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the only thing he said that won't be fixed is gapless playback for browser folders. In addition, look at what OP said. Those file support has been fixed. 

Can you expand on what UI issues you are talking about?
Have not yet been fixed. FiiO is still working on it. ID3 tags are not loading correctly for Apple formated songs (have not tried AIFF).

They load and work, they just don't show up in categorized browsing due to lack of ID3 tag recognition. File name shows up though so you know what song it is, but all information otherwise does not.

So as of right now, I listen to my ALAC/AAC songs by manual file browsing. They are already all in artist and album folders organized as like on my PC so its not that hard.

For example, I have a Folder in 'Browse Files' (and on SD card) called Linkin Park.

I scroll all the way down there( 5-10s) and then click and I am met with all the folders I already made on the computer. They are teh album names, then I click again and voila! Songs. Although only their file names(and subsequently title name) are featured. All id3 tags are nada.
post #62 of 232
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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

the only thing he said that won't be fixed is gapless playback for browser folders. In addition, look at what OP said. Those file support has been fixed. 

 

Can you expand on what UI issues you are talking about?

 

Source? The file supports have not been fixed, please get your facts straight. 

 

Basically my issues are with the lack of gapless support, the wonky way the X3 manages properly tagged files, and fact that many of the problems people have experienced won't or "can't" be addressed. 

 

Still seems like a good player for some, but right now I have high expectations for any player I buy, and it seems like some of the things I was most looking forward to with the X3 aren't correctly implemented, need fixing (bugged), or has very limited access. Still seems like a very good DAP for the money though. 


Edited by Greed - 7/14/13 at 4:37pm
post #63 of 232
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Source? The file supports have not been fixed, please get your facts straight. 

 

Basically my issues are with the lack of gapless support, the wonky way the X3 manages properly tagged files, and fact that many of the problems people have experienced won't or "can't" be addressed. 

 

Still seems like a good player for some, but right now I have high expectations for any player I buy, and it seems like some of the things I was most looking forward to with the X3 aren't correctly implemented, need fixing (bugged), or has very limited access. Still seems like a very good DAP for the money though. 

The only thing James said he won't support is gapless playback in browser format.  That doesn't mean that the bugs with file support will not be fixed. Hasn't been fixed does not mean it won't ever be implemented. Whereas I know for a fact that gapless playback in browser form will 100% never come due to technical limitations. 

 

Gapless support will exist in non browser support. 

 

Can you outline the things that won't be addressed? The only thing that I know of is the browser gapless thing. 

post #64 of 232
James already said in another thread that they will support gapless for most file formats

its no easy task bcos of the wide range of formats that x3 supports
post #65 of 232

I was so tempted to get this at first for I thought this would be very competitive to AK100 which is almost 3 times dearer.

 

However after reading so many conflicting "impressions" threads, I was able to deduce following points:

 

1. there is a fair bit of UI bugs just like most chinese dap brands

2. some say it sounds better than AK100, some say it is on same level of IPC which is plain as water. But overall most people reckon there is no big improvement over IPC. Considering it sells at around same price as ipc, this is understandable. However ipc's UI is way better and stabler than x3.

3. x3 is only an experiment, x5 will be the real deal.

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What is IPC?
post #67 of 232

ipod classic

post #68 of 232
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ipod classic
I dont have the iPod Classic but the X3 is a more refined sounding iPod whilst sharing similar qualities such as being more bassy with the sometimes lifted up vocals. Just general comparisons of course as some iPods are fairly warm and others cold.
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I dont have the iPod Classic but the X3 is a more refined sounding iPod whilst sharing similar qualities such as being more bassy with the sometimes lifted up vocals. Just general comparisons of course as some iPods are fairly warm and others cold.

To be candid with you, I have always been skeptical of the reliability of these audiophile daps. Ipods are popular for a reason which is stable. I do not wish to always be in fear of my dap die on me out of a sudden. 

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To be candid with you, I have always been skeptical of the reliability of these audiophile daps. Ipods are popular for a reason which is stable. I do not wish to always be in fear of my dap die on me out of a sudden. 
Stable in terms of what?
Many popular consumer daps(zune, ipod, windows phone player, samsung player) or dap functions dont always have the most stable ui and are frequented with bugs. But they are usually more usable.

Please note that X3 is not fully released yet. Firmware updates are also comming weekly as of right now.
post #71 of 232
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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

The only thing James said he won't support is gapless playback in browser format.  That doesn't mean that the bugs with file support will not be fixed. Hasn't been fixed does not mean it won't ever be implemented. Whereas I know for a fact that gapless playback in browser form will 100% never come due to technical limitations. 

 

Gapless support will exist in non browser support. 

 

Can you outline the things that won't be addressed? The only thing that I know of is the browser gapless thing. 

 

I don't count my chickens before they hatch. Just because FiiO says they are going to fix the issues with their UI / compatibility issues doesn't mean it is going to happen. They could also release the FW that supposedly fixes the issues, and causes other problems. This is the name of the game for DAPs unfortunately. All I'm saying is, for me, this player seems like a work-in-progress, and not the refined product that I expected when it was announced a long time ago. That doesn't mean people will share the same opinion, but for me (someone who already has a really good DAP - AK120), I'm thinking about passing on this one. 

 

PS: The codec issues and limited gapless support is enough for me to pass. Also, the various issues people are reporting on the X3 thread with regards to usability, UI, etc. makes one skeptical to say the least. 


Edited by Greed - 7/15/13 at 9:16am
post #72 of 232
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Originally Posted by gzeminem View Post

I was so tempted to get this at first for I thought this would be very competitive to AK100 which is almost 3 times dearer.

 

However after reading so many conflicting "impressions" threads, I was able to deduce following points:

 

1. there is a fair bit of UI bugs just like most chinese dap brands

2. some say it sounds better than AK100, some say it is on same level of IPC which is plain as water. But overall most people reckon there is no big improvement over IPC. Considering it sells at around same price as ipc, this is understandable. However ipc's UI is way better and stabler than x3.

3. x3 is only an experiment, x5 will be the real deal.

 

How about Hifiman HM60X series

Headponia review suggests that they are more resolving while only $50 more expensive, 4G HM601 Slim is the same price. http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?cid=5

post #73 of 232
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Originally Posted by gzeminem View Post

I was so tempted to get this at first for I thought this would be very competitive to AK100 which is almost 3 times dearer.

 

However after reading so many conflicting "impressions" threads, I was able to deduce following points:

 

1. there is a fair bit of UI bugs just like most chinese dap brands

2. some say it sounds better than AK100, some say it is on same level of IPC which is plain as water. But overall most people reckon there is no big improvement over IPC. Considering it sells at around same price as ipc, this is understandable. However ipc's UI is way better and stabler than x3.

3. x3 is only an experiment, x5 will be the real deal.

IPC=Itunes. That's the sole reason I sold my Ipod to get the X3. So it's a completely different beast. 

post #74 of 232
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IPC=Itunes. That's the sole reason I sold my Ipod to get the X3. So it's a completely different beast. 
Not necessarily, other programs such as Mediamonkey has iPod song sync support.

Also, most iPod Classics allow Rockboxing.
post #75 of 232

FiiO X3 can use as DAC/AMP functions? I meant if I want to play song from my iPod and I want the output go to X3. Is this what people call by passing?
 

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