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post #691 of 1524
But os the sound sig similar to the momentums? I need a little bass and a some bpdy on the sound like on the momentums because i mostly listen to pop rock and also some large amount of edm. I also have a pair of hd25s and cal!s if that matters....
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yep! all of the above!
post #692 of 1524
We posted about the same time, hopefully my post answers your question. If my post makes your nervous go have a listen if possible. If not possible if you worried, the NAD HP50 might be another option to consider.
post #693 of 1524
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The seal might be the only area that will be off depending on your head size. Having said that they are a different sound signature so I recommend you try them out at Best Buy if your in the US.

Personally I enjoy the K545 more as it has more sub bass and less mid bass and in my opinion better treble. The lower midrange is less emphasized and the upper midrange is more emphasized in comparison to the Momentum.

 

IMO the k545 walks all over the Momentum. Every time I go back to the Momentum, it sounds boomy, boxed-in, cramped and constrained.

post #694 of 1524
I think it really depends on the style of music you listen to. If you're into boomy bass and want a stronger low end than go for the momentums, if you want better clearity and imaging than go for the K545's. I'm really cant wait till mine come, its going to be interesting to see how they pair with my Bellari Rolls amp.
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Every time I go back to the Momentum, it sounds boomy, boxed-in, cramped and constrained.

I'm starting to feel the same. 

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I'm starting to feel the same. 

this is why I wonder if the momentum became a bench mark for the new hp's that are coming out. Apart from the older sony, the p7, kef,NAD,k545, yamaha hph mt220, and philips l2 are making them sound bad ... well not as good... they can never sound bad... I still like them.

The momentum was my favorite closed back under 400, so far I have heard all of the above and they best it with the exception of the NAD and Philips which I haven't heard. 

 

I know I preferred the ones I compared it to over it but the k545 in my opinion easily bested the momentum.

post #697 of 1524
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

We posted about the same time, hopefully my post answers your question. If my post makes your nervous go have a listen if possible. If not possible if you worried, the NAD HP50 might be another option to consider.

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IMO the k545 walks all over the Momentum. Every time I go back to the Momentum, it sounds boomy, boxed-in, cramped and constrained.

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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post

I'm starting to feel the same. 
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

We posted about the same time, hopefully my post answers your question. If my post makes your nervous go have a listen if possible. If not possible if you worried, the NAD HP50 might be another option to consider.

First of all thank you all very much for all your replys.... To be honest i kind of like the momentums tuning, although yes i have to admit that specially on edm they sound a bit slow and sloppy when compared for instance with the hd25s, although, even though they are a slower and more laidback headphone and to be honest the resolution on them is the best o tried so far (listening to biffy clyros latest album for example the guitars sound amazing and almost tactile). I also do agree that the soundstage on the momentums is not that good.... Amazing when compared with and hd25, but i guess even the cals have better soundstage.

To be honest i only tried a couple of headphones and the list is short so here it goes what i had or demoed so far:

Mdr v6, akg k518, cals, over ear momentums, ath m50, hd25.
I also had tried the hd598, 558 and 518
I also tried some beats and some cheaper senns but the most important ones are already listed.

I found the v6s cool for edm but too bright and agressive for rock or pop, the k518s too bassy and muddy and with rollled off highs, the ath !50 i did not like them very much, they were not bad, but they were too big and it was like, bass, weird rolled off mids and a forward but i guess not bery natural treble. I like the hd25s but i do admit that the highs are sometime too much (but bareable and definitly better than on the m50s') and they sound a tad grainy when compared to the momentums. At first i did not like the cals because i thought the treble was too little, but i got used to it, also had the same impression with the momentums but right now i think the highs are just about right (a middle between the hd25s and the momentums is more than enough treble for me).

I liked the hd598 better than the 558 and the hd518 because of the very refined mids and highs, but i missed the body of thw momentums on their sound and also i was left with the impression that they also sounded a tad grainy next to the momentums but i tried them in a store so without total silence its hard to judge....

All of them were used on my nexus 7 or 4th gen ipod touch and i have no amps.

Unfortunately i never had the chance to try the k550 and the k545s because they are not available for testing here in portugal. Its amazon or nothing my friends... :-)

At firs ti thought of selling the momentums, keeping the hd25's as an all rounder and i also thought it was a good idea to buy something better for home use... something superior or at least equivalent to the momentums but with much better confort and seal.

I was about to buy a pair of k550's or a pair of hd598's a couple of weeks ago as a replacement to my momentums (something similar or better in terms of sound quality) with the momey of the momentums for home use (the hd25's would become my main portbale) but i ended up giving up because i was affraid that both did not have the low end body presence that the momentums have (at least a bit) and also i was a bit affraid of the seal on the k550s....

If you guys say that the k545s have more low end and a similar sound sig with better resolutions and soundstage than the momentums (and also as portable and with better seal) i guess i am in... smily_headphones1.gif

I really do love the momentums and i would really keep them if there was an alternative like the XL pads on the v-modas. I really tried hard to forget about the seal issues and the confort but in the although the sound was fabulous i ended up paying more attention to the loss of seal and ho that reflected itself on the bass response everytime i turned my head....
Edited by Pedro Oliveira - 12/27/13 at 8:15pm
post #698 of 1524
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I agree with most of your statements but I do find the HD598 to be pretty full bodied though. In fact, I really love those headphone except for the slightly grainy sound with certain music. Other than that, the vocals are well presented. Momentum on the other hand, lacks tight bass and soundstage. I find it decently detailed for what it is. IMO, it's designed to be portable not for critical reference listening. If you want something like that and in a closed format, I am sure the AKG K550 will satisfy you... with a tube amp or warm SS amp. 

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I will not say that it has more quantity.. a better presentation maybe but I don't know about quantity. Soundstage definitely, The seal is decent and fit ears better than the momentum but it is not a leap either. They are better though for sure and sound more natural/realistic. If you want more bass than the momentum with a fit over the whole ear you can try the yamaha hph mt220 which has better soundstage than both but the mids aren't as clear at first and need a little burn in. (i did modd it to fix that though and it sound really good which is why i took it down from sale). I will say that over all though the k545 is definitely is step up from the momentum. The build is just as good, the cups are larger, I like the way the look in person, the bass has a similar presence, maybe tighter but not as boomy(from memory) better soundstage and instrument separation(for a fact) and clearer sound. I also know that the k545 responds better to amping than the momentum. The momentum didn't do squat with an amp. The k545 should be more scalable. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 12/27/13 at 8:24pm
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I will not say that it has more quantity.. a better presentation maybe but I don't know about quantity. Soundstage definitely, The seal is decent and fit ears better than the momentum but it is not a leap either. They are better though for sure and sound more natural/realistic. If you want more bass than the momentum with a fit over the whole ear you can try the yamaha hph mt220 which has better soundstage than both but the mids aren't as clear (i did modd it to fix that though and it sound really good which is why i took it down from sale). I will say that over all though the k545 is definitely is step up from the momentum. The build is just as good, the cups are larger, I like the way the look in person, the bass has a similar presence, maybe tighter but not as boomy(from memory) better soundstage and instrument separation(for a fact) and clearer sound. I also know that the k545 responds better to amping than the momentum. The momentum didn't do squat with an amp. The k545 should be more scalable. 

The bass quantity on the momentums is more than enough. If tthe bass stayed between the hd25's tightness and the momentums rumble, that would be more than enough.

Would they be easily driven on my ipod?

If the pads hole are cal! large i guess its enough....


Edited by Pedro Oliveira - 12/27/13 at 8:36pm
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The bass quantity on the momentums are more than enough. If tthe bass stayed between the hd25's tightness and the momentums rumble, that would be more than enough.

Would they be easily driven on my ipod?

If the pads hole are cal! large i guess its enough....

yep and yep, not much rumble but enough bass for me for sure. I listen to a lot of hip hop, reggae, and bass heavy music and they do fine, not ideal for a bass head but better than a lot. Never heard the hd25. someone else should chime in there. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 12/27/13 at 8:30pm
post #702 of 1524
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this is why I wonder if the momentum became a bench mark for the new hp's that are coming out. Apart from the older sony, the p7, kef,NAD,k545, yamaha hph mt220, and philips l2 are making them sound bad ... well not as good... they can never sound bad... I still like them.

The momentum was my favorite closed back under 400, so far I have heard all of the above and they best it with the exception of the NAD and Philips which I haven't heard. 

 

I know I preferred the ones I compared it to over it but the k545 in my opinion easily bested the momentum.

IMO the K550 fixes everything that the Momentum is lacking but with less body. That's how I ended up with my Annie and am now living happy xD

post #703 of 1524
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post
 

I agree with most of your statements but I do find the HD598 to be pretty full bodied though. In fact, I really love those headphone except for the slightly grainy sound with certain music. Other than that, the vocals are well presented. Momentum on the other hand, lacks tight bass and soundstage. I find it decently detailed for what it is. IMO, it's designed to be portable not for critical reference listening. If you want something like that and in a closed format, I am sure the AKG K550 will satisfy you... with a tube amp or warm SS amp. 

 

I kind of wanted to be amp free billson.... :)
About the hd598's, as i said i tried them a couple of weeks ago, at first it was impossible to test them because i had a 4k tv displaying a muse concert (the one also shot in 4k) in absolutely ridiculous volume (it was before christmas, the had to impress peolple..... XD )....
 
I asked the guy from the store to take the hd598 to a room with home amplifiers and hifi sistems since it was a bit quieter.... still i heard a bit background noise (christmas time is terrible to test open headphones on stores).... so as i told you on another thread those were my impressions but since the conditions were not perfect i cannot determine for sure if i would had the same feeling towards their low end body if i was alone at home with no noise whatsoever,...
post #704 of 1524
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yep and yep, not much rumble but enough bass for me for sure. I listen to a lot of hip hop, reggae, and bass heavy music and they do fine, not ideal for a bass head but better than a lot. Never heard the hd25. someone else should chime in there. 

Imagine the punchy bass from a pair of v6's or 7506 but a bit more forward....

post #705 of 1524
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post
 

IMO the K550 fixes everything that the Momentum is lacking but with less body. That's how I ended up with my Annie and am now living happy xD

makes sense. It was the lack of body though that killed the k550 for me and its lack of bass. When I first heard them I was like " what the... these probably need an amp"

 

Then I heard the momentum and was like okay these are the best hp's in that price I have heard.

 

after that I heard the k545 and was like whoa they destroy the momentums for me.

 

It sounds like the annies would be awesome for me because of the body, soundstage, and open, airy benefits of an open back. I am eyeing the akg k712 to accompany a th600 later and be done for a while but I don't want two hp's with piercing highs. Maybe I should look at the annie. If the yamaha wasn't here I would easily be cool with just the k545. Its a good hp for sure and its looks destroy the competition. They feel so solid like they will last. I also never hear of k550's breaking easily either. 

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