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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by djd97 View Post

I can definitely see your point, however i currently have beats solos that i got as a gift one year, and i find them very uncomfortable after a while. So, at least with full size headphones you get a better sound quality/better isolation. Since theres a trade-off either way, although, not all headphones are the same, so some won't be as uncomfortable and some won't get as hot, but still, since i can't try any headphone on for hours, i have to make the assumption theirs a trade off either way, and i'd rather it get too hot then just be painful to wear. Worst case scenario, i take them off and put ice on my ears for a couple minutes, and they'll be nice and cold again. 

 

Also, is there a way to compare headphones via just a spec sheet (i'm used to camera/computer/phones/not highly opinion based stuff), which is pretty much why headphones are the only thing i've ever actually had to ask for advice on. 

Another option is an IEM(in the ear isolating earphone) that isolates well. This would be my choice for use on a plane, train, or bus. I wouldn't use it walking around though, as I would want to use an earphone without isolation in order to hear my surroundings for safety reasons. The sports earphones with earhooks are my favorite choice for walking around. The earphones that don't isolate and don't have ear hooks fall out much too easily when one is active.

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

Frequency response, transient response and dB sensitivity or drivability. FR will be a graph showing you what frequencies are emphasized on a particular pair of headphone (aka Beats are waaaay bass heavy), TR will be a measurement of the speed of the driver (how fast the driver responds to the audio signal), and dB sensitivity will help determine whether or not you'll need an amplifier to power them (goes hand in hand with impedance). These are really generic descriptions, however.

So pretty much what i expected, since its sound, its very opinion based. 

 

I've been going over ijokerl's List, albeit its a little outdated (or a lot depending on what he changed when he last edited it), but it has a good number of the headphones i'd be looking at, and from what i see:

-The Q40s are good don't isolate particularly well, nor are they comfortable. Of course thats just his opinion, something which i'll test out on my own. 

-ATH-ES10 and M50s are both pretty much the same with the ES10s having a slight edge in sound and M50s having a slight edge in build quality, and from the looks of it portability as well. 

-V Moda M-100 (not listed), but looks to be one of the best choices from reviews i'm reading, the only reason i'd probably go in the other direction is price, i'd rather not spend $300 if its only marginally better. 

 

So, based on ijoker, the M50s seem to be the best choice, but then again, its a quite outdated list, and its not all-encompassing. Plus its just another opinion, and so its no more valid than any other....

 

Damn i miss researching SLRs, fact sheets are just soooo nice. 

 

Edit: Will any of these (Q40, M50, ES10, M100) need an additional amp? I'm thinking V Moda M100s vs. ATH M50, unless i should go some other way. And i'll probably end up siding with the M50s since they are quite a bit cheaper. 


Edited by djd97 - 7/1/13 at 11:43am
post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by JK1 View Post

Another option is an IEM(in the ear isolating earphone) that isolates well. This would be my choice for use on a plane, train, or bus. I wouldn't use it walking around though, as I would want to use an earphone without isolation in order to hear my surroundings for safety reasons. The sports earphones with earhooks are my favorite choice for walking around. The earphones that don't isolate and don't have ear hooks fall out much too easily when one is active.

I currently have Klipsh S2s, and the problem i have with in-ear headphones, is that even the most comfortable get uncomfortable after a while. Plus, when i travel it tends to be quite long distances, so i rarely use in-ear when traveling (just have them as a backup). Personally, i mainly use in-ear when i'm going on a short bus/car/train ride. As for earhooks, i find those down right irritating, but then again, i've also never had a decent pair.

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by djd97 View Post

 

Edit: Will any of these (Q40, M50, ES10, M100) need an additional amp? I'm thinking V Moda M100s vs. ATH M50, unless i should go some other way. And i'll probably end up siding with the M50s since they are quite a bit cheaper. 

The Q40, M50, and M100 will not need an amp. As far as comfort on the Q40's goes, most of the gripe is due to the clamping pressure and the thin stock pads. However, spending another $12 on Shure 840 pads will make a huge difference. Not only are they more comfortable due to the thicker pad (more room for your ear), but they sound great and they provide better isolation by being oval shaped instead of circular. I can't recommend these enough.

post #20 of 21
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Alright well, any songs in particular that you can think that would be good to test them out? (song/s that cover everything from lowest lows to highest highs).

post #21 of 21

That's really up to the listener. I typically use "Draw the Line" by Haywyre and "The Package" by A Perfect Circle. The Package is a great one to tell whether or not you got a V-shaped frequency response or not -- which the M50's supposedly have. What this means is that the bass and highs are emphasized while the midrange is recessed (making a V-shape). A V-shaped headphone cannot reproduce the vocals in The Package very well. The bass line is there, but his voice will sound like it doesn't have as much presence. These are just two examples, but if you do not want the bass to drown out the rest of the spectrum, you may not like the M50's. The Q40's have huge bass while protecting the midrange. In fact, I've only listened to one other headphone do this as well as they do (and even a little better at that) and that's the Philips Fidelio X1. Most other bass heavy headphones have a recessed midrange (DT770's, M50's, Beats, etc.). This isn't necessarily a bad thing though. If you listen to a lot of hiphop, rap, or EDM, you may find that the midrange isn't as used as the bass and the highs, so there may be no need for it. Or, rather, the contrast of the huge bass and highs compared to the quiet midrange will provide for a "fun" listen, as the headphones sound a little more "impressive" so to speak.  Personally, I listen to too wide of a range of music to prefer that sound because I need to have vocal presence. I should also mention that, despite their reputation, I don't find the M-100's to be "basshead" cans. They extend very deep but they do not over emphasize the bass at all IMO.

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