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post #601 of 1725
@dweavergreat comparison. so both are better than the Momentum in your opinion? lol
post #602 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

OK had a chance to listen to the NAD VISO P50 today.
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Build and comfort wise it looks awesome and seems solid but the cup was smaller than the K545, enough so I was concerned about pain for long listening sessions.

Sound wise I thought it was as good as the K545 but different. It is good enough and different enough I may consider buying it as an alternative to the K545. In my mind they are the 2 best portable headphones I have heard.

Bass - the K545 went deeper but had slightly less volume, the P50 had more mid bass but not in an excess way.

Midrange - The K545 has an emphasis higher up in the midrange, the P50 has an emphasis at a lower point in the midrange. The difference being voices were warmer on the P50 and cymbals had more emphasis on the initial crash while the K545 had more emphasis on the sizzle and decay. I found the P50 a bit harsh on a few songs and was turning them down to compensate.

Treble - I actually found these to quite similar treble responses, liking them both equally.

Sound stage - I think they both have excellent sound stages but the P50 does a a bit better job of creating an out of head sound. The K545 is what I would call a bit more analytical the P50 a bit more organic.

The level of detail between the phones was very similar except that each presented things a bit differently based on my signature descriptions above.

Bottom line sonically. If you have issues with upper mids/lower treble the P50 is a safer option. If you find a bit lower mids to be "shouty" then the K545 might be a better option. If you not sure which one you will like and can't audition them, FLIP A COIN!! because the odds are will like either one wink.gif

Before I forget. All my testing was done using John's K120 using 24bit FLAC files. The player was stunning ($1400 price it should be!!!) So both headphones were represented in the absolute best possibly scenario source wise.

One final point. The P50 was a much more efficient headphone needing quite a bit less volume as compared to the K545.

I won't be rushing out to buy the P50 but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up owning a pair some day.

 

Great feedback. How about overall design, ergonomic and build quality.

post #603 of 1725
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@Beagle, my comments were not meant to be back-handed or offensive, so I apologize if I offended you. I just meant it's cool how passionate you get about your new headphones. I also didn't mean hype in a negative sense lol. I personally am super hyped about these headphones & jumpin on dat train right now (...or at least whenever I get more $$$)!!! :D hahaha. your comments & impressions are always pretty helpful & appreciated because of your extensive headphone background.

 

just side note, I just don't think really nice to bring up other discussions from other threads to discredit people. I personally don't think anything I've said on other threads (ex: pro 500 or ultrasone pro dj) were out of line. I never made comments about SQ when I didn't own the headphones; just observations about price & questioning how worth it certain headphones are compared to similar cheaper alternatives. I know I pissed off a few head-fiers in those threads, but I never had any ill-intent & I think those kinds of discussions are always really helpful for potential buyers with limited funds weighing different options.

 

blah... i always thought those headphone inventory lists were kinda pretentious, but @grizzlybeast & beagle, you guys make a good point. I actually have recently found myself checking headphone lists to see what the reviewer's background is. sooo finish updating profile now lol... if anyone wants to check it out :P

Sorry to slightly derail the thread hahah. Ready to read more akg k545 impressions :popcorn: 

 

 

Good stuff.

:beerchug:

post #604 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

OK had a chance to listen to the NAD VISO P50 today.
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Build and comfort wise it looks awesome and seems solid but the cup was smaller than the K545, enough so I was concerned about pain for long listening sessions.

Sound wise I thought it was as good as the K545 but different. It is good enough and different enough I may consider buying it as an alternative to the K545. In my mind they are the 2 best portable headphones I have heard.

Bass - the K545 went deeper but had slightly less volume, the P50 had more mid bass but not in an excess way.

Midrange - The K545 has an emphasis higher up in the midrange, the P50 has an emphasis at a lower point in the midrange. The difference being voices were warmer on the P50 and cymbals had more emphasis on the initial crash while the K545 had more emphasis on the sizzle and decay. I found the P50 a bit harsh on a few songs and was turning them down to compensate.

Treble - I actually found these to quite similar treble responses, liking them both equally.

Sound stage - I think they both have excellent sound stages but the P50 does a a bit better job of creating an out of head sound. The K545 is what I would call a bit more analytical the P50 a bit more organic.

The level of detail between the phones was very similar except that each presented things a bit differently based on my signature descriptions above.

Bottom line sonically. If you have issues with upper mids/lower treble the P50 is a safer option. If you find a bit lower mids to be "shouty" then the K545 might be a better option. If you not sure which one you will like and can't audition them, FLIP A COIN!! because the odds are will like either one wink.gif

Before I forget. All my testing was done using John's K120 using 24bit FLAC files. The player was stunning ($1400 price it should be!!!) So both headphones were represented in the absolute best possibly scenario source wise.

One final point. The P50 was a much more efficient headphone needing quite a bit less volume as compared to the K545.

I won't be rushing out to buy the P50 but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up owning a pair some day.

 

 

Great impressions dweaver! Thanks.

post #605 of 1725
I liked the build quality of the P50, the cups are plastic but seem to be good quality plastic and the band is metal. The cups were smaller than I thought though and while bigger and more comfortable than the Momentum they were reminiscent of them fit wise.

I definitely prefer both of these headphones to the Momentum smily_headphones1.gif

To be clear I prefer the comfort and design of the K545.
Edited by dweaver - 12/18/13 at 7:36pm
post #606 of 1725
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I definitely prefer both of these headphones to the Momentum smily_headphones1.gif

good to know. though if i recall correctly, your primary concern against the momentum was related to comfort rather than sound...

post #607 of 1725
You are correct but having heard the P50 and the K545 I really do prefer both of them over the Momentum from a sound perspective. The P50's fit was close enough to the Momentum that I am concerned about it the same way I was about the Momentum though, just not as much, as I did find it not quite as sore on my ears. The best way to describe it is the Momentum pretty much sat on the edge of my ears while the P50 is over my ears but the edge of my ears was touching it.
post #608 of 1725
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You are correct but having heard the P50 and the K545 I really do prefer both of them over the Momentum from a sound perspective. The P50's fit was close enough to the Momentum that I am concerned about it the same way I was about the Momentum though, just not as much, as I did find it not quite as sore on my ears. The best way to describe it is the Momentum pretty much sat on the edge of my ears while the P50 is over my ears but the edge of my ears was touching it

good, I hope its not from a smell perspective. lol just playing thank you for the impressions!

 

and for  making me want to try out another hp. 

some said the NAD is bass light for their tastes. How would you say the akg k545 and NAD's bass compare to the momentum in sheer QUANTITY. 

 

Thanks 

post #609 of 1725
Hmmm to be honest I can't remember the bass of the Momentum enough off the top of my head to make that comparison.
post #610 of 1725
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Hmmm to be honest I can't remember the bass of the Momentum enough off the top of my head to make that comparison.

I distinctly remember the Momentum having more bass quantity vs the akg k550 (though i preferred the k550 bass quality lol), but since people here are saying the k545 also has more bass quantity than the k550, i dunno how helpful that is :o 

 

edit: i was fortunate enough to do a extensive side-by-side comparison between the momentums & k550, and I ended up preferring the k550. they were just too big for portable use hahaah. enter k545 :normal_smile : seems like the headphone gods do grant wishes! =P


Edited by money4me247 - 12/18/13 at 11:43pm
post #611 of 1725

yeah the momentum for me killed the k550.... but it did do several things better than the momentum. I distinctly remember liking them but then hating them after the momentum. The k545 is the not the same. It sounded better than the momentum to me. I just couldn't get a good idea of the bass quantity from the store visit. I think the momentum had more. 

 

I saw this review of them and wow... what a crappy review IMO but then again he loves the jbl synchros s700 that I read on cnet sounds worse than the beats pro so take it as it is. 

video review i found (Click to show)
Edited by grizzlybeast - 12/19/13 at 12:10am
post #612 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

OK had a chance to listen to the NAD VISO P50 today.

Build and comfort wise it looks awesome and seems solid but the cup was smaller than the K545, enough so I was concerned about pain for long listening sessions.

Sound wise I thought it was as good as the K545 but different. It is good enough and different enough I may consider buying it as an alternative to the K545. In my mind they are the 2 best portable headphones I have heard.

Bass - the K545 went deeper but had slightly less volume, the P50 had more mid bass but not in an excess way.

Midrange - The K545 has an emphasis higher up in the midrange, the P50 has an emphasis at a lower point in the midrange. The difference being voices were warmer on the P50 and cymbals had more emphasis on the initial crash while the K545 had more emphasis on the sizzle and decay. I found the P50 a bit harsh on a few songs and was turning them down to compensate.

Treble - I actually found these to quite similar treble responses, liking them both equally.

Sound stage - I think they both have excellent sound stages but the P50 does a a bit better job of creating an out of head sound. The K545 is what I would call a bit more analytical the P50 a bit more organic.

The level of detail between the phones was very similar except that each presented things a bit differently based on my signature descriptions above.

Bottom line sonically. If you have issues with upper mids/lower treble the P50 is a safer option. If you find a bit lower mids to be "shouty" then the K545 might be a better option. If you not sure which one you will like and can't audition them, FLIP A COIN!! because the odds are will like either one wink.gif

Before I forget. All my testing was done using John's K120 using 24bit FLAC files. The player was stunning ($1400 price it should be!!!) So both headphones were represented in the absolute best possibly scenario source wise.

One final point. The P50 was a much more efficient headphone needing quite a bit less volume as compared to the K545.

I won't be rushing out to buy the P50 but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up owning a pair some day.

This is some great feedback, thanks for posting!  

 

One small correction, you may want to update the model to HP50, so that it comes up when somebody searches by model.  :) 

post #613 of 1725
I will fix that tonight when I have time.
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post #615 of 1725

I am also very interested in other opinions between K545 and Momentum.

What about the soundstage, accuracy and dynamics ? Thanx.

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