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I'm guessing that the  (Sennheiser HD650 for $45?) in the thread title probably isn't received well by many of the more experienced Head-Fi members.  I haven't heard the HD650 myself.....I've only had HD201, PX100, and PX90 from Sennheiser, so the accuracy of the title cannot be proven or disproven by me.

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This probably belongs in another thread but I recently acquired some cheap "Andrew Jones designed" Pioneer speakers (sp-b22-lr + sw8mk2) and they provide some really great sound for their price.  Whereas many of the "old school" brands have cheaped out over the years resulting in poor price/performance products, Pioneer seems to have found a way to not only lower their manufacturing costs, but also improve or maintain the overall quality.  

 

Whatever Pioneer has been doing has resulted in some really stellar products for their price, however I get the impression that they may not be selling so well.  They have this really cool looking Integrated amp (a-20) that materialized on the market for only a small period of time only to mysteriously vanish and never make it to retailers, I still wonder how it sounds. I truly hope that they can keep it up because they really deserve more credit IMO.


Edited by Mr.Sneis - 7/5/13 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by CrystalT View Post

what you like is an allrounder, or a neutral can, then. if you're looking for something with exceptional bass, you have to sacrifice other aspects, or you get clipping, or mud. headphones can't have gobs of bass, liquid mids, and transparent highs all at the same time. not without dedicated drivers, anyways.

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Actually, I'm reviewing a pair of cans that (rather amazingly) *almost* has that.  But it's $800, so it costs WAY more than the SE-A1000.

^ Exactly warren, that's the common misconception many have cuz who saids you can't have it all for cheap??? NONSENSE!!! 

 

Yeppp an all rounder that does everything well and with justice is indeed hard to find esp. if you are don't wanna pay an arm and a leg. It's almost like searching for the holy grail of headphones. But i believe it's out there and can be had for a reasonable price of less than $300. Isn't what this thread was all about, Zadark!!! deadhorse.gif

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@ sfwalcer.

I did a quick A and B with the s400 and I'm sad to report the SE-A1000's bass is not as good as the S400. On hiphop/rap the S400's bass hits harder, it has more authority to it. But for an open headphone the SE-A1000 bass is pretty good, it's great for most music genre outside the bass heavy genre like rap or dubstep, etc.

 

I only heard the HD650 a few times but I don't think I would rank these ahead of them and even though I like these just as much as the HE-400 I wouldn't rank these ahead of them either,  but it really does say a lot about a $50 headphone if it's being compared to higher end headphones.


Edited by RoMee - 7/5/13 at 10:01am
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@ sfwalcer.

I did a quick A and B with the s400 and I'm sad to report the SE-A1000's bass is not as good as the S400. On hiphop/rap the S400's bass hits harder, it has more authority to it. But for an open headphone the SE-A1000 bass is pretty good, it's great for most music genre outside the bass heavy genre like rap or dubstep, etc.


Oh wow. :  (

 

Guess the verdict is out.

 

Thanks RoMee for the hard work!!! beerchug.gif

 

Let me know if it changes with further burn in, but most importantly are you satisfied with the lows on these??? Forget about their cheapo price, etc do you see these as your go to cans on a regular basis cuz you seem to like similar sound signatures as me. Hope it's not just another FOTM for you. :)

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 


Let me know if it changes with further burn in, but most importantly are you satisfied with the lows on these??? Forget about their cheapo price, etc do you see these as your go to cans on a regular basis cuz you seem to like similar sound signatures as me. Hope it's not just another FOTM for you. :)

Yes, I'm satisfied with the lows, and yes these will be in my regular rotation. My MDR-1R is what I normally use when listening to not so bassy music but these will probably replace them.

I love these with my guilty pleasure music like The Script or 3 Doors Down, or Gym Class Heroes, even old school R&B like Boys II Men.

 

Personally the JVC S500 still offers more for the money, but this is just me, I don't expect anyone else to feel the same way and this is based on the music I listen to. 


Edited by RoMee - 7/5/13 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

Yes, I'm satisfied with the lows, and yes these will be in my regular rotation. My MDR-1R is what I normally use when listening to not so bassy music but these will probably replace them.

I love these with my guilty pleasure music like The Script or 3 Doors Down, or Gym Class Heroes, even old school R&B like Boys II Men.

 

Personally the JVC S500 still offers more for the money, but this is just me, I don't expect anyone else to feel the same way and this is based on the music I listen to. 

 

It was only a matter of time before somebody said that. biggrin.gif

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Cheapos as in price, durrr!!!

 

And being a flagship don't mean a thang, cuz they can still sound like poo. Lots of other trusted brandnames have had made these mistakes in the past/ present regarding iems and cans. Just looks at the new Denon lineup. LMAO Price and status is sometimes irrelevant due to greedy mofos that try to milk the market with hype/ crap products.

 

Why can't i be a basshead audiophile??? Hence the term "totalphile" is most accurate in what i am and looking for. I know i know i is just a greedy mofo cuz i want it all. ksc75smile.gif

as someone who is, by definition ALONE, an audiophile (I hate the term now, because it's associated with high snobbery and disconnectedness) I love "totalphile"!!  I'm completely

w/ you: I'm a basshead audiophile.  I want coherency, hence realism.  And I LOVE bass

 

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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post

as someone who is, by definition ALONE, an audiophile (I hate the term now, because it's associated with high snobbery and disconnectedness) I love "totalphile"!!  I'm completely

w/ you: I'm a basshead audiophile.  I want coherency, hence realism.  And I LOVE bass

 


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@ RoMee

 

WoW that's pretty high praise, i might get these cheapos if my trade for the Philips X1's falls through. Fingers crossed!!!

 

@ Mr. dead

 

ikr, S500 FTW!!! You crack me up sometimes.

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I prefer audiophile. Totalphile? Looks like a fancy term for bass heads. wink.gif

The closest thing to great highs, great mids and bass head lows is the jh16.
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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

I prefer audiophile. Totalphile? Looks like a fancy term for bass heads. wink.gif

The closest thing to great highs, great mids and bass head lows is the jh16.


LMAO @ $1000+ those jh16s they better have it ALL. But they ain't no headphone though.

 

But knowing you they are probably still bass lite. tongue.gif Cuz you just don't understand how much great quality and quantity bass adds to the overall listening pleasure. It just adds so much more realism/ weight/ naturalness/ depth/ and overall eargasmic-ness. L3000.gif

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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

I prefer audiophile. Totalphile? Looks like a fancy term for bass heads. wink.gif

The closest thing to great highs, great mids and bass head lows is the jh16.

I'm sorry as it's impossible to read tone when it comes to posts,

but I do like the phrase - however it's not like I'm going to walk around identifying myself as a totalphile now.  SMILE

 

I just don't classify myself at all.  I've had fellow audio reviewers tell me things like "you're an audiophile whether you like 

it or not, and even if you didn't wanna be, you learned from Harry Pearson for Christs' Sake".

 

But I often tell people I'm a confessed music addict!

 

And it's true about proper and excitable bass laying the foundation for the rest of the audio spectrum.  Layering builds upon it.

Get definition in the bass, the mids, and highs, get air and extension, and BANG: Audible stimulation (for me anyway)

 

Lose definition in the bass, and it all crumbles.

 

and on the Pioneers (to reel it back for a minute) I heard a surprisingly balanced sounds! Why I bought em right there on the spot.

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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post

I'm sorry as it's impossible to read tone when it comes to posts,

but I do like the phrase - however it's not like I'm going to walk around identifying myself as a totalphile now.  SMILE

 

I just don't classify myself at all.  I've had fellow audio reviewers tell me things like "you're an audiophile whether you like 

it or not, and even if you didn't wanna be, you learned from Harry Pearson for Christs' Sake".

 

But I often tell people I'm a confessed music addict!

 

And it's true about proper and excitable bass laying the foundation for the rest of the audio spectrum.  Layering builds upon it.

Get definition in the bass, the mids, and highs, get air and extension, and BANG: Audible stimulation (for me anyway)

 

Lose definition in the bass, and it all crumbles.

 

and on the Pioneers (to reel it back for a minute) I heard a surprisingly balanced sounds! Why I bought em right there on the spot.


^ WOW this guy knows his stuff.  I am getting a good ol' fashioned schooling. THXZ!!!

 

Let me show you my sweet set up so you can be as jelly as me drooling over what you posted. 

... SWAG. cool.gif Dats all you need meng. No amps/ no dacs/ no EQ/ no fancy cables trying to make it out of this one alive. tongue.gif


Edited by sfwalcer - 7/5/13 at 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


LMAO @ $1000+ those jh16s they better have it ALL. But they ain't no headphone though.

But knowing you they are probably still bass lite. tongue.gif Cuz you just don't understand how much great quality and quantity bass adds to the overall listening pleasure. It just adds so much more realism/ weight/ naturalness/ depth/ and overall eargasmic-ness. L3000.gif

Jh16 bass lite? Hahaha its just not bloated exaggerated bass that "Totalphiles" like. wink.gif

Bass heavy phones aren't balanced. It's bass heavy. Why they are called bass heavy. I think people confuse good solid bass with bass heavy. Also, the majority of music doesn't require bass heavy quantity. Ever listen to the Beatles, or orchestra, or acoustic live with bass heavy phones? It sounds like crap, because bass is inserted where it doesn't belong. Bass heavy phones doesn't sound natural to me, it sounds bass heavy ie too much bass.

Ever read "the battle of the flagships"? There is a reason why jh13 is the highest rated iem.
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