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Then look towards X2

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Then look towards X2

 I would but I think it has too much treble, it's pretty spikey up top. The X1 with the X2 bass would have been perfect. 

post #348 of 353

You might not believe in burn-in or cable affecting audio but maybe You should just try those things before judging so fast with little playtime?

Whats Your hurry? They say that X1/X2 need  ~150-200h playtime (with amping preferred) to properly settle down. X2 treble should smoothen out somewhat (read baycode review after "burn-in" process) and also clamping pressure/position affects it. X1 bass & kick gets tighter and overall sound littlebit clearer. I think it all has something to do with those "gel filled" driver membranes (don`t know exact term) "adjusting" to vibration after some playtime. But who knows... just assumption. For the record, I did my "burn-in" process without listening to it meanwhile and they changed noticeably for better (my girlfriend also thinks so).

post #349 of 353

How did the vmoda cable compare to the X1 cable ?

post #350 of 353
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

You might not believe in burn-in or cable affecting audio but maybe You should just try those things before judging so fast with little playtime?

Whats Your hurry? They say that X1/X2 need  ~150-200h playtime (with amping preferred) to properly settle down. X2 treble should smoothen out somewhat (read baycode review after "burn-in" process) and also clamping pressure/position affects it. X1 bass & kick gets tighter and overall sound littlebit clearer. I think it all has something to do with those "gel filled" driver membranes (don`t know exact term) "adjusting" to vibration after some playtime. But who knows... just assumption. For the record, I did my "burn-in" process without listening to it meanwhile and they changed noticeably for better (my girlfriend also thinks so).

I dunno, many people have done objective tests for burn in and they found only very slight changes. Subjectively I have been told to do the same with the last 4-5 headphones I tried, and they didn't change. Either way, the treble relative to the midrange of the X2 is quite high, and deviates pretty far from the hardon curve after 3khz. This means it will be perceived as hot treble. There is no way burn in will drop treble by 5db. 

 

I think in the end we all hear differently. The X1 and X2 are nice headphones, but they are not for everyone. No headphone is for everyone...

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I think in the end we all hear differently. The X1 and X2 are nice headphones, but they are not for everyone. No headphone is for everyone...

Hit the nail. Agreed. I love X1 with my setup sooo much that I tend to forget this :tongue: Ppl forget about what they actually hear and try to follow those curves & graphs which is also wrong imho. One can do that but what`s the point when human ears/brain make it result different to each person?

 

Anyway, just finished watching Porcupine Tree live HD-DVD and imho it sounds so spot-on, especially bass is just awesome and so lifelike to me (I`m a former bass player btw) that less bass would be maybe "recessed" for my taste. And repeating myself - I hate bassy cans and I`m definitely not basshead.


Edited by CoiL - 11/5/14 at 2:46pm
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Really liking what I am hearing!....

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....I'm just going to return them.

 

:confused:  Haha, well alright then.

 

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 I would but I think it has too much treble, it's pretty spikey up top. The X1 with the X2 bass would have been perfect. 

 

FWIR, the X2 is supposed to be smoother sounding up top than the X1, so it might be worth trying.

post #353 of 353

X1 spikey up top? Then it must be too less "burn-in" time and not good amp/dac match. I definitely do not find X1 treble spikey in any way with my desktop setup. DX50 is also very good and no touble with treble.

But maybe he is uber-sensitive to treble, who knows.


Edited by CoiL - 11/8/14 at 12:30am
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