Originally Posted by jant71
So, you pick the one earphone they were doing god knows what with :) The VSD7 tuning stuff was not even very believable. That is a one off model and certainly an exception. There are always going to be exceptions but I think the majority will disagree that better models within brands that have better F.R. listed fulfill that claim to some measure. Nonsense to feel they should deliver what they put on the box?
When I ordered the VSD1 from LMUE the early specs were listed at 30,000 which was not true. But what was on the actual product was different which is why I asked for it from the box of the VSD3. If they list these as 31,500 and they don't live up to that versus other(experimental tuning models excluded) we should tell people what to expect and not expect from the product(Head-fi is made for this kind of info). What a consumer reads on the box and is being led to believe should be delivered after all Vsonic is supposed to be reputable and not some generic Chinese pusher of crap stuff. How is "I don't pay attention to those specs" of use or helpful esp. on Head-fi where we are supposed to be a useful resource and give people all the info they might need/want to make better purchases. Listing every product made 20-20,000 doesn't help differentiate quality at all. Telling them to not give any credence to a products claims is not helping either.
Not sure of the back and forth here. You bring up the LE and that is exactly the point of me asking for the specs and getting them stated here so we can start getting to truth about what Vsonic is claiming and actually putting forth. People want the answers about where these fit in. They are asking are these as good as the GR07 etc. They hear the CEO making claims stating a certain level of performance. I guess we just don't agree on what to do. I don't want to not pay attention to specs or the CEO. I want to find out the answers as to the lower 94 Sens. and how hard to drive they are, do they extend further than other models or not, do they perform up to other competitors models even regardless of the CEO's claims. Why should I blindly try one if I want something only if it will better my Tenore when I can get more info. I am years past the buy just to try stage.
No, I don't pick that. I've heard 90% of all vsonic iems and specs is not what I would be judging them by. Also, 99% of the manufacturers don't deliver the correct specs on the box - that's not something new introduced by vsonic or anything, so you're expecting that if they are not a "generic Chinese company" they should be giving you 100% correct info, especially one that follows your logic ot extension and listed specs coz even far more expensive western brands can't be judged by their specs. No one who's been in this hobby long enough actually trusts the specs on the box, especially the the frequency response.So yeah, 99.99999999999999% of the time specs give you zero information about actual extension on both ends or how easy an iem is to drive.
It's a very rare occurrence to get any actual info on how an iem or headphone performs or is driven based on specs. That's what head-fi is for - to get opinion or review coz you can'r get any info from the manufacturer's specs and even from well done measurements and fr graphs. There are high-end iems and headphones that according to the specs extend to 30+khz that have rolled of treble, there are iems that according to the specs extend down to 5hz that have bass that starts rolling off at 50-60hz. There are iems that heave low impedance and high sensitivity that are very hard to drive and iems with high impedance and low sensitivity that are very easy to drive.
Actually, I'm surprised you're commenting on this at all because sorry but that's what someone who's been in this hobby for a very short time and lacks experience will argue about. So expecting to judge an iem's performance on its specs coz you're "past the buy just to ttry stage" is ridiculous coz it's still all about that unless you really trust certain reviewers
Edited by kova4a - 6/10/14 at 5:03pm