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post #76 of 97

There was no model update. I think that the headphones I had didn't work properly.

post #77 of 97

I find it interesting that the 10243 and 10244 have been out of stock for quite awhile now. I wonder (and hope) they are retooling it for a more even frequency response.

post #78 of 97

The 10245 are a rebrand of the Bludio r

post #79 of 97

I just purchased one of the 10246 headphones.

 

I am not an experienced audiophile, headphone user or bluetoother.

 

I experienced difficulty pairing the headphones with my laptop running Debian Linux.  When I called MP tech support, they told me it doesn't work under linux.

 

After a bit of searching and tweaking, it DOES work under linux.

 

I am wondering about the utility of these headphones compared to other BT headphones.

 

They are BT3 and I haven't been able to get anything to play through them via Bluetooth other than music mp3s and mp3 podcasts.  I haven't been able to get the audio from a YouTube video to play through it.

 

This may be a question of knowing how to tell the audio part of a YouTube stream that it should play through a bluetooth output though.

 

Advice from others using these headphones (10246 and 10245) appreciated.

post #80 of 97

Thankfully the premium headphones are discontinued. They're the biggest waste of money I've ever purchased. They sound no better than the monoprice 8320's... the EARBUDS! I bought them when they first released, and my thought process was, "If these $7 earbuds are so good, then how good will these headphones be?" I was so wrong. 

post #81 of 97
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Originally Posted by Zelevin View Post
 

Thankfully the premium headphones are discontinued. They're the biggest waste of money I've ever purchased. They sound no better than the monoprice 8320's... the EARBUDS! I bought them when they first released, and my thought process was, "If these $7 earbuds are so good, then how good will these headphones be?" I was so wrong. 

Monoprice is still selling them. Not sure where you are seeing discontinued.

post #82 of 97
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

Monoprice is still selling them. Not sure where you are seeing discontinued.

They haven't been in stock for months

post #83 of 97
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Originally Posted by Zelevin View Post
 

They haven't been in stock for months

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=108&cp_id=10823&cs_id=1082708&p_id=10245&seq=1&format=2

 

These are basically the same thing, and can be used wired. In stock.

post #84 of 97

those monoprice headphones discussed here are clones of Bluedio gear, so

since we are talking about bluedio "R"-series gear here, I got several questions:

 

regarding the R+ and R2 (and I mean R2 , NOT the wired version R2-WH) :

R+ link to manufacturer's website: http://bluedio.com/detail-produit_c.php?ref=567

and to the best deal I found online: http://www.micmc.com/high-quality-bluedio-r-headset-nfc-bluetooth-4-0.html

R2 link to manufacturer's website: http://bluedio.com/detail-produit_c.php?ref=537

and to the best deal I found online: http://www.micmc.com/bluedio-r2-8-sound-tracks-bluetooth-4-0-headset-black.html


1. has anyone had a chance to check out the R2 model ?

and -what's more interesting- compare it with R+ ? (I know about the NFC difference, R+ has it, R2 does not)

how do these perform ? and I mean both: sound-wise and comfort-wise (plus durability and battery life , etc.)

I've seen the specs on paper (though not all of them - just as much as I found about it on bluedio website - see above), but I was wondering about the real life performance of R2 itself and R2 as opposed to R+ working in both configurations:

- via bluetooth

- "cabled"

 

And then back to the specs (vs actual performance) :

2. what's the sensitivity of each model ?

3. what's the maximum output of each model ?

4. regarding the impedance :

R+ has 2 woofers (50Ω) and 6 3D speakers (16Ω) and R2 has 2 woofers (50mm 32Ω) and 6 3D speakers (13mm 16Ω)

please advise: which model R+ or R2 would do a better job working directly with computer jack-out and portable devices used as portable players (like samsung note II LTE or nokia N97) and portable players like Rio Volt or Rio Pearl ?

 

At least from the pictures they seem to have differently shaped ear-cups, so:

5. which model fits ears inside them better ?

6. which model separates better from the outside noise ?

7. which model leaks less sound to the outside world ?

 

and by the way: which model is newer ? R+ or R2 ?

I would really appreciate if someone who actually had a chance to try them could address these issues.

thnx a lot in advance.

post #85 of 97
I am also interested in how they perform compared to say the R+ series. Also how do you think these compare to the UE 6000s. I was looking at both and i am leaning towards the 6000s as I cant get a solid feel for these monoprices.
Edited by Braz33 - 12/29/13 at 2:18pm
post #86 of 97

The UE6000 headphones are definitely better than the monoprice headphones. I own the Monoprice headphones and I have tried the UE6000s at an HHGregg, and the UE6000s sound better. The noise cancellation is notably better on the UE6000s too.

post #87 of 97
Quote:
Originally Posted by SurfBoy23 View Post
 

those monoprice headphones discussed here are clones of Bluedio gear, so

since we are talking about bluedio "R"-series gear here, I got several questions:

 

regarding the R+ and R2 (and I mean R2 , NOT the wired version R2-WH) :

R+ link to manufacturer's website: http://bluedio.com/detail-produit_c.php?ref=567

and to the best deal I found online: http://www.micmc.com/high-quality-bluedio-r-headset-nfc-bluetooth-4-0.html

R2 link to manufacturer's website: http://bluedio.com/detail-produit_c.php?ref=537

and to the best deal I found online: http://www.micmc.com/bluedio-r2-8-sound-tracks-bluetooth-4-0-headset-black.html


1. has anyone had a chance to check out the R2 model ?

and -what's more interesting- compare it with R+ ? (I know about the NFC difference, R+ has it, R2 does not)

how do these perform ? and I mean both: sound-wise and comfort-wise (plus durability and battery life , etc.)

I've seen the specs on paper (though not all of them - just as much as I found about it on bluedio website - see above), but I was wondering about the real life performance of R2 itself and R2 as opposed to R+ working in both configurations:

- via bluetooth

- "cabled"

 

And then back to the specs (vs actual performance) :

2. what's the sensitivity of each model ?

3. what's the maximum output of each model ?

4. regarding the impedance :

R+ has 2 woofers (50Ω) and 6 3D speakers (16Ω) and R2 has 2 woofers (50mm 32Ω) and 6 3D speakers (13mm 16Ω)

please advise: which model R+ or R2 would do a better job working directly with computer jack-out and portable devices used as portable players (like samsung note II LTE or nokia N97) and portable players like Rio Volt or Rio Pearl ?

 

At least from the pictures they seem to have differently shaped ear-cups, so:

5. which model fits ears inside them better ?

6. which model separates better from the outside noise ?

7. which model leaks less sound to the outside world ?

 

and by the way: which model is newer ? R+ or R2 ?

I would really appreciate if someone who actually had a chance to try them could address these issues.

thnx a lot in advance.

I GOT THE ANSWERS! I know it's been a few months now, hope it still helps :D and here goes the answers!!!

 

1) R+ is REALLLYYYY stressing on the bass, very strong and solid bass. The music details are good, but the vocals are pretty weak, feels like the one who's singing is hiding behind the whole band when you listen to it. I suggest R+ for more R&B and Pop music. It works well on both Bluetooth (on S4) and cable (on AK100 DAP) connection, I dont feel any noticable difference between the two connection methods so I think it's a tie on R+, you just need more muscle to fire it up if you're using a cable;

R2 has the bass tuned down a little bit, compensated with more details and a "closer" vocal, a more "balanced" performance. I suggest R2 for music with TONS of instruments and outstanding vocal. It also works with both Bluetooth and cable connection, I DO feel a slightly better, more detailed performance via cable connection than Bluetooth, no idea how but it is the case :)

 

2) A tie on sensitivity: Both at 110dB +/- 3dB

3) Max. Output: I cant find any details regarding the matter, no details provided from Bluedio, sorry :(

4) Like I said in (1), R+ requires a more powerful device to drive the speakers when connected by cable, otherwise Bluetooth is good enough; R2 works well with my S4 via both Bluetooth and cable, and GREAT with my AK100 DAP via cable. Both R+ and R2 are equipped with MAXIM Amp chip so it's good enough for most portable devices with Bluetooth connectivity.

5) You can fit your ears inside R+'s earcups (unless you have Micky Mouse's ears :D), it's comfortable and I like it; For R2, you can fit your ears inside the earcups only if you have small ears, I guess that's because it's a desgin for Asians, but still, the earmuff is soft and comfortable so I dont have any complaint about that.

6 & 7) DEFINATELY R+, your ear goes inside the earcups!!! Isolation is good, you can still hear outside if you're not playing any music at all but the outside noice is real dull when you're having the R+ on; R2 is good, but the isolation cant compare with R+, SMALL EARCUPS! 1 point for R+!!! :D

 

R2 is a more latest model than R+, and there is a wired version of R2, the R2WH, without Bluetooth if you want the same performance of R2 but cheaper price.

!!!TIPS!!! FULLY CHARGE the R+/R2 headset before you use them, and don't try them when the batteries are about to die coz that's when weird things happen. The output would suddenly goes out of balance, the volume will goes up and down and back up and down and it goes on and on and on.... scary when I first realize this little "bug".... actually it's quite funny when you hear that but well.... you didnt buy the headphones for that :)

 

End of report! Hope it helps :D Cheeres!

post #88 of 97

Thanks man for a legit input.

I listen to a lot of various music types and styles. Let's for example say I'd like to use it to listen to instrument sets like Dave Matthews band or the Fray or Chambao or Mumford and Sons or Tracy Chapman or Sugar Ray or Red hot chilli peppers or John Mayer or Jack Johnson (rap and beat-music etc will always sound good, so I don't bother myself with these styles)

so considering that: at which ones do You think: R+ or R2 such instrumental pallet would sound better ?

same question about music such as (alt rock & punk rock): Jimmy eat World, Sugar Ray, Eve6, Everclear, Green Day, Sum41 - You get the scope ;-)

 

Thanks for Your help !

post #89 of 97
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Originally Posted by SurfBoy23 View Post
 

Thanks man for a legit input.

I listen to a lot of various music types and styles. Let's for example say I'd like to use it to listen to instrument sets like Dave Matthews band or the Fray or Chambao or Mumford and Sons or Tracy Chapman or Sugar Ray or Red hot chilli peppers or John Mayer or Jack Johnson (rap and beat-music etc will always sound good, so I don't bother myself with these styles)

so considering that: at which ones do You think: R+ or R2 such instrumental pallet would sound better ?

same question about music such as (alt rock & punk rock): Jimmy eat World, Sugar Ray, Eve6, Everclear, Green Day, Sum41 - You get the scope ;-)

 

Thanks for Your help !

Personal opinion: R2 is better for Mumford & Sons and John Mayer style of music as it doesnt have R+'s super strong bass (possibily too strong), you can feel a much "closer" and detailed vocal. But personally i prefer the more latest model B2 http://www.bluedio.com/detail-produit_c.php?ref=577 but it doesnt cover up your ears so it might not be what you like. The B2 arrived in my shop two days ago, tested it with Michael Buble and Blake, OMFG was my instant response to it as the bass is further tuned down, replaced with more details, even better vocal, the combination is pretty nice, making the Michael Buble's "L.O.V.E." and Blake's "All of Me" so dynamic and good for ears.

For Green Day sort of music, personally i still prefer R2 over R+ as i want more on the vocal side. R+ is good if you prefer the bass guiter/drums etc over the vocal.

 

Cheers! :D

post #90 of 97

Thanks again.

As to what I wanna hear:

it's not like I wanna hear the vocals in front on top of everything else - that's not what I meant.

I wanna hear "it all": acoustic guitars, electric guitars, piano, vocals, vioin, sax, ukulele, base line, drums too.

so I guess the more balanced the sound (and the least interfered internal EQ shape of the headphones, I guess), the better.

 

btw: I know about R2-WH and the only difference between these and R2 seems to be that these are not just cable-only but also for some reason everywhere I heard people say that these sound way worse ...

 

Regarding B2:

these seem to be completely different than R+ or R2:

- different membranes

B2 only have 2 x 40mm 50Ω membranes as opposed to R2: 2 woofers (50mm 32Ω) and 6 3D speakers (13mm 16Ω)

- plus frequency response:
B2 have barely basic range of 20Hz-20kHz while R2 declares 5Hz-25kHz

- also RF sensitivity:

B2 declares barely < -85dBm (PER 1%) as opposed to R2 has RF sensitivity: 110dB+/-3dB

- and B2 are Bluetooth only - I don't see no mention of cable operation of B2 (as opposed to R2), and I'd like to have that possibility

- aptx: in the description of B2 there is no mention of B2 supporting aptx - as opposed to R2

- and then it surprises me that the declared weight of smaller B2 is bigger (223g) than the weight of bigger R2 (210g)

and then You are saying that they sound better and way better :)

so I don't really know what to think about B2 ... :)

 

By the way: You mentioned those arriving at Your store. Could You tell the pricing of R+, R2, B2.

 

Thanks again for Your help.

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