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post #1 of 24
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Alright. I have no experience with high quality headphones but here is what I think I know. For use from my phone I'm looking for low Ohms. I also know that I need sealed/closed back. That's it. Lol you might see why I need help. I listen to everything from Bach to Drake. My price range is 350 and I really, really don't want to have an amp in my pocket all the time.
Edited by killmyignorance - 7/13/13 at 2:51am
post #2 of 24

There aren't really any full sized headphones that don't benefit from an amplifier, are you opposed to trying something like the Sennheiser momentum? That's probably the one of the best options you're going to get for portability at $350.

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There aren't really any full sized headphones that don't benefit from an amplifier, are you opposed to trying something like the Sennheiser momentum? That's probably the one of the best options you're going to get for portability at $350.
I've been hearing a lot about the AKG K551? And I get that it would benefit from an amp greatly but would it still sound good?
post #4 of 24
Hello!

Firstly, the AKG K550 sound "good" without an amp but with any warmer amp it sound "excellent"! Without an amp, it might sound way too think for portable use. Also, you for portable, I would not recommend the AKG K550 as it is extremely big and most of us may not get good seal which may led to leakage of sound as well as lack of bass.

Momentum on the other hand, is a perfect piece of headphone for portable use but it is too small that it feels more like an on - ear than over-ear but the clamping force is not as bad as most on ears so it's pretty comfortable but if you wanted something with good seal, portable and sound great with all genre of music, you are better off looking into the PSB M4U1! It sound as good as K550 but soundstage are lacking behind a lil bit only

Hope this helps!
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Hello!

Firstly, the AKG K550 sound "good" without an amp but with any warmer amp it sound "excellent"! Without an amp, it might sound way too think for portable use. Also, you for portable, I would not recommend the AKG K550 as it is extremely big and most of us may not get good seal which may led to leakage of sound as well as lack of bass.

Momentum on the other hand, is a perfect piece of headphone for portable use but it is too small that it feels more like an on - ear than over-ear but the clamping force is not as bad as most on ears so it's pretty comfortable but if you wanted something with good seal, portable and sound great with all genre of music, you are better off looking into the PSB M4U1! It sound as good as K550 but soundstage are lacking behind a lil bit only

Hope this helps!
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Thank you so much for your reply! I'm still trying to get a feel for whats out there. If I were to buy an amp, would your recomendation change drastically? My main worry about that is if I do buy an amp and a pair of headphones will it really be better sounding than a more expensive set of cans?
Edited by killmyignorance - 7/13/13 at 12:36pm
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Thank you so much for your reply! I'm still trying to get a feel for whats out there. If I were to buy an amp, would your recomendation change drastically? My main worry about that is if I do buy an amp and a pair of headphones will it really be better sounding than a more expensive set of cans?

Not all headphones will benefit from an amp. Pairing with an amp will only give the most out of a headphone by providing extra power/voltage. At your price range, the only closed headphone I can think of that requires an amp would be AKG K550.

That is because, some DAP like iPod Nano 3rd, iPhone (Original) can't really drive the AKG K550. 1) There's no sound at all with iNano 3rd. 2) It sound bass roll off, thin with the iPhone (Original). It sound pretty good with my iPhone 4 but still pairing with an amp would help.

If you do not like amp at all for portable use(like me), I would suggest you to go for the PSB M4U1. It's really the same thing, as the K550. Is just that, the soundstage is very little bit smaller, but in return, the imaging and instrument separation is extremely good.

May I know what source are you using?
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Not all headphones will benefit from an amp. Pairing with an amp will only give the most out of a headphone by providing extra power/voltage. At your price range, the only closed headphone I can think of that requires an amp would be AKG K550.

That is because, some DAP like iPod Nano 3rd, iPhone (Original) can't really drive the AKG K550. 1) There's no sound at all with iNano 3rd. 2) It sound bass roll off, thin with the iPhone (Original). It sound pretty good with my iPhone 4 but still pairing with an amp would help.

If you do not like amp at all for portable use(like me), I would suggest you to go for the PSB M4U1. It's really the same thing, as the K550. Is just that, the soundstage is very little bit smaller, but in return, the imaging and instrument separation is extremely good.

May I know what source are you using?
I hope I know what you mean by source. I'm planning on using my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I know its not gonna be the best quality. If I was planning on buying an amp, what would you recommend? My main worry with buying an amp is this. Will a 200 dollar set of cans with a 100 dollar amp be better than a 300 dollar headset without?
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I hope I know what you mean by source. I'm planning on using my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I know its not gonna be the best quality. If I was planning on buying an amp, what would you recommend? My main worry with buying an amp is this. Will a 200 dollar set of cans with a 100 dollar amp be better than a 300 dollar headset without?

If i was choosing a portable amp i think i would go for one of the Fiio's they have all different kinds of models anywhere from 20 to 100 dollars. For portable use i think something like the V-moda M100 would probably if you like bass, if not maybe something like a sony mdr-1r.
post #9 of 24

100 amp + 200 headphone and 300 headphone comparison can be very subjective at times but usually, the 300 will do better if it can be driven easily like the M4U1.


Ahhhh....Note 2! Shouldn't be a problem to drive the K550 anymore XD

 

Billson :)

post #10 of 24
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100 amp + 200 headphone and 300 headphone comparison can be very subjective at times but usually, the 300 will do better if it can be driven easily like the M4U1.

Ahhhh....Note 2! Shouldn't be a problem to drive the K550 anymore XD

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Really?! My phone can drive it well without an amp?! I had no idea I was that lucky lol
Edited by killmyignorance - 7/14/13 at 12:59am
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Really?! My phone can drive it well without an amp?! I had no idea I was that lucky lol

yeah haha... the Note 2 and S3 can drive it without the amp :)

post #12 of 24
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I've been hearing a lot about the AKG K551? And I get that it would benefit from an amp greatly but would it still sound good?


The AKG K550 is better the 551 is kind of dumb, the cord is shorter and thinner but they put a huge plug on it.

 

I'd say Momentum's>M100 (if you like bass)>K550>UE6000's for cheaper, for the price they score higher


Edited by ScaryFatKidGT - 7/14/13 at 1:17pm
post #13 of 24
AKG K550 and K551 are the same thing! It is just that K551 are more targeted for portable with shorter cable, in line control and more colorful colors for the housing.

I would say AKG K550 > Sennheiser Momentum > UE6000 in terms of sound

In terms of price ratio to performance: UE 6000 > AKG K550 > Sennheiser Momentum

UE6k's extra active - NC at low price is hard to beat xD

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post #14 of 24

You could also consider headphones that already have an amp built into them - these spring to mind:

PSB Speakers M4U2

Logitech UE9000

Parrot Zik

 

Or you could consider very low impedance versions of full size headphones
Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32 Ohm

AKG K551

AKG K267

Ultrasone HFI-780

 

and so on.

 

This also depends on your source device. Some modern smartphones (eg HTC One) already have a built in amplifier for the headphone jack and provide considerably better output to the headphones than a Samsung Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5 would.

post #15 of 24
Impedance are not the only thing to consider if a pair of headphone require an amp. Especially Beyerdynamic's, they can be power hungry at times.

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