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post #421 of 909
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

Well you know what they say... if you want more bass, just increase the clamping force.

 

I thought it was "All toasters toast toast."

post #422 of 909
If I squeeze any tighter, it starts to get congested, sound stage get a lot smaller and plain uncomfortable. And definitely not doing a headband to squeeze any tighter... Just looks funny to me.
post #423 of 909
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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

If I squeeze any tighter, it starts to get congested, sound stage get a lot smaller and plain uncomfortable. And definitely not doing a headband to squeeze any tighter... Just looks funny to me.

I agree, the "clamping pressure" adjustment is only good if the headphones feel loose. If they have typical clamping pressure then that's enough to get maximum benefit. Beyond that, and the sound does get compromised, as you describe. I found the metal headband was easy enough to bend, creating the ideal pressure.

More importantly, bass-shy or not the SE-A1000s were amazing to listen to last night. Pretty Lights "A Color Map of the Sun" really showed off the precision and dynamics that headphone is capable of. Academic discussions took the back seat to transcendent listening pleasure.

Today the SE-A1000 gets some beefy new amplification. One more round of AKG K701 vs. Pioneer SE-A1000. biggrin.gif
post #424 of 909
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Originally Posted by CrystalT View Post

what are your reference tracks? I'll be the judge of that myself.

At the end of the day, open-back headphones are not going to compete with closed-back in the bass department. Relax. The A1000 performs like a $350+ pair of AKG 7__, which is pretty darned spectacular in my book. In my own collection, Monster Inspire, Denon AH-D600, Sennheiser HD380... even the Creative Aurvana Live beat the SE-A1000 in the bass dept. But that's not the point, the SE-A1000 beat all those headphones in terms of the overall listening experience.

Still a good chance today's amp upgrade brings some more bass response to the table.
Edited by imagic - 7/17/13 at 6:21am
post #425 of 909

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Originally Posted by Vidmaven View Post


If you had read thru the entire thread you would have seen Warren's mod for the headband that greatly improves the fit.

 

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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

How many times are you going to say that? Once on page 27, three times on page 26,  once on page 25.....

 

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Originally Posted by CrystalT View Post

Because people clearly don't read.

 

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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

Yeah... The bass just isn't enough. Wish there was a solution wink.gif

But I don't want a vise grip on my head. Even when applying pressure with my hands on the cups, bass response was still subpar. Mid bass thump was still non existent but sub bass rumble got a tad better but not by much. Applying more pressure isn't really a fix but helps out a tad bit.

But this was my mod to increase clamping force. I drilled a hole where the slit for the original ribbon goes through. I substituted some hair scrunchy tie things. Had to cut a hole through the head band thing to slip the hair tie through. Then wrapped the hair tie around the peg holder thing under the screwed cover as many times as possible to have a nice tight fit and clamp pressure.





 

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Originally Posted by CrystalT View Post

Then likely the tracks you're listening to don't have a lot of bass quantity, hon.

Most of my bassy tracks have quite the rumble.

 

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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

 

 

 

LOL, I have nothing more to say here.

post #426 of 909
Thread Starter 

LOL

post #427 of 909
Can opener is in the signal chain. It's getting better all the time. Want more bass out of the SE-A1000? Treat them like any other high-end cans and get a better HP amp and DAC. biggrin.gifsmily_headphones1.gifcool.gif
post #428 of 909
If my magni + modi stack is good enough for my other cans then it's good enough for the pioneers I think.
post #429 of 909
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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

If my magni + modi stack is good enough for my other cans then it's good enough for the pioneers I think.

I'm pretty sure we're on the same page regarding these cans, plus or minus 5%. I don't expect to get much more out of them, but they are worthy of dedicated HP amplification. The K701s sound a bit more precise, but also a bit more clinical. I'd still rate the Pioneers as an "unbeatable" value, if one accepts the limitations of their design.
Edited by imagic - 7/17/13 at 5:30pm
post #430 of 909
After doing some burn in for 2 days straight. Bass response has improved to tolerable. It's still a tad slow but it's gotten better. The treble still need to open up a bit. Will have to try some Beyer gels or maybe fa-03 pads on them
post #431 of 909
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

Can opener is in the signal chain. It's getting better all the time. Want more bass out of the SE-A1000? Treat them like any other high-end cans and get a better HP amp and DAC. biggrin.gifsmily_headphones1.gifcool.gif

I've been using them with a Dynalo + dedicated power supply and a presonus central station or gamma2 dac. I've been "treating them" like a "higher-end" headphone. popcorn.gif

post #432 of 909
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

Can opener is in the signal chain. It's getting better all the time. Want more bass out of the SE-A1000? Treat them like any other high-end cans and get a better HP amp and DAC. biggrin.gifsmily_headphones1.gifcool.gif

 

I wholeheartedly second this.  I'm driving them with an RSA DarkStar right now, and frankly, the sound is amazing!  Yeah, I know the price difference between the amp and the cans, but the pairing is nothing short of astounding.

post #433 of 909
I just got a "ruined" 5ft long 6 conductor OFC mini to mini and going to salvage them for recabling.

Has anyone removed the round felt filter cover over the driver from under the pad? It seems excessively thick and have a feeling it's contributing to that slight roll off. Might try some thinner felt.


Edited by TekeRugburn - 7/17/13 at 7:56pm
post #434 of 909
K I just ripped off the felt covers to find another foam cover underneath lol. Left then foams on.

Now It seems that slight roll off in the treble has opened up immensely, might even be too bright/harsh now so i have to find a thinner substitute




Edited by TekeRugburn - 7/17/13 at 9:24pm
post #435 of 909
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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

I just got a "ruined" 5ft long 6 conductor OFC mini to mini and going to salvage them for recabling.

Has anyone removed the round felt filter cover over the driver from under the pad? It seems excessively thick and have a feeling it's contributing to that slight roll off. Might try some thinner felt.
 

Yep, I have. Removed the felt, replaced it with Beyer's dust covers tucked inside of J-money pads, much improved to my ears.

 

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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

After doing some burn in for 2 days straight. Bass response has improved to tolerable. It's still a tad slow but it's gotten better. The treble still need to open up a bit. Will have to try some Beyer gels or maybe fa-03 pads on them

Tried the gels (clear ones), made  them sound muted and lifeless.

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