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post #991 of 1723

as i wrote before i always appreciate dweavers opinions on headphones, as it seemed that we had similar preferences in the past. i ordered a k845 (bt version of the k545 with identical sound, when using cable). and was not impressed enough, so i sent it back. ordered a kef m500 instead which i fell in love from the first minute i got it, because of spacious, detailed and natural sound. but i changed some pms with dweaver that made me order a second pair of k845 and now i am comparing them with the kef for the last three days. the akg is not bad at all, but to my ears it is a very mainstream sounding headphone with a decent v shaped signature. headphones like cal!, hm3, momentum etc.  have a somewhat similar sounding signature. even though the akg has pretty decent soundstage both in width and in depth they still sound closed. some instruments seem to get stuck in the cups. the kef sounds much more like an open headphone. to my ears it shows more details has more accurate imaging and sounds more live like. it is slightly brighter than the akg but still with a hint of warmth. bass is faster and only slightly less but more so it does not cover the lower mids, as the akg tends to do sometimes.

besides that i compared both to my beloved es700 and this one seems to stand right in the middle of the akg and the kef speaking of signature only. only downside of the es700 compared to the others is, that imaging is not as accurate but still decent. 

speaking of comfort the kef wins on my ears hands down. the cups of the akg need adjustment on my head avery 5 minutes. i have a pretty large head though. 

just my 2 cent, but it would be nice to hear other comparisons of the mentioned headphones, because maybe i am completely wrong...

post #992 of 1723

Bought the HM5 pads, should be here 10-30 days (damn). I'll report back to see if sound changes from them.

post #993 of 1723
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post
 

as i wrote before i always appreciate dweavers opinions on headphones, as it seemed that we had similar preferences in the past. i ordered a k845 (bt version of the k545 with identical sound, when using cable). and was not impressed enough, so i sent it back. ordered a kef m500 instead which i fell in love from the first minute i got it, because of spacious, detailed and natural sound. but i changed some pms with dweaver that made me order a second pair of k845 and now i am comparing them with the kef for the last three days. the akg is not bad at all, but to my ears it is a very mainstream sounding headphone with a decent v shaped signature. headphones like cal!, hm3, momentum etc.  have a somewhat similar sounding signature. even though the akg has pretty decent soundstage both in width and in depth they still sound closed. some instruments seem to get stuck in the cups. the kef sounds much more like an open headphone. to my ears it shows more details has more accurate imaging and sounds more live like. it is slightly brighter than the akg but still with a hint of warmth. bass is faster and only slightly less but more so it does not cover the lower mids, as the akg tends to do sometimes.

besides that i compared both to my beloved es700 and this one seems to stand right in the middle of the akg and the kef speaking of signature only. only downside of the es700 compared to the others is, that imaging is not as accurate but still decent. 

speaking of comfort the kef wins on my ears hands down. the cups of the akg need adjustment on my head avery 5 minutes. i have a pretty large head though. 

just my 2 cent, but it would be nice to hear other comparisons of the mentioned headphones, because maybe i am completely wrong...

I wish someone could send you a set to compare to the k545. Blue tooth headphones with all the passive noise cancelation have always fallen short. The k545 have far from a mainstream sound. My brother who heard them with his mainstream ears didn't like them because they didn't engage him despite its sq. I know the 845 is said to not suffer from those issues as much as the rest but the k545 is just audio... nothing else.

post #994 of 1723
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

I wish someone could send you a set to compare to the k545. Blue tooth headphones with all the passive noise cancelation have always fallen short. The k545 have far from a mainstream sound. My brother who heard them with his mainstream ears didn't like them because they didn't engage him despite its sq. I know the 845 is said to not suffer from those issues as much as the rest but the k545 is just audio... nothing else.

I agree with grizzly, I never thought the bluetooth variant performed as well as standard sets (I have tried Harmon's BT, Jabra's Revo, my friends wireless beats, not the 845's though). It always felt something was missing in the details. The K545 is just pure audio, no real bells and whistles. I would never describe them as a V sound signature. Yes they have bigger bass than the K550's but by no means are the mids recessed nor treble enhanced. Very neutral. I think it definitely lived up to its "reference class" claim. Personally, it was quite an adjustment getting used to them from going from Sennheiser's very warm signature. If you can, try the K545's (:

post #995 of 1723
I wish I could get sofa streamer a pair of K545 to try as well because his description sounds off to me as well. I just worry if he is hearing differently than us that he would be wasting his money and time. But I do suspect the K845 is different somehow. I would buy a pair to test but just can't afford it right now even temporarily.

To my ears the K545 has more bass than the modded Q701 but a similar sonic signature minus some of the openness of the Q701 and a bit softer treble, so NOTHING like a V shape signature.

I have also owned the M500 and actually thought their treble was unnaturally peaked aside from security issues in regards to falling off my head when I leaned forward. The signature issue is a personal thing though.
Edited by dweaver - 1/25/14 at 10:07am
post #996 of 1723
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post
 

as i wrote before i always appreciate dweavers opinions on headphones, as it seemed that we had similar preferences in the past. i ordered a k845 (bt version of the k545 with identical sound, when using cable). and was not impressed enough, so i sent it back. ordered a kef m500 instead which i fell in love from the first minute i got it, because of spacious, detailed and natural sound. but i changed some pms with dweaver that made me order a second pair of k845 and now i am comparing them with the kef for the last three days. the akg is not bad at all, but to my ears it is a very mainstream sounding headphone with a decent v shaped signature. headphones like cal!, hm3, momentum etc.  have a somewhat similar sounding signature. even though the akg has pretty decent soundstage both in width and in depth they still sound closed. some instruments seem to get stuck in the cups. the kef sounds much more like an open headphone. to my ears it shows more details has more accurate imaging and sounds more live like. it is slightly brighter than the akg but still with a hint of warmth. bass is faster and only slightly less but more so it does not cover the lower mids, as the akg tends to do sometimes.

besides that i compared both to my beloved es700 and this one seems to stand right in the middle of the akg and the kef speaking of signature only. only downside of the es700 compared to the others is, that imaging is not as accurate but still decent. 

speaking of comfort the kef wins on my ears hands down. the cups of the akg need adjustment on my head avery 5 minutes. i have a pretty large head though. 

just my 2 cent, but it would be nice to hear other comparisons of the mentioned headphones, because maybe i am completely wrong...

lol not to be throwing off your impressions, but blue tooth versions usually do not have the same sound as non-BT models. bluetooth versions have lower sound quality because of the audio compression when streaming.

 

the akg k545 would most likely sound much better than the akg 845 bt, simply due to the fact there is no loss in audio quality via bt.

post #997 of 1723
first: i use the 845 with cable!!!
second: i compared 845 and 545 already! no difference when used with cable!!!
post #998 of 1723
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

lol not to be throwing off your impressions, but blue tooth versions usually do not have the same sound as non-BT models. bluetooth versions have lower sound quality because of the audio compression when streaming.

 

the akg k545 would most likely sound much better than the akg 845 bt, simply due to the fact there is no loss in audio quality via bt.

 

The audio compression stuff is going to make a smaller difference in contrast to the internal dac/amps that are in there...  Additionally, he's stated multiple times he ran the 845 with a cable, and not wirelessly.  This bypasses all the internal stuff and gives you the same signal inside the headphone...  Also, if you're not using lossless (MP3 320, AAC, etc.), a lot of headphones have support for sending that stuff without compression so the only difference in sound becomes the internal dac/amp. 

post #999 of 1723
Sofastreamer, I apologize I didn't realize you tried the K545 as well as the K845. If your hearing them the same then this just boils down to preference and buyers of the K845 can relax in the knowledge the K845 I the same as the K545 sonically speaking when using the cable.

I think your love of the 940 signature says it all. You prefer it brighter nature and the added detail it provides. I loved the 940 as well but I think my preference has changed since last year and I now prefer a more relaxed treble which is why I am enjoying the K545 so much. This would explain your enjoying the M500 so much, so I am glad you found a headphone you like.
post #1000 of 1723
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

Sofastreamer, I apologize I didn't realize you tried the K545 as well as the K845. If your hearing them the same then this just boils down to preference and buyers of the K845 can relax in the knowledge the K845 I the same as the K545 sonically speaking when using the cable.

I think your love of the 940 signature says it all. You prefer it brighter nature and the added detail it provides. I loved the 940 as well but I think my preference has changed since last year and I now prefer a more relaxed treble which is why I am enjoying the K545 so much. This would explain your enjoying the M500 so much, so I am glad you found a headphone you like.

+1 me too.

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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

first: i use the 845 with cable!!!
second: i compared 845 and 545 already! no difference when used with cable!!!

 lol that would have avoided the flood of defenses if mentioned first. You should try the NAD ... I just dont like on ears so I stayed away from those two.

post #1001 of 1723
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

first: i use the 845 with cable!!!
second: i compared 845 and 545 already! no difference when used with cable!!!

haahah that is really good to know. i am actually really interested in trying a bluetooth pair of headphones, so it's nice to hear that the wired sound quality of the k845 is the same as the k545. i'm guessing that you did a blind direct a/b comparison & couldn't hear any significant sound quality changes. :)

post #1002 of 1723


This is my hand drawn on phone attempt to depict the basic signatures of the SRH940 vs K545 vs K5550. Note the sharper initial downward slope of the K545 for subbass and the spike in the K550 to represent upper mids/lower treble. Also note most of the wiggling in the line reflects my hand and lack if tools LOL versus reflecting little variances in sonic sound. I do not think any of these are V shaped.
post #1003 of 1723
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post



This is my hand drawn on phone attempt to depict the basic signatures of the SRH940 vs K545 vs K5550. Note the sharper initial downward slope of the K545 for subbass and the spike in the K550 to represent upper mids/lower treble. Also note most of the wiggling in the line reflects my hand and lack if tools LOL versus reflecting little variances in sonic sound. I do not think any of these are V shaped.

I agree that none of them are close to v shaped. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 1/25/14 at 1:51pm
post #1004 of 1723
Right, no V shape in any of them. The one small dip upwards in the K545 is actually supposed to be there to represent a smaller less offensive spike in the upper mids as compared to the K550. If I had made a graph for the HP50 I would say it was similar to the K545 but with out as strong a peak in the sub bass and a peak in the lower midrange instead of the upper midrange.
post #1005 of 1723

Hi AKG K545 Owners, I have a question. I know it depends on individuales but How long do you guys wear the K545 until they get uncomfortable. Thanks

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