anyway :) You've been great help!

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Okay thank you! As a general statement, though, does a receiver automatically convert DAC from HDMI etc? I haven't gotten into researching that just yet, as I still have stuff to get through. If you're unsure no problems, but figured I'd ask anyway :) You've been great help!

The receiver's DAC will take the digital audio signal from HDMI and send it thru the receiver's DAC, which will change it to an analog audio signal, automatically.

The receiver will also send a digital audio signal out thru it's HDMI output(s).

All the receiver's digital audio inputs need to send their digital audio signal thru the receiver's DAC before the receiver can send the signal to the speaker amps, or the headphone jack and any RCA analog outputs.

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Originally Posted by Missfi View Post

Okay thank you! As a general statement, though, does a receiver automatically convert DAC from HDMI etc? I haven't gotten into researching that just yet, as I still have stuff to get through. If you're unsure no problems, but figured I'd ask anyway smily_headphones1.gif You've been great help!

Glad to help smily_headphones1.gif

Yes. Any AVR (audio/video receiver) with HDMI has a DAC to convert the digital audio sent over HDMI to analog so that it can then send it to the headphone output and/or the amplifier for the speakers.

One additional benefit of an AVR if it is in a different room from your desktop setup. Many models now come with networking capability that lets you turn your computer into a music media server that plays over your AVR. That's pretty nice for accessing your music collection for when you get speakers.
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The receiver's DAC will take the digital audio signal from HDMI and send it thru the receiver's DAC, which will change it to an analog audio signal, automatically.

The receiver will also send a digital audio signal out thru it's HDMI output(s).

All the receiver's digital audio inputs need to send their digital audio signal thru the receiver's DAC before the receiver can send the signal to the speaker amps, or the headphone jack and any RCA analog outputs.

Thank you so much! 

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