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post #16 of 327
Very good review!! Share your opinion 100%
post #17 of 327

Fantastically written review. And great pics to go with it. I got my X1 last week (after promising I would not go after this one) and I am hearing it pretty much the same way. I find reproduction of vocals to be it's strong suit.

post #18 of 327
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I'll tell you why they won't be a simple FOTM. There is simply no other headphone like the X1. Try to find bassy, open, large soundstage, linear (after the bass), super comfy, easy to drive, beautiful, and relatively affordable all in one package. Hell, just some of those things in one package. There is NOTHING like the X1. It ticks so many boxes, and fills a very large niche (you can only have so many neutral open cans, but not much competition for a bassy one).

These are not perfect, but the package as a whole is incredibly appealing.
Exactly why I think there is no point in mid-fi discussions anymore. The Fidelio X1 is the DEFINITIVE mid-fi headphone. Nothing else compares.
post #19 of 327
I wouldn't call it definitive. It's not perfect, and the sound signature isn't for everyone.
post #20 of 327
You can't expect anything even remotely close to perfection in mid-fi. Of the candidates, the X1 makes the fewest compromises.

Unless you actually find the sound signature completely disagreeable or need a closed headphone, it seems like the pretty obvious champion to me.

I believe the X1 is sufficiently proficient that it bends the usual rules of subjectivity and preference.
Edited by 3X0 - 6/30/13 at 8:49am
post #21 of 327
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You can't expect anything even remotely close to perfection in mid-fi. Of the candidates, the X1 makes the fewest compromises.

Unless you actually find the sound signature completely disagreeable or need a closed headphone, it seems like the pretty obvious champion to me.

I believe the X1 is sufficiently proficient that it bends the usual rules of subjectivity and preference.


Interesting, I take that you have tried every possible "mid-fi" phone out there with sufficient time to back that opinion? 

post #22 of 327
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You can't expect anything even remotely close to perfection in mid-fi. Of the candidates, the X1 makes the fewest compromises.

Unless you actually find the sound signature completely disagreeable or need a closed headphone, it seems like the pretty obvious champion to me.

I believe the X1 is sufficiently proficient that it bends the usual rules of subjectivity and preference.

That is not true, preference is everything! If I would accidentaly own a grado gs1000 for example i'd not be into hifi now. They are detailed and 'good' but they just plain suck.

The x1 is good, sure. But you forget the most important thing (atleast for me) and that is enjoyability of the headphone. These are absolutely amazing with electronic music but i'm looking for something else for pink floyd and a grado for rock.

 

If I could get a h650 for a good price it would be a great addition because it does pink floyd much better (IMO). And they even have more details then the x1 when I compared them (objective2+moon600d, stock cable)

post #23 of 327
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Interesting, I take that you have tried every possible "mid-fi" phone out there with sufficient time to back that opinion? 
Is that a rhetorical question?

Yes.
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That is not true, preference is everything!
There is remarkably little room for opinion and preference in the case of the X1.
post #24 of 327

Great Review and spot on. I personally hope for a X2/Z1 with less itchy and replaceable pads, ~3-6dB less bass while retaining bass punch, clearer mids and more refined treble. That would be a FOTY.

post #25 of 327
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Exactly why I think there is no point in mid-fi discussions anymore. The Fidelio X1 is the DEFINITIVE mid-fi headphone. Nothing else compares.

omg seriuosly? and I want to sell it one day to salvage some of the dough I spent on tubes *crying*

post #26 of 327

they sound good with edm because the bass is heavy, there is no need to mystify that though. 

 

can anyone explain why they have such bass as open cans though?

 

 

 

by the way, i read some review that says x1 is very sensitive to cable  upgrade, so MLE, I doubt that people should be done satisfied to go with your suggestion that anything beyond 10-20 bucks is cable fi bs.

 

 

anyone rocking X1 on some expensive cables care to share?


Edited by Overwerk - 6/30/13 at 11:50am
post #27 of 327
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Exactly why I think there is no point in mid-fi discussions anymore. The Fidelio X1 is the DEFINITIVE mid-fi headphone. Nothing else compares.

 

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You can't expect anything even remotely close to perfection in mid-fi.

 

Mid-fi? If these are mid-fi, then I hate hi-fi.

post #28 of 327
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Mid-fi? If these are mid-fi, then I hate hi-fi.

what's that supposed to mean.0.0

post #29 of 327
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Exactly why I think there is no point in mid-fi discussions anymore. The Fidelio X1 is the DEFINITIVE mid-fi headphone. Nothing else compares.

What praise! I think I should return my Sony MA900's as well as my AKG 712 Pro. I'm just wasting my time with these X1 wannabe's! biggrin.gif

post #30 of 327
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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

they sound good with edm because the bass is heavy, there is no need to mystify that though. 

 

can anyone explain why they have such bass as open cans though?

 

 

 

by the way, i read some review that says x1 is very sensitive to cable  upgrade, so MLE, I doubt that people should be done satisfied to go with your suggestion that anything beyond 10-20 bucks is cable fi bs.

 

 

anyone rocking X1 on some expensive cables care to share?

I'm going to make a pure silver 8 wire braid cable when my teflon sleeving comes in. Maybe even direct solder to objective 2 just for fun. :)

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