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post #196 of 249
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Originally Posted by the-kraken View Post

Interesting comments Zoom. However, the reason I feel that the LCD-3 is creamy/smooth is because of the midrange, not the bass. In fact, there are many professional reviewers who refer to the LCD-3's midrange with these adjectives.

In any event - I'm not new to technically proficient audio equipment, having spent time with other planar magnetic headphones and owning a home theater system featuring Heil motion tweeters (a close relative of planar magnetic drivers). While I agree that it does take some time to acclimatize to new audio gear, fifteen days is more than sufficient for an audiophile that is at or beyond the level of advanced-beginner. The key here is to not continuously A/B reference against your existing setup - but to give the new items time to reveal their nature. A good recommendation is to listen to new gear for three consecutive days before coming to any conclusions or cross-checking against other gear. Certainly I've done that and more.

One thing, you said: "The LCD-3 definitely extracts more detail, so I think it could be veiled". That doesn't really make sense, as the term "veiled" is used to describe a phenomena where something appears to be standing in the way of the audio detail and the listener - as if there were a thin cloth between the headphones and your ears. The 4db drop between 2-3kHz that Tyll from innerfidelity measured can cause this type of experience. I'm not sure if its acceptable to link out to other resources, but if you google for the following title, you can review his notes on the experience of veiled LCD-3's: "Preliminary Investigation of the Audez'e LCD-3 and LCD-2"

I suppose a shorter way of saying all that would be: I prefer the LCD-2.r2 over a veiled pair of LCD-3's.

Still - I live about 5 miles from the RMAF 2013 location, so I'll have another opportunity to listen to the LCD-3's there. I was a little bummed that I didn't see Audeze, Fostex, or WooAudio on this year's participant list. I'll give the 3's another listen at CanJam - but they'd have to sound significantly better than the veiled set I just had in order to come back onto my radar. For now, the TH900's will be my only flagship, unless they just don't have the technical chops of the LCD-2's.

 

My bad. I meant to say:  "The LCD-3 definitely extracts more detail (than the LCD-2), so I think it (your pair) could be veiled"

 

Ultimately it boils down to your own preference. If you like it, then that's that. If you don't, well, you can look at other options

 

Regarding the time needed for evaluation I stated was just a personal thing I do. I like to test out a bunch of stuff and repeat it if possible a couple of times over different days with different moods and different energy level. This usually helps drive me to a good baseline performance. Sometimes, something dull on a particular day might seem way too laid back. Although on other days, the same piece can seem quite perfect.

 

Most people don't wait around anything over two weeks to get a grip on things. You already have experience with high end equipment, so I'm sure you have your method down. Let us know what you think of the LCD-3 the next time you hear them.

post #197 of 249
Just curious, has anyone sold their LCD-3's for the TH-900 or vice-a-versa? Wondering the reason why (either way).
post #198 of 249
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

Just curious, has anyone sold their LCD-3's for the TH-900 or vice-a-versa? Wondering the reason why (either way).

 

Not really this but.   I sold my W3000anv for my TH900 and I sold my LCD-2.2 for my LCD-3s  biggrin.gif  

post #199 of 249

Hello,

 

Unfortunately my plan didn't went well, so I'm not with a LCD-3 on my ears right now. frown.gif
But hopefully I'll have it in the first week of october, let's see. I think this time it will happen!

Thank you for the support :D.

post #200 of 249
Thread Starter 

Just got the LCD-3s and I'm in heaven.  My initial impression compared with the TH900s, they sound a lot smoother overall, less harsh in the highs and nicer vocals, better midrange not quite as boomy bass as the TH900s but plenty of it and probably more realistic bass. 

 

The LCD3s also match better to my Burson Conductor. 

 

My ears just really seem to agree more with the Audeze orthodynamic drivers over a traditional speaker driver.


Edited by phototristan - 9/10/13 at 4:48pm
post #201 of 249
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

Just got the LCD-3s and I'm in heaven.  My initial impression compared with the TH900s, they sound a lot smoother overall, less harsh in the highs and nicer vocals, better midrange not quite as boomy bass as the TH900s but plenty of it and probably more realistic bass. 

 

The LCD3s also match better to my Burson Conductor. 

 

My ears just really seem to agree more with the Audeze orthodynamic drivers over a traditional speaker driver.

 

I have both and love both, but I agree, the LCD-3s are the better headphones sonically. But the TH-900s fill a need for a great closed headphone. And that role they fulfill very well.

post #202 of 249
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

I have both and love both, but I agree, the LCD-3s are the better headphones sonically. But the TH-900s fill a need for a great closed headphone. And that role they fulfill very well.

 

+1

post #203 of 249
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

Just got the LCD-3s and I'm in heaven.  My initial impression compared with the TH900s, they sound a lot smoother overall, less harsh in the highs and nicer vocals, better midrange not quite as boomy bass as the TH900s but plenty of it and probably more realistic bass. 

 

The LCD3s also match better to my Burson Conductor. 

 

My ears just really seem to agree more with the Audeze orthodynamic drivers over a traditional speaker driver.

 

I agree with the comparisons between these two.  Also as MH said, The TH-900 fill a need for a closed headphone not sure how great though at their price point.  Somtimes I think about selling them, they get the least amount of head time. 

post #204 of 249

I sold my LCD-3's and kept the TH-900's.

 

The reason was I had 3 headphones, HD800, LCD-3, TH-900. I tested all three on my current system for a long

time. And with a Burson Conductor, I have since sold. I listen to all different types of music, except Classical,

Hip Hop, and Country.

 

To keep it short, in the end the LCD-3 sound was in the middle of the HD800's sound and the TH-900's sound.

Depending on the music I was listening too, the LCD-3's sound was very good, but the HD800's bested them in some

areas that I like, and the Fostex bested them with other areas, like rock. Just did not reach for them as much as 

the other two when in a listening session. Also, of the 3 the LCD's weight and clamping force made them the

least comfortable to wear for even shorter listening sessions than the HD800's and TH-900's. And I have a

smaller size head.

 

Not trying to say anything bad about the LCD-3's, bottom line they are what they are, but they just didn't

convince me that I needed to keep them.

post #205 of 249
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I have both and love both, but I agree, the LCD-3s are the better headphones sonically. But the TH-900s fill a need for a great closed headphone. And that role they fulfill very well.

+3
post #206 of 249
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

I have both and love both, but I agree, the LCD-3s are the better headphones sonically. But the TH-900s fill a need for a great closed headphone. And that role they fulfill very well.

Pretty much how I feel about LCD-2 vs TH-600.
post #207 of 249
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+3

 

LOL @ ur sig. U crazy, crazy girl!!! So you're not buying anything for the next 10 years right? LOL go get some speakers next (but I'm guessing there's probably a Stax before that). I am going to get a TH-900 later for closed and probably save up for some Focal Electras.

post #208 of 249
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

LOL @ ur sig. U crazy, crazy girl!!! So you're not buying anything for the next 10 years right? LOL go get some speakers next (but I'm guessing there's probably a Stax before that). I am going to get a TH-900 later for closed and probably save up for some Focal Electras.

 

10 YEARS? yeah right.... try 10 days... definitely infected with Stage IV Upgradetitis

post #209 of 249
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
 

 

10 YEARS? yeah right.... try 10 days... definitely infected with Stage IV Upgradetitis

 

hahahaa

post #210 of 249
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
 

 

10 YEARS? yeah right.... try 10 days... definitely infected with Stage IV Upgradetitis

 

 

:rolleyes:

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