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post #421 of 1362
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Originally Posted by TominJapan View Post

Thanks CosmoMemory, if there is no :)improvement I better stick to single ended then. Receiving my HD540 II shortly, could you recommend/ direct me to another thread regarding a good amp in the $500-$1k range? considering the similarities between HD540 and HD800 HP could one state that any amp cherished for HD800 would be equally good for a HD540 II? Would make the selction easier smily_headphones1.gif I currently only have an integrated TEAC AI-501 that might lack sufficient juice to power the HD540ii.
Thanks:)

I would strongly recommend Lake People's G109S or G100, if you can find the latter Second-hand. In my view, it is simply the best affordable amp out there. I use the G100 and It drives all my headphones, from 32 to 600 0hm , with aplom and power to spare! And the guys at Innerfidellity seem to agree with me! smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by rocksteady65 - 6/3/14 at 1:55am
post #422 of 1362
Thanks, just received my HD540 II mint condition... And... Even with my TEAC AI-501 ( need to turn the volume knob to 3 pm to heaŕ loud enough though)

WOW! Incredible, amazing awesome !

my Denon D2k and HD650 do not come even close, I am speechless....!

Thanks for the amp recommendations , any opinion on SS amp vs tube amps, I could buy Little Dot tube amps at a discounted price for instance... For the Lake People I could buy the V200 here other models are not available, or of course the TEAC HA-501....
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And sorry if I disturbed the thread I am Really really impressed by my new toy smily_headphones1.gif
post #423 of 1362
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Originally Posted by TominJapan View Post

Thanks, just received my HD540 II mint condition... And... Even with my TEAC AI-501 ( need to turn the volume knob to 3 pm to heaŕ loud enough though)

WOW! Incredible, amazing awesome !

my Denon D2k and HD650 do not come even close, I am speechless....!

Thanks for the amp recommendations , any opinion on SS amp vs tube amps, I could buy Little Dot tube amps at a discounted price for instance... For the Lake People I could buy the V200 here other models are not available, or of course the TEAC HA-501....
smily_headphones1.gif
And sorry if I disturbed the thread I am Really really impressed by my new toy smily_headphones1.gif

Welcome to the club! I have used the HD540 since 1987 and it's no surprise to me that you have found it to be superior to the HD650. In fact, I never understood the cult around the HD650. I have listened to it and I have found it deeply mediocre. Truly massively overrated!

Best.
post #424 of 1362

Yes, they had the right idea with the HD540. It makes much of the current headphone market seem like a joke. As you say; dangerously mediocre indeed. The sonic qualities of the HD540 revolve around the whole point of high fidelity headphone listening; to enjoy a performance that has a startling resemblance to the original recording. I can give it no higher recommendation. I'm glad you are enjoying the experience.

post #425 of 1362

About 4 pages back, I asked if anyone had heard the HD520 and if they were able to offer any insight or comparison to it's highly praised siblings.

Since nobody has chimed in, I feel that briefly mentioning it here has more value than creating a new thread.

 

I'm still waiting for new earpads from the fleabay fellow in HK, and so I have only tried it out on a variety of large spare earpads I have lying around - for now I've settled with new DT990 foams and Fostex RP pads, just loosely held on in place with clamping force. (If I felt these did not give me a sufficiently good sound I wouldn't bother writing here)

 

The first thing that hits me, and I mean slugs me across the face - is the soundstage and air.

It's huge. And feels very... round/spherical(?).. and VERY accurate. I think it's bigger than my vintage DT990... and maybe, dare I say, similar in spacial accuracy as an HE-500. 

(with new DT990 pads the air and soundstage was even bigger: it was about as big as it gets with any large beyer/senn - but the FR was all messed up, weirdly scooped mids and too much treble)

 

Mids and treble are just gorgeous. So cohesive. So smooth. No fatigue. Separation is also fabulous. There does seem to be some 'subjective' colouration though - there is an emphasis around 5000Hz, which I'm not entirely happy about, as my ears prefer a slight scoop around this frequency.  

Bass is tight and textured with a slightly lengthy decay in the high bass, also unfortunately lacks some volume and exhibits roll off. 

 

Overall, it has a touch less resolution than a vintage DT990 and misses the fun factor of juicy bass, but for very bass-heavy electronic music (where it was mastered in such a  way) and acoustic music/jazz/chamber that doesn't need sub-bass extension, these are uncommonly good considering how little you need to spend to get one. 

 

Just a final disclaimer/reminder - this is all in the context of value for money. These are keepers - even if they fall into personal disuse they will be an excellent first-audiophile-headphone for my kids. :D 

I'll come back again with more overly-enthusiastic impressions once the new pads arrive.

post #426 of 1362

Hi. 

 

I thought that it would be relevant to this thread to quote an excerpt from a Tyll Hertsens' recent review. I thing it -and the Link provided- really sum it nicely...:L3000:

 

Quote:
 

In 2009, Sennheiser introduced the HD 800 at $1500 and pushed the price and performance ceiling of dynamic headphones to a new high. In the years since, many new $1000+ headphone have entered the rarified air of ultra-high-end headphones, including: Beyerdynamic T1 ($1399); Audeze LCD2 ($1145), LCD-3 ($1945), and LCD-X ($1699); HiFiMAN HE6 ($1299); and a number of others.

The problem is, none of them are without flaw. To quote Head-Fi member Beagle from this thread:

 

I have not heard a +$1000 headphone that wasn't a waste of money in the long run. Or put another way, I haven't heard a +$1000 headphone that didn't have a sound that I could pretty much get for way under $1000.

Put another way, SanjiWatuski produced a document looking at measured performance of flagship cans and came to the conclusion the most don't cut the mustard, and headphones like the HiFiMAN HE-5 ($500) represent performance exceeding that of most $1000+ headphones. The title of his document: "The State of Flagships: An Under-engineered Mess"

 

Best,

 

Leonel


Edited by rocksteady65 - 6/3/14 at 3:05pm
post #427 of 1362

I've read those comments in Tyll's review. How dismaying they sound to someone who just bought the T1s and an amp for them...

In the meanwhile, I'd like to say:

Out of my Bottlehead S.E.X w/ C4S, fed by Audio-gd NFB10SE, the T1s sound better than HD540s Ref I and Ref II to my ears. The difference is not proportional to their price tag, that's for sure, but I'm pretty sure the T1s provide better imaging and truer presence of instruments. I think the 540s still win by a little in the reality of timbre reproduction. Of course, the amping was chosen for T1s, and may not be optimal for the Senns, but it's definitely better than any amps I had before. And I don't know how the Gold version would sound like. A side note to this impression is that, I remember preferring Beyer DT990s to HD650s when I had them both. 

 

Anyway I'm still a proud owner of HD540s...

post #428 of 1362
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 

Overall, it has a touch less resolution than a vintage DT990 and misses the fun factor of juicy bass, but for very bass-heavy electronic music (where it was mastered in such a  way) and acoustic music/jazz/chamber that doesn't need sub-bass extension, these are uncommonly good considering how little you need to spend to get one. 

 

I compared the HD 530 to the vintage DT 990 and likewise found the latter to have a bit more resolution. Can't remember the rest of the comparison, but I think the HD 530 struck me as a sort of studio version of the DT 990.

post #429 of 1362

Ok, I admit it... After reading SanjiWatuski's document, I have a new-found admiration for the HD800. It surely stands as an engineering Masterpiece. But by golly, at that price it damn better be! On the the other hand, I still think its appearance is too complex, dare I say ugly? Maybe it's just me...

 

Best.

 

Leonel

post #430 of 1362
I have a feeling that the HD540II would perform better with vinyl than the HD800 but I didn't have much time to compare them with different sources. Both are excellent and much of the dislike for the HD800 is associated with its high cost. During my listening, the two were very close. HD800 stereo image was larger (naturally so??) than HD540II but is because of more empty space inside the earcup IMO.
post #431 of 1362

I'm restoring a 540 Ref I and now a hair(spray) away from like-new condition. Thought that I had found the needed replacement shell but apparently so blinded by joy that I did not see the huge gaping cavity until it was before my eyes.. Maaan, what? Incredible.

If there's anyone who happens to have an unused mint spare PM me please.

 

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Edited by moriez - 6/4/14 at 1:12pm
post #432 of 1362
Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

I'm restoring a 540 Ref I and now a hair(spray) away from like-new condition. Thought that I had found the needed replacement shell but apparently so blinded by joy that I did not see the huge gaping cavity until it was before my eyes.. Maaan, what? Incredible.

If there's anyone who happens to have an unused mint spare PM me please.

 

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That's not the spare driver that I sold you, is it?

post #433 of 1362

No, it's not. Yours isn't bad but not good either unfortunately.

 

Edit: ow to hell with this restoring. The outer padding against the shell just fell apart on one side so I'm giving up.


Edited by moriez - 6/6/14 at 7:51am
post #434 of 1362
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Originally Posted by Bostonears View Post

 

That's not the spare driver that I sold you, is it?

 

Judging from my HD 530, the two drivers came matched with high precision, and I doubt this is because every driver they made sounded the exact same.

post #435 of 1362

Yesterday I was finally succesful at a relatively easy and reproducable way of preparing 560 earpads for the 540's. Quite fulfilling. It's just basics here, nothing fancy. For some it will be nothing new but for some it will come in handy in their own experiments. I cut up two older 560 pairs before I felt some confidence to work on brand new pads. This method allows no way around disassembling at least one driver from it's housing. Reason is that I wanted to cut away about 60% of the plastic edge that holds the stock ring. The driver part (in my hand in the first picture) proved to be exact the right measuring tool for it. I hope the pictures will help clarifying. We start at already disassembled..

 

 

Place the driver part onto the backside of the new pad and lightly press them until they snap together.

 

 

Once snapped together grab a pencil and start marking at the utmost right edge. Note the pin to the right of the pencil.

Now work your way around in a full 360.

 

 

If the above wasn't clear then the outcome should be. It'll look something like this.

Like I said, I wanted to have the marking around 60% of the total space to allow for as easy as possible ring 'out-in' and also to save enough material to secure the new ring.

 

 

We be doin' some cuttin'.

I said to my hesitant self: ''Well, there's only one way to find out''.

Tip: try to cut without ever lifting the knife. The result will be neater and there is only minimal sharp edges.

 

 

Done did job

 

 

My previous experiments had convinced me that I needed to cut some 'slots' of about an inch. To me, four of them was the logical number.

Once done it allows for easier placing of the 540 ring and easier/neater result when cutting through the stock ring which is shown in the next picture.

 

 

The least desirable act with a less than ideal tool. It wasn't sharp and didn't have long enough a nose but by gentle accurate work you'll cut through or (if lucky) break the stock ring.

Be extra careful here as it's easy to go overboard on force and impatience which could mess up the pad a bit. Breathe in breathe out.

 

 

Stock ring out? Good job.

Here I recommend setting the 'slots' upright and also the area left and right of it. This allows easier 540 ring placement.

 

 

Don't think that after the above work it will go in by itself. No. It will take a little more left and right, in and out, some bending, some squeezing and probably cursing before you're there.

Once you're there, do me a favour and bend back the remaining 40% plastic edge. You now have brand new earpads ready for your tremendous 540's.


Edited by moriez - 6/7/14 at 9:48am
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