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post #106 of 353
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

Thanks! Only problem with the x1 though is that the pads aren't replaceable.

 

Is the x1 more detailed, or does the x1 just have more highs because sometimes a brighter sound can give the illusion of more detail.

 

I agree about the ear pads.  Although, I am sure someone will come up with a solution.  

 

As for the X1's detail, it's very impressive.  I am still amazed with the amount of detail the X1's retrieve without a hint of harshness or sibilance.  The treble is smooth, but I don't detect any roll-off.  It just seems like the perfect balance to me.  You get all of the detail you want, and none of the negative aspects like treble peaks or sibilance.

 

Also, I forgot to include this in my review but I did replace the stock X1 cable with a MediaBridge cable.  I don't know if that makes a difference but I already had the cable when I bought the X1's so I thought, "why not"?

post #107 of 353

so for all of those with both mediabridge and the inaustik STAR cable, which one sounds better? 

I am leaning towards the inaustik, it's marketed audiophile cable although intro, many mentioned them different from the premium one only by sleeving. Although the description did say the premium has extra shielding. 

 

but I thought shielding is just for noise, yet what qualify as noise anyways? I don't feel any noise.

post #108 of 353
The difference is gonna be extremely minute. In my experience, the Inakustik is brighter, tighter, and slightly more controlled in the bass. Again, this is a gross exaggeration of the differences. Don't worry too much
post #109 of 353

so the pleather pads (although soft and nice) on my htx7 finally cracked after 3 years of service. I wasn't even using it, I just saw that they cracked. Maybe last time using it I didn't pay attention, maybe it just cracked while it's sitting around a few days ago, who knows.

 

are pleather pads supposed to last longer, or these...x1 style pads?

post #110 of 353
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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

so for all of those with both mediabridge and the inaustik STAR cable, which one sounds better? 

 

I've directly A-B compared (with FiiO HS2) and I don't hear a difference (using the monoprice cable, which should be the same as media bridge).

 

I'd get whichever you prefer cosmetically

post #111 of 353

How would these do for rap/hiphop and dubstep?

post #112 of 353
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post

How would these do for rap/hiphop and dubstep?

 

They're good for that. 

post #113 of 353
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

I've directly A-B compared (with FiiO HS2) and I don't hear a difference (using the monoprice cable, which should be the same as media bridge).

 

I'd get whichever you prefer cosmetically

you have more than one x1?|

post #114 of 353
Thread Starter 

No. 

 

I have a FiiO HS2 and I plug both cables into it then another short interconnect (which measures ~0 ohm resistance) to run into the X1s jack.  I then use the HS2 to switch between the two cables.

post #115 of 353
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

No. 

 

I have a FiiO HS2 and I plug both cables into it then another short interconnect (which measures ~0 ohm resistance) to run into the X1s jack.  I then use the HS2 to switch between the two cables.

too much bias comparing to just direct compare the two seperately I assume? Just in case the interconnects veiled off the difference

post #116 of 353
Thread Starter 

It takes some time to switch between the cables directly, plus I don't want to rape my X1's jack switching over and over.  Either way, if there is a difference between the two ~$5 cables, it's so small that I could care less.

post #117 of 353
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

You can't expect anything even remotely close to perfection in mid-fi. Of the candidates, the X1 makes the fewest compromises.

Unless you actually find the sound signature completely disagreeable or need a closed headphone, it seems like the pretty obvious champion to me.

I believe the X1 is sufficiently proficient that it bends the usual rules of subjectivity and preference.

I agree with the reviews. Its a really ambitious head phones, i imagine how the senior program engineers / architects must have presented on the white board a agressive project goal: open back, big sound stange, good instrument articulation, spacious sound stage, big bass without bleeding into a quite present and not muffled mid, more so impressive and really unique in itself is its fastness and sound stage even at a 100 Db SPL @ 100 mW @ 32 Ohms considering there is no damping factor to it or scalability aspect with a good amp unlike HD 600 or 650.

Yes one would argue with a good amp to overcome those 300 Ohms, X1 dont come close to 600/650's sound stage, depth, instrument arcticulation, bass extension and tightness. but without a decent  portable, both 600/650 doesnt sound half as breathing and open as X1.

All and All,  I feel its an honest attempt to pull it off so nicely. Yes its jack of all trades, but some jack it is!! its not headphones that impresses you very much on bass accuracy extension, or sound stage, or instrument articulation, or neutrality unlike LCD2, HD800 or HE-500. but it sure makes you go "hmmmm,, this is interesting!!" in few minutes of listen. cause its genre of its own. its not a stone cold follower of anyone league yet it tries to pull off everyone little bit for a mid-fi headphones! Its like i can relate to a personal experience of pulling of a project with limited expirience engineers in my team trying to develop a software with features and performance that rivals one made by the likes of geniuses like google or Apple and yet able to respectfully earn a position.

Honestly i feel if they were able to pull of this weird tunning to their drivers, than a neutral flat signature  would have not been tough either.

Philips have indeed done a good job, honest, humbly and sincerely pulling this off, entering a league where its even getting discussed in this forum when it used to be a walmart side shelf 20$ audience targetted company!

Remember to keep this in perspective and salute them!


Edited by maiden7705 - 7/29/13 at 7:59am
post #118 of 353

Well after reading this thread for weeks, I finally bit.  Should have em tomorrow to compare with my M100s and my Momentums.  Should be a good fight.

post #119 of 353
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Originally Posted by maiden7705 View Post

I agree with the reviews. Its a really ambitious head phones, i imagine how the senior program engineers / architects must have presented on the white board a agressive project goal: open back, big sound stange, good instrument articulation, spacious sound stage, big bass without bleeding into a quite present and not muffled mid, more so impressive and really unique in itself is its fastness and sound stage even at a 100 Db SPL @ 100 mW @ 32 Ohms considering there is no damping factor to it or scalability aspect with a good amp unlike HD 600 or 650.

Yes one would argue with a good amp to overcome those 300 Ohms, X1 dont come close to 600/650's sound stage, depth, instrument arcticulation, bass extension and tightness. but without a decent  portable, both 600/650 doesnt sound half as breathing and open as X1.

All and All,  I feel its an honest attempt to pull it off so nicely. Yes its jack of all trades, but some jack it is!! its not headphones that impresses you very much on bass accuracy extension, or sound stage, or instrument articulation, or neutrality unlike LCD2, HD800 or HE-500. but it sure makes you go "hmmmm,, this is interesting!!" in few minutes of listen. cause its genre of its own. its not a stone cold follower of anyone league yet it tries to pull off everyone little bit for a mid-fi headphones! Its like i can relate to a personal experience of pulling of a project with limited expirience engineers in my team trying to develop a software with features and performance that rivals one made by the likes of geniuses like google or Apple and yet able to respectfully earn a position.

Honestly i feel if they were able to pull of this weird tunning to their drivers, than a neutral flat signature  would have not been tough either.

Philips have indeed done a good job, honest, humbly and sincerely pulling this off, entering a league where its even getting discussed in this forum when it used to be a walmart side shelf 20$ audience targetted company!

Remember to keep this in perspective and salute them!

I honestly never really think I was impressed by x1 for a second during myy whole time using it. I really grow tired of the fanboys and the haters who knows IN FACT nothing about the truth behind these headphones--which I don;t know myself either. All those people that try to pretend they do makes me sick

post #120 of 353
I think it's a great headphone, made better by it's very favorable sound signature. But it isn't perfect in any sense of the word, nor do I think it reaches the kind of technical prowess of something like the classic mid-fi trio of the HD6xx, K70x, DT880.

Having said that, it does so much right, that the negative aspects are far outweighed.

One thing I don't agree with at all was that the X1 doesn't match the HD650's soundstage. I dunno what planet that person's hearing is from, but the 650 doesn't come close to having a soundstage as good as the X1, and I paired the 650 with amps known for soundstage, like the Audio-GD SA-31 which almost pumps out a ridiculous amount of juice for the 650, something like 1.4watts@300ohm. Amps try to have that kind of power for low impedances, yet the SA-31 does that for high impedance, lol.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/31/13 at 2:46am
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