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post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hi,

This message probably doesn't belong on the forum, but I couldn't find a solution anywhere else. Here is what is happening:

When watching television normally everything is fine. However, when I switch my dvd/vcr player into vcr mode, one of the channels (fox) is severly distorted. That is, it is picking up the radio station from a local university. Note: My VCR setting is on "Stereo", and my (older) TV does not have a stereo/SAP menu setting, so I am assuming it is set on "Stereo" as well.

Now, if I change the vcr menu setting to use "SAP" the interference is actually reduced a lot, but not enough to not be annoying.

This problem wouldn't affect me if I didn't want to frequently record programs on (fox), which I do.

Any suggestions?
-Thanks
post #2 of 6

Killing Interference...

Hi-

I am a Ham Radio operator, and have to deal with these issues in my house...

Obviously you are using cable to get FOX channel...

Assume that you do not get the signal through the cable...

Here is a step by step, stop at each step and test for the problem

First, change cable lengths that you use to interconnect the TV,DVD, and VCR units.(make sure they are all securely attached)

Re -orient the units if you can: ie if they face west, face them south...if this is a real pain, go to next step...

Look at the male plugs of each unit...are they polarized? If one of your gear is old enough to have equal sized blades on the male plugs, turn it over to plug it in the other way. This is not very common anymore...

Next, ground the units well, either to each other, or each one to a ground (there are usually many available to you, each of a different quality): In order of "groundedness" from worst, to best Find metal screw on each unit that screws into metal of the chassis or case: tie these together with some hookup wire; Get or borrow an outlet tester, and test the outlet(s) that you are using..specifically you want to find that there IS a ground connection...many contractors 'forget" to hook them all up; If you are comfortable working in your power box, check that all ground and neutral connections are clean, and tight...(might as well tighten the hots too, while you are in there...THIS IS A DANGEROUS STEP - ONLY DO IT IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO); Next, Go outside of the house, where the power enters, and look to find the Ground rod, driven into the ground at or near the power entry...look to see that is has a good connection, is clean and tight.

If the problem persists, then next, you need to go to an electronics store, and purchase "ferrite chokes"- these are specially constructed pieces of sintered ferrite (iron powder)that are made to pass your power cables through. You open them up, carefully, and then wind as many turns through the center and around the outside as possible and still close the core back up. Be careful, and don't force it shut, as the ferrite is really like cheap glass - it will shatter and lose its effectiveness. Do this on all power cords.

Somewhere on this path of steps, the problem should stop.
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hi KYTGuy,

I havn't fully read your post yet but will do so after I send out this message.

Your post struck me as funny because my next door neighbor has a tower that is probably between 100 - 130 feet high in his back yard. Also, I was told that he is a Ham Operator.

1. Could this potentially cause some problems (causing local radio stations to interfer w/ certain channels?

2. Is this what you meant by saying that you "have to deal with these issues" in your house?

3. Also, the reception isn't that great in many of the channels. Could the tower be causing problems here as well?

I'd have to guestimate that the tower is approximately 125-150 feet from the TVs that are affected.

Your post was greatly appreciated,
Thanks
post #4 of 6

Reply...

You had said that it was Broadcast radio interference, right...then it is not your neighbor...

I have to make sure that when I am messing on my VHF/UHF radios, that it does not bleed over...The wife wants to be able to watch TV while I am on...

You might go over and introduce yourself...Hams are nice people, and will help you (maybe) with any of the items that you are not feeling too safe with...Just tell him/her that you are
having some issues, and ask him/her for help.

The tower should not cause you any problems...usually they are in use late at night, or early in the morning, and the chances that it has a frequency that is bothering you is pretty small...

If, However, you heaqr interference that is like one half of a conversation, or if the picture distorts in a semi-rythmic fashion, then it may be the nearby tower/installation.

He/She should be friendly and helpful, if it is his/her signal that is giving you trouble...wait till it is doing it, and WRITE DOWN the time that it is affecting you, along with the station you are listening to, and take that with you when you go to talk with him. He will have a log of when he was transmitting - see if the times match.

Regards

Big Ugly Guy
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 

debugging

Hi,

"First, change cable lengths that you use to interconnect the TV,DVD, and VCR units.(make sure they are all securely attached)"

Same thing, fox still picks up a local radio broadcast

"Re -orient the units if you can: ie if they face west, face them south...if this is a real pain, go to next step..."

Didn't help...

"Look at the male plugs of each unit...are they polarized? If one of your gear is old enough to have equal sized blades on the male plugs, turn it over to plug it in the other way. This is not very common anymore..."

My TV is quite old and the outlet plug did, in fact, have equal sized blades. I reversed the plug but there was no change.

"
Next, ground the units well, either to each other, or each one to a ground (there are usually many available to you, each of a different quality): In order of "groundedness" from worst, to best Find metal screw on each unit that screws into metal of the chassis or case: tie these together with some hookup wire; Get or borrow an outlet tester, and test the outlet(s) that you are using..specifically you want to find that there IS a ground connection...many contractors 'forget" to hook them all up; If you are comfortable working in your power box, check that all ground and neutral connections are clean, and tight...(might as well tighten the hots too, while you are in there...THIS IS A DANGEROUS STEP - ONLY DO IT IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO); Next, Go outside of the house, where the power enters, and look to find the Ground rod, driven into the ground at or near the power entry...look to see that is has a good connection, is clean and tight."

Woah, you over-estimate me . My hands-on electrical knowledge is limited to introductory courses in digital logic and analog circuits (about 3.5 years ago), with much more theory than actual practice.

Some more questions if you don't mind:
What do you mean by "ground the units well?" Isn't everything in the vcr already grounded to the case which, in turn, is grounded to the outlet and outside ground rod (again, I am not very familiar in this area).

How much $$ is an outlet tester? Is it the same thing as a voltage meter, or is it something special to check if there is a ground?

When looking at the ground, what exactly will I be looking for? What should have a good connection? Also, keeping in mind that I am not an electrical engineer, we can touch the ground rod because the ground has much less resistence than people? What about anything that is connected to the rod?


"If the problem persists, then next, you need to go to an electronics store, and purchase "ferrite chokes"- these are specially constructed pieces of sintered ferrite (iron powder)that are made to pass your power cables through. You open them up, carefully, and then wind as many turns through the center and around the outside as possible and still close the core back up. Be careful, and don't force it shut, as the ferrite is really like cheap glass - it will shatter and lose its effectiveness. Do this on all power cords."

Is this the end all to all problems? That is, if I skip straight to this step, then should it solve all problems? I've never heard of the product and am not exactly sure that I understand how they are to be used. They are wound around all power cords?

Also, your steps seem to suggest that the problem is most likely a power problem. Is this correct? I that the problem would be with the cable wire and that some type of filtering hardware would be the solution.

Thanks again...
post #6 of 6

Sent you several PMs...

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