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Grado sr80i vs Ultrasone hfi-580

post #1 of 21
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Hi!

I know that there were many quite similiar threads but i still have no clear answer. Which ones of this two headphones deliver better sound quality? Ive heared that ultrasones are more bass heavy (which is not very important for me) and frequency response is bit wider but closed back build and the s-logic makes me bit frightened ihave never had any serious headphones before (of course im not counting chinese no-names) on the other side grados are open backed (i dont know if thats true but people over here say that open backed sound more natural) also what about sound leakage? Is it really so huge? As for comfortability i dont care at all my head will stand everything.

I mainly listen to rock/metal/rap...some other genres from time to time. Always flac or mp3 320kbp/s as a last resort.

Which ones should i choose? I have no opportunity to test them myself anywhere and after reading hundreds of reviews im confused...

One more thing...i do not plan to buy any amp for now (maybe later) Music will be played from Samsung Galaxy s3.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #2 of 21
You have picked two extremes smily_headphones1.gif

For rock and metal, undoubtedly the SR80i. Forward mids and highs, but OK midbass if you are not looking for bass emphasis.

For rap, hip hop, and EDM, the HFI-580 is a clear winner. Very strong midbass and subbass impact. Ok highs. Mids are recessed a little.

Both will do fine with portable devices, although the bass in the HFI-580s will often improve with an amp because of the additional power.

Yes. Open headphones are not a good choice for portability as people will be able to hear what you listen to, and you can hear your environment. The HFI-780s are better portable choice anyway because they fold up and are more durable. Grados are the type of headphones you keep at home.
post #3 of 21
Grado's will have a forward midrange and prominent highs which is excellent for metal and rock. HIFI 580's have strong bass, recessed midrange, and prominent highs. They will be good for EDM, rap, hip-hop, etc.. But they will do terrible with rock and metal.
post #4 of 21
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Anyone could recommend something more universal? Now i see i compared two hadphones that shouldnt be compared.
 

post #5 of 21

ATH M50 is in the same class and very versatile, it is good for just about anything you can throw at it. 

post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by rocky123 View Post

Anyone could recommend something more universal? Now i see i compared two hadphones that shouldnt be compared.

 

Better than getting an all around headphone would be pick either the SR80i or 580 now, and then save up for the other one later. biggrin.gif
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

ill pick grado thank you for your help.
 

post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 

Ok...So i got my grados, i have burnt them in for 4 days and they sound good indeed but i would like to get even more. So i thought ill buy an amp...(i know i said i wont but now i just cant resist) Will fioo e10 do the job? i have read many positive reviews but none of them were grado sr80i related.Also i dont know if it will work with my s3 or not.
 

post #9 of 21
The S3 supposedly has pretty good sound output from what I have read, (I have the Note 2). Unless you are going after more volume, I would wonder if the E10 would help that much.
post #10 of 21
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i use boeffla sound control (if you are familiar with android modding you should know whats that) DAC direct turned on and dac oversampling set to 128x instead of stock 64...(really improves sound even with stock sammy iems) i can also tune fll for bigger output power so volume is perfectly fine. I rather thought about SQ improvement althought its very impressive without amp i thought additional amp (it doesnt have to be e10 may be something else with price up to 100$) will push it even bit further (Im confused again some people say sr80i doesnt need amp others say it really benefits and im not in the mood for throwing out my money for fun).

 

Heres something for you https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.near.uneak   Its similiar to boeffla but works with your note. Give it a try you wont regret.


Edited by rocky123 - 7/10/13 at 1:47pm
post #11 of 21

id say the 780's are better than the 580's if you don't want a lot of bass and there about the same price.

post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 

Maybe in your country they are...But in Poland (fu*kin place where i live) grados sr80i cost about 145$ and hfi 780 is for 210$...Buying something from another country is also no go becouse of super high customs fee.
 

post #13 of 21

I don't understand why people act like low end isn't important for heavy metal. Heavy Metal likes a good amount of bass too, or else everything loses impact. I guess I don't understand people's definition of strong bass.  Regardless of how you are listening to your music the bass shouldn't sound thin regardless of the genre of music you are listening too. When people say bass heavy do they mean bass that isn't accurate and is boosted? 

post #14 of 21
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Try beats by dr. Dre and u will see or rather hear what bass heavy means (of course im not recommending these headphones to anybody). Tried my friend's ones and everything was so dominated by bass that i almost couldnt hear anything else and it completely spoiled my music.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by rocky123 View Post

Try beats by dr. Dre and u will see or rather hear what bass heavy means (of course im not recommending these headphones to anybody). Tried my friend's ones and everything was so dominated by bass that i almost couldnt hear anything else and it completely spoiled my music.

Ewww, that sounds awful.  Doesn't sound like a very musical pair of headphones to me. 

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