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post #16 of 40
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Originally Posted by DrikTheTroll View Post

 

Treble about the same?

 

A post comparing the two from the HE-500 thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/551345/hifiman-he-500-he-as-in-high-end-please-post-your-impressions-proving-to-be-a-great-headphone-and-standing-the-test-of-time/6075#post_9599469

post #17 of 40
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Originally Posted by Shazb0t View Post

 

Give the HE-500's a try.


I did.  Love them.  The highs aren't annoying or fatiguing.  I'm not sure if smooth means the same to everyone, but that's how I'd describe the HE-500.  I could listen to them for hours without fatigue (either in the treble or comfort-wise). 


Edited by Whitetriton - 7/16/13 at 6:40pm
post #18 of 40
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Originally Posted by Whitetriton View Post


I did.  Love them.  The highs aren't annoying or fatiguing.  I'm not sure if smooth means the same to everyone, but that's how I'd describe the HE-500.  I could listen to them with hours without fatigue (either in the treble or comfort-wise). 

 

Unfortunately it is fatiguing to use the HE-500 for many due to the weight of the phones (doesn't bother me personally though)

Haven't really heard the HE-400 much personally but i occassionally see posts that say something like HE-500 sounds better than HE-400 but not worth the price increase by 300 dollars

post #19 of 40

I can definitely see how someone could find the HE-500's uncomfortable.  They are rather large and heavy.  That, and the price, were the two biggest concerns I had prior to purchase.  Turns out, I find them perfectly comfortable.  I was pleasantly surprised.  Are they worth $300 more than the HE-400?  Dollar wise, that's an individual decision.  For me, absolutely.  I'm hoping to find somebody who wants to buy the HE-400 at the LA meet this weekend. 
 

post #20 of 40
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Originally Posted by Whitetriton View Post

I can definitely see how someone could find the HE-500's uncomfortable.  They are rather large and heavy.  That, and the price, were the two biggest concerns I had prior to purchase.  Turns out, I find them perfectly comfortable.  I was pleasantly surprised.  Are they worth $300 more than the HE-400?  Dollar wise, that's an individual decision.  For me, absolutely.  I'm hoping to find somebody who wants to buy the HE-400 at the LA meet this weekend. 
 


 

good luk with ur sale. I will never know if he-500 is worth the 300 dollar increase since i went directly for the he-500. had to say bye bye to a good chunk of my intern money since i had to upgrade my dac and amp with it. I feel so poor..... maybe ill use some of my financial aid grant money i got from the state for grad school

post #21 of 40

Thanks Meyner.  Are you running the HE-500's through the Asgard?  Have you tried them on other headphone amps?  I have the Asgard and just recently bought a Lyr.  It's only been about a month or so.  While I very much like having the preouts on the Lyr, I'm not yet convinced there is much, if any sound difference.  It's still early on though and difficult to do a quick AB test.  I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
 

post #22 of 40
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Originally Posted by Whitetriton View Post

Thanks Meyner.  Are you running the HE-500's through the Asgard?  Have you tried them on other headphone amps?  I have the Asgard and just recently bought a Lyr.  It's only been about a month or so.  While I very much like having the preouts on the Lyr, I'm not yet convinced there is much, if any sound difference.  It's still early on though and difficult to do a quick AB test.  I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
 

 

originally i was running them through asgard and frankly i was satisfied with what i got but i found a post by MalVeauX on using it with a emotiva 100x speak amp and had to try it after looking through:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/he-500-lcd2-d5000-dt770-sr80-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/450

 

now i've switched over to the emotiva and i like it more than the asgard. Can't say anything about the lyr though since i haven't listened through lyr before. I hear that the lyr brings out a warm sound and has good synergy with the HE-500 but i've only seen posts. Haven't really listened to them myself.

post #23 of 40

Thanks.  I've read through that thread about running the HE-500 on speaker amps.  I'm curious what it sounds like and would like to try it some day.  Would you say it's significantly different from the Asgard?

post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by Whitetriton View Post

Thanks.  I've read through that thread about running the HE-500 on speaker amps.  I'm curious what it sounds like and would like to try it some day.  Would you say it's significantly different from the Asgard?

 

mmmm well i personally can't say for sure since i loaned out my asgard right before i received the emotiva so i haven't been able to do a side by side comparison in that manner. But for obvious reasons you have much more leeway on volume. And i feel like the soundstage is wider and the bass is tighter. I felt like the mids were pretty similar though. But can't really say its a significant difference. I would just say a noticeable differance. I am running mine from a maverick D2 dac and i heard some people post that the emotiva did not sound impressive until hooked up with a decent dac so maybe that also has a impact but i am unsure since the only dac i have is Fiio 7 and maverick D2 and Fiio 7 is only compatible with Fiio 9.

post #25 of 40
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Originally Posted by spiderking31 View Post

All i can say is, the he-400's blow my Sennheiser hd650 outta the water! Love them! :-)
I'm glad you like your purchase its just that whenever you get a new set of cans you seem to rubbish the previous set. Wasnt it like 7months ago you were saying that the hd650's are the best ever cans available and you had reached audio nirvana and it blew every other cans out of the water. Not having a go just suggesting you should analyse every can for there pros and cons and try and review the headphones instead of being so harsh. E.g the Senns I found had nice mids but was a little dark for my liking these new cans have a big soundstage and more punch or whatever. It's just saying that one set blows the other out of the water and then next month you buy something else and then you will say the newer set blows the he-400 out of the water and the cycle continues. Just a thought
post #26 of 40
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Originally Posted by foreign View Post


I'm glad you like your purchase its just that whenever you get a new set of cans you seem to rubbish the previous set. Wasnt it like 7months ago you were saying that the hd650's are the best ever cans available and you had reached audio nirvana and it blew every other cans out of the water. Not having a go just suggesting you should analyse every can for there pros and cons and try and review the headphones instead of being so harsh. E.g the Senns I found had nice mids but was a little dark for my liking these new cans have a big soundstage and more punch or whatever. It's just saying that one set blows the other out of the water and then next month you buy something else and then you will say the newer set blows the he-400 out of the water and the cycle continues. Just a thought

 

 

Yea that's why I love ALL MY CANS. For I am fortunate to have them as my children :p:):p Last month I was using my Ultrasone HFI-780 and Audio Technica ATH-AD700 with great pleasure then the other day I went back to my Sennheiser HD-280 Pro and was feeling as if they were greatest most balanced phones yet. Guess the brain likes variety and mixing it up after a certain time.

post #27 of 40
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

It's all about perspective. One man's treble spike sibilance and upper midrange recession, is another man's ultra-detailed crisp open sound.

 

 

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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post

Being spoiled by higher end headphones, I easily heard the roller coaster ride that is the HE400.
But overall it's not a bad pair!

 

Yea... I wonder about that... I mean I own mostly Neutral cans, Dt 880, Dt 990 [yes that bass I know] Modded W1000x [L3000 Pads Dynamat] Sound Magic Hp 100 [W1000x Pads [lucky me they sound amazing on the hp 100 and fit] Modded Shure 840 ect... ect...

 

so I like a more neutral can... but I'm thinking of upgradeing my Dt 990 and I'm wondering if the He 400 is an good choice... treble spikes don't bother me... although lack of upper mids might... 

post #28 of 40
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

 

 

Yea... I wonder about that... I mean I own mostly Neutral cans, Dt 880, Dt 990 [yes that bass I know] Modded W1000x [L3000 Pads Dynamat] Sound Magic Hp 100 [W1000x Pads [lucky me they sound amazing on the hp 100 and fit] Modded Shure 840 ect... ect...

 

so I like a more neutral can... but I'm thinking of upgradeing my Dt 990 and I'm wondering if the He 400 is an good choice... treble spikes don't bother me... although lack of upper mids might... 

 

DT880 is quite neutral, DT990 is FAR, FARRRRRRR from neutral though. HE400 is around the same level of (non)neutrality as DT990.

post #29 of 40
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

 

DT880 is quite neutral, DT990 is FAR, FARRRRRRR from neutral though. HE400 is around the same level of (non)neutrality as DT990.

 

The more I hear the more I wonder and honestly the only differance in the 990 and 880 is the bass... more bass= less mids in addition the more bass needs more treble to even it out and it ends up sounding nice for classical 

post #30 of 40
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Originally Posted by foreign View Post

I'm glad you like your purchase its just that whenever you get a new set of cans you seem to rubbish the previous set. Wasnt it like 7months ago you were saying that the hd650's are the best ever cans available and you had reached audio nirvana and it blew every other cans out of the water. Not having a go just suggesting you should analyse every can for there pros and cons and try and review the headphones instead of being so harsh. E.g the Senns I found had nice mids but was a little dark for my liking these new cans have a big
soundstage and more punch or whatever. It's just saying that one set blows the other out of the water and then next month you buy something else and then you will say the newer set blows the he-400 out of the water and the cycle continues. Just a thought

What I meant is, the hd650 is a great can, but when I stepped into the world of planar magnetic headphones, they have way more detail in them. I still like my hd650, but the detail is only getting better on the he-400 cans. I love my hd650, and would hate to live without it. Trust me on that....
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