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post #826 of 1723
Thats bad. I've had fit issues in the past with many cans. The DT770 was the worst offender. Don't know between these and the fidelio l2.
post #827 of 1723

dang I guess making a headphone to fit is more difficult than I thought. The fit of the dt770 for me was one of its greatest pros.

 

I think the l2 and l1 are the same fit. I expect the l2 to best the k545 in transparency. The x1 does.

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Originally Posted by Citizen13469 View Post
 

Agreed so far. I have a 551 and got the 545 last night. 551 was only two days old so not much burn in on that one either. The 551 has a bigger stage and seems less veiled than the 545. The 551's were immediate love, the 545 not so much. I'm not sure it's just because the 545 has more bass. Even when eq'ing that out, they just don't seem as engaging as the 551 (so far).

 

I'm giving the 545's a few more days as I would like something more portable but so far it has sound issues.

 

One other note, the 545 is much more sensitive to losing its seal on my head when I look to the left or right or just barely move around. The 551's block more sound and I never hear the seal opening and closing like I do with the 545. Maybe its just my head..:)

lol this is funny to me. smaller soundstage yes but....

 

eq'ing bass out to make it more engaging lol i guess that is a weird taste for me... stay away from 90% of the headphones out there. I would put you on a Beyerdynamic t70p,Shure 1840,AKG K701.... I can't argue opinion there.

 

One being more detailed than the other though, that is arguable.... I seriously doubt you hear more details, low level noises, or less transparency with one than the other.:rolleyes: 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 1/9/14 at 7:59pm
post #828 of 1723
Instead of eq'ing the bass, you should EQ those high and upper mids up.
post #829 of 1723
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

lol this is funny to me. smaller soundstage yes but....

 

eq'ing bass out to make it more engaging lol i guess that is a weird taste for me... stay away from 90% of the headphones out there. I would put you on a Beyerdynamic t70p,Shure 1840,AKG K701.... I can't argue opinion there.

 

One being more detailed than the other though, that is arguable.... I seriously doubt you hear more details, low level noises, or less transparency with one than the other.:rolleyes: 

you missed the point. Bringing bass down was not done to make it more engaging, was just done to see if it could sound more "like" the 551. The 551 is more engaging based on many factors, "maybe" the lower bass response contributing in some way. Other factors include the physical design, resonance, size, padding depth etc. The combo of all the above so far lead me to enjoy the 551 more.

 

Also, I'm hearing the 545 as more veiled or less real sounding. Listening to them now, going to keep doing so for a few days to see if this opens up more. They are by no means "bad" at this price point.

 

As a note, other headphones sitting right here, DT770, Momentum, Amperior, SRH940, MA900, K550. 551 and 545 both are better to me than all except the MA900. Of course not fair to compare closed to open...

 

Surprisingly, if the 545 and 551 don't work out my next choice for portable will be the momentum. They sound pretty "so so" when listening at home, but when out walking around with lots of external noise their less critical bloaty relaxed nature seem to work pretty well. I'll take the 545's out this weekend and see how the signature feels when walking around.

post #830 of 1723
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

Instead of eq'ing the bass, you should EQ those high and upper mids up.

Running from Fiio X3 so only bass and treble. The 545's treble is already more spikey than the 551's which is why I'm hesitant to bring it up any more. It's strange, I've seen people complaining about the treble spike in the 550/551 and don't really have a problem on the sample of those two that I have.

 

The 545's I've got DO exhibit an offensive spike, but that is already calming down with a little use (only got them last night).  By the way, yes the 545 is spikey and veiled at the same time. Again when I use the word veiled I'm referring to something like presence or "real" sounding.

post #831 of 1723
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Originally Posted by Citizen13469 View Post
 

you missed the point. Bringing bass down was not done to make it more engaging, was just done to see if it could sound more "like" the 551. The 551 is more engaging based on many factors, "maybe" the lower bass response contributing in some way. Other factors include the physical design, resonance, size, padding depth etc. The combo of all the above so far lead me to enjoy the 551 more.

 

Also, I'm hearing the 545 as more veiled or less real sounding. Listening to them now, going to keep doing so for a few days to see if this opens up more. They are by no means "bad" at this price point.

 

As a note, other headphones sitting right here, DT770, Momentum, Amperior, SRH940, MA900, K550. 551 and 545 both are better to me than all except the MA900. Of course not fair to compare closed to open...

 

Surprisingly, if the 545 and 551 don't work out my next choice for portable will be the momentum. They sound pretty "so so" when listening at home, but when out walking around with lots of external noise their less critical bloaty relaxed nature seem to work pretty well. I'll take the 545's out this weekend and see how the signature feels when walking around.

 

oh i stand corrected....

 

so the k551 and k550 don't sound the same?!?! I didn't know that...

 

I thought they are the same so I take back what I said if they are not.. what are the differences sonically between the k551 and k550?

post #832 of 1723
The K550/551 does have better isolation due to thicker pads absolutely no doubt about that. I personally find the K545 gives me an easier seal but that will vary from person to person. I would say if you have been using the K55x for a while you need to spend a couple days just using the K545 to give your brain a chance to adjust and let the K545 burn in. If after doing that you find you just prefer the K55x signature then you know which one works best for you. I personally find the K545 more natural sounding but that is a personal preference just as your finding the K55x to sound more natural.

For me after using the K545 by itself for a couple days I found I could no longer stand my SRH1440 as well as SRH940, or K55x as they all sounded unnaturally bright and analytical and I used to LOVE that type of signature! I even found my UE900 to bright and overly sharp and analytical.
post #833 of 1723
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

 

oh i stand corrected....

 

so the k551 and k550 don't sound the same?!?! I didn't know that...

 

I thought they are the same so I take back what I said if they are not.. what are the differences sonically between the k551 and k550?

No worries, it's all good. It gave me a chance to better explain what I meant..:) Semantics and all that. 

 

Ok, now about the 550 and 551.. My two sound very different. I bought the 550 and fiddled with it enough to hear it's potential but I couldn't get a good seal and it really doesn't have that great of a soundstage. I have to note that this pair is a factory refurbished model, so something might be wrong with them. I tried stuffing the earpads to change the sound and lots of fiddling with fit. During this time I ordered a pair of 551's as I was interested in the shorter cable.

 

The 551's sat here unopened for about 3 days because I convinced myself that the 550/551 were just not for me. I had read a few posts from others stating that AKG may have done a silent upgrade to the design, or quality control got better but I didn't believe it.

 

Out of desperation I opened the 551's figuring I was going to pay a restocking charge anyway. Put them on my head and immediate difference. Sound stage was WAY better and I finally understood the people raving about it. I have had zero fit and seal issues with the 551. Literally plopped them on my head adjusted the head band once and everything is perfect.

 

So, I'm not sure if all 550's and 551's are different or if it's just build tolerances or silent upgrades but my two pair are very different!

 

My  551's have a "little" bit better bass but not as much as the 545. The upper mids also seem smoother than both the 550 and 545.

 

I feel that a lot of this is about build tolerance and quality control. I might be wrong but I feel like this particular pair of 551's are a good one. :)

 

For my three pair so far - 551 > 545 > 550.

 

Now having said that the diff between the 551 and 545 for preference is really small and I believe would be totally up to individual preferences. Again, only have a couple of hours listening time on my 545's so my opinion may change in the next day or so and it may come out on top. They are already sounding smoother in the upper ranges than they initially did.

 

The one thing that I'm concerned about with the 545 and that I'm not sure is going to improve is that when I move my head even slightly I can hear the seals around my ears opening and closing, making the sound hollow momentarily etc. I don't have this prob with the 551 at all (thicker pads I guess).

 

Anyway this is a thread about the 545 and trust me I WANT the 545 to be my fave because my purpose for this set is for a walk around set and I'd much rather be seen in the 545's..:) The 551's being large and silver, well, I feel a little ridiculous in public with them..:)

post #834 of 1723
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

The K550/551 does have better isolation due to thicker pads absolutely no doubt about that. I personally find the K545 gives me an easier seal but that will vary from person to person. I would say if you have been using the K55x for a while you need to spend a couple days just using the K545 to give your brain a chance to adjust and let the K545 burn in. If after doing that you find you just prefer the K55x signature then you know which one works best for you. I personally find the K545 more natural sounding but that is a personal preference just as your finding the K55x to sound more natural.

For me after using the K545 by itself for a couple days I found I could no longer stand my SRH1440 as well as SRH940, or K55x as they all sounded unnaturally bright and analytical and I used to LOVE that type of signature! I even found my UE900 to bright and overly sharp and analytical.

 

Totally agree on your point on the seal, makes sense. I will give the 545's a few days and keep this thread posted. Also echo your thoughts on the 940.

post #835 of 1723
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Originally Posted by Citizen13469 View Post
 

you missed the point. Bringing bass down was not done to make it more engaging, was just done to see if it could sound more "like" the 551. The 551 is more engaging based on many factors, "maybe" the lower bass response contributing in some way. Other factors include the physical design, resonance, size, padding depth etc. The combo of all the above so far lead me to enjoy the 551 more.

 

Also, I'm hearing the 545 as more veiled or less real sounding. Listening to them now, going to keep doing so for a few days to see if this opens up more. They are by no means "bad" at this price point.

 

As a note, other headphones sitting right here, DT770, Momentum, Amperior, SRH940, MA900, K550. 551 and 545 both are better to me than all except the MA900. Of course not fair to compare closed to open...

 

Surprisingly, if the 545 and 551 don't work out my next choice for portable will be the momentum. They sound pretty "so so" when listening at home, but when out walking around with lots of external noise their less critical bloaty relaxed nature seem to work pretty well. I'll take the 545's out this weekend and see how the signature feels when walking around.

yea, +1 on the bold. the criteria for portable on-the-go headphones are different from home listening. you really need to listen to em w/ external noise to see how it sounds :)

 

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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

oh i stand corrected.... so the k551 and k550 don't sound the same?!?! I didn't know that... I thought they are the same so I take back what I said if they are not.. what are the differences sonically between the k551 and k550?

They sound the same lol. they have the exact same drivers & same specs & same everything except one has a detachable cord vs one doesn't. if you have two pairs & think they sound different, it's probably just normal slight variation due to the manufacturing process. you can probably find that subtle sound difference between two pairs of k550s.

post #836 of 1723
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

For me after using the K545 by itself for a couple days I found I could no longer stand my SRH1440 as well as SRH940, or K55x as they all sounded unnaturally bright and analytical and I used to LOVE that type of signature! I even found my UE900 to bright and overly sharp and analytical.

 

I just love these headphones. They come very close to the ideal balance of detail and neutral FR. You can hear everything but your ears don't hurt. You can not only hear and "feel" the bottom end, you can also "see" it.

post #837 of 1723
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

I just love these headphones. They come very close to the ideal balance of detail and neutral FR. You can hear everything but your ears don't hurt. You can not only hear and "feel" the bottom end, you can also "see" it.

 

Now, Beagle. First you make me buy the T 51 P. And now the K545. Are you getting kickbacks?! Seriously, though, both are ordered. While I wait... I'd love to hear any comparative thoughts you have, and what you like about one more than the other. I hope to have comparative thoughts of my own in a week or so! 

post #838 of 1723
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

Now, Beagle. First you make me buy the T 51 P. And now the K545. Are you getting kickbacks?! Seriously, though, both are ordered. While I wait... I'd love to hear any comparative thoughts you have, and what you like about one more than the other. I hope to have comparative thoughts of my own in a week or so! 

hahaha don't blame anyone else for your purchasing habits!! =P

post #839 of 1723
I heard that IEMs can sound better than some headphones. I am looking at the AKG K3003, would them have better imaging than most headphones?
E.g from the likes of audio Technica, shure & grados? I am wondering if you can achieve headphone sound in IEM's because the reviews on the K3003 appear to tout is as the best thing since sliced bread.
post #840 of 1723

@lukalop you gotta remember to go to the thread of the headphone you are curious about to ask questions there. 

 

Here it is useless and you would have to look at all of our profiles to see if we have even had the hp or heard it. 

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