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post #1 of 57
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Hello there, this is a topic i know you all will say "go read the recommended headphones guide" "look at Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide" but i have looked at all i could find so far :-)

the problem with this case is that i want a nice bass pair of headphones but i also want extreme clarity for competitive gaming :S meaning i am split atm. between the AKG Q701 (for extreme clarity) and the Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO, 80 ohms (for good bass) so i need help to find a balance

 

my priorities are around 65% gaming to 35% bass music / movies

 

Budget - up to 270$ (keep in mind i live in Denmark and prices are around 30-50% higher here :S)

Source - motherboard sound card. i know it's not as good as a sound card or external amp but this one seems quite good. board: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/#overview

Requirements for Isolation - None really, would be nice with a little bit but i hear open headphones are best for gaming? but since they are open there is no isolation :D = basicly no requirements sadly the open headphones do actuly let out to much sound for me to be able to play with freinds :D and especial at LAN's!

Preferred Type of Headphone - Full size! need to be an over the ear type i hate when they press against my ears :S

Preferred tonal balance - well i am a basshead but again i looking for some headphones that can also be good for competitive gaming

Past headphones - Steelseries Siberia V2 (which i have broken 3 of now so now it's time for some good quality pair of headphones)

Preferred Music - Dubstep, hardstyle, some pop, just overall bass music :D

Location - Expensive little Denmark...

 

just FYI i don't know a thing about the different drives, if i had to pick by my self i would just take the biggest drives i could get with the biggest Frequency range :D just to let you know how little i know about this :D

if i did not supply you with enough information to help me just ask :-)

hope you can help me out, and thanks a lot in advance!


Edited by Fiorini - 6/29/13 at 6:08am
post #2 of 57

I recommend the Q701 over the Beyer due to the latter drowning out details in heavy explosions,  they are great for Singleplayer though. You could EQ the AKG a bit to your liking. How are the prices for the K712PRO and K702-65th? They do the bass better but changes are more due to their pads.

 

I am not very sure about your soundcard. Asus only gives vague info and it seems it's Realtek with a fancier layout than regular onboard audio. I recommend getting a better soundcard someday that powers the AKGs adequately and gives you some good HRTF solution like Dolby Headphone, SBX or CMSS-3D.

post #3 of 57
Thread Starter 

i was kinda looking for something in the middle but i must say i am leaning alot for the Q701 :-), i looked on the 2 headphones you recommended, and sadly both are them are only a bit under double the price of the Q701 in Denmark.

 

yeah i know about the sound card. but i am waiting for my motherboard to arrive to i can hear how it is, and after that decide if i have to go out that instant to get a sound card or if i can wait a bit for when i well for it :-)

 

the reason i leaning towards the Q701 is because in the mad lust guide it's the top score / the K701 is but the Q701 is getting recommended over the K

post #4 of 57

The Q701 is very fine then. Besides checking the quality/tonality also check if your soundcard has a HRTF option. It's very useful. 

post #5 of 57
Thread Starter 

i am not sure i know what HRTF is? :-) but what i hear the Q701 is lacking quite a bit of bass? and do want some. or maybe i should just get a sub by it self? :D no but seriously is there a better option in the same price range with maybe a bit more bass? or what? :D

post #6 of 57

Well, there's the really nice Fidelio X1 which you could get from Amazon.it for a low price but that bass while immersive can surely be overwhelming. You could risk getting one and resell it if you don't like it. That's up to you. Q701 is safe and you can EQ it a bit. 

 

So you are gaming in STEREO? Let me explain it very simple. These technologies use various filters and rendering methods to create a binaural signal from multichannel streams (in the case of cmss-3d it takes every single voice and creates the best possible binaural signal, but that tech is unfortunately rather dead frown.gif because today's games use middleware mostly that render everything themselves and only ouput the aforementiond streams - in that case these technologies can "only" layer out a virtual 5.1/7.1 room) so that you can pinpoint sounds around you (and with some methods/APIs below and above you) make you feel being in the scenery/location.

 

It's very helpful in Multiplayer. With stereo you have room information as well but the panning is neither immersive nor accurate. Some people still prefer Stereo as some HRTF solutions change the sound quality too much. Read the few short links.

 

 

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/home-theater/dolby-headphone.html

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Blaster_X-Fi#CMSS-3D

 

http://www.creative.com/oem/technology/sbxprostudio.asp

 

oh and read this  the most

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/593050/the-nameless-guide-to-pc-gaming-audio-with-binaural-headphone-surround-sound

 

you won't regret it.


Edited by Fegefeuer - 6/28/13 at 4:32am
post #7 of 57
Thread Starter 

Thanks again :-)

 

i guess it will be the Q701 then :-) hope their good :D

 

well then it was what i expected :-) i just did not know that word for it.

gonna read the guide so thanks for that :-)

 

yeah thanks for your help

guess i will read a bit more up on the headphones before i buy them but it looks good so far

post #8 of 57

Well, I have to say it :D

 

Check out the MLE thread as well. MLE and chicolom are both experts on the Q701. Read their reviews and guides thoroughly. 

post #9 of 57
Thread Starter 

i have read almost all the reviews in my pricerange :D and that is why i said in the 1 post that i already knew of the guide :D

post #10 of 57
The Q701s are not a good choice for those into heavy bass, and many people who like your music genres would be disappointed. Sub bass is almost non-existent, and the midbass is perhaps a little more than neutral at best. I would recommend looking into the AKG K550. Better sub bass extension, and they respond well to EQ if you want a bit extra bass: http://www.head-fi.org/t/613707/the-akg-k550-appreciation-discussion-thread
post #11 of 57

What about the AKG K601s. I heard(?)  that they have more bass then the 7XX series.

post #12 of 57
Thread Starter 

And how are they in games? :-)

post #13 of 57
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And how are they in games? :-)

I have no idea on how well the AKG K601 are with (FPS) gaming, but i would assume there are at least somewhat like the 7XX series.

The AKG K601's are 120-Ohm, so they might need some amping to sound their best.

AKG just come out with a K601 replacement (upgrade?), called the K612 Pro, Thomann sells them for 160 Euro

What make and model motherboard are your getting?

 

Might try asking on this thread about the K601s

http://www.head-fi.org/t/216596/akg-k601-owners-unite

 

Anyway for the price of the AKG K612 Pro, you have enough left over to buy a headphone amplifier or add-on sound card.

post #14 of 57
Thread Starter 
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Source - motherboard sound card. i know it's not as good as a sound card or external amp but this one seems quite good. board: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/#overview

first post :-) but here it is again :-)

 

but you say AKG K612 Pro got more bass? but i still want some competetive gaming sound in games :-)

post #15 of 57
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Originally Posted by Fiorini View Post

first post :-) but here it is again :-)

 

but you say AKG K612 Pro got more bass? but i still want some competetive gaming sound in games :-)

I believe the AKG K601 come out first,

the 7XX appear to be designed to add more mid range and treble, at the expense of having less bass, compared to the 6XX series.

I'm also guessing the 7XX were designed to be less depended on a headphone amp. as the 7XX are only 62-Ohm.

Ask in the AKG K601 thread, see what K601 owners have to say.

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