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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Nah, I can't sue your ass anywhere. And why would you want my address - it will cost you north of $1k to pay me a visit and return, so you're better of just buying one yourself :p

 

Anyway, here's the VSD3S vs VSD1LE comparison I promised you:

 

LE's bass is a bit heavier and with more solid body. VSD3S' mids are a bit more V-shaped and more neutral in tone. LE has a touch ticker note presentation and slightly warmer and darker. VSD3S has smoother and more relaxed lower treble in comparison to the LE which is a bit hotter and more aggressive. Both are less prone to pointing out sibilance than most vsonics.  VSD3S' highs extend a lot better while after the peak in the lower treble the LE's highs remain more laid back and roll off earlier, which makes it lose air on top and become a bit dark. VSD3S sounds more spacious and airy. Presentation-wise the VSD3S manages to do what the LE did right by having darker background but also manages to sound more spacious than it. Positioning-wise I'll say they are about equal, which isn't a bad thing as the LE was pretty good in that regard. Overall, the VSD3S is more relaxed and laid back sounding with more neutral tone, smoother and more extended treble and bigger soundstage. I even went through the Ultimate Headphone Demonstration Disc in hi-rez just for my favorite troll.


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Hmmm that sounds interesting, so going by that i would think you prefer the VSD3 over the LEs which is not really surprising. Not sure if i like a more relaxed and laid back sound tbh, and you also mentioned that the mids are "a bit more V-shaped and more neutral in tone" which kinda makes me think that the mids are slightly recessed on the VSD3 compared to the LEs/ regular VSD1s???

 

But what about the resolution of the mids??? How hi-def does it sound and what about the 3-D quality to them??? The "more spacious and airy" quality of the VSD3s seem promising but for some reason i don't think they are as 3D in rendition as compared to hybrids like the DUNU DN1000s.

 

The 3D aspect is what VSonic needs in improve the most in cuz the GR07 BEs basically has it all, great quality textured bass that reaches pretty deep into the sub bass regions with nice quantity, nicely forward mid range that is lush and a nicely extended treble what doesn't really get too hot/bright/ nor sibilant but its 2D rendition just makes it sound a bit old school/ dated these days. Also sound staging could also be wider like the Ostry KC-06s and taller as well with a bit more air added. That would literally turn the GR07 BEs into an almost iem in my book. 

 

These VSD3 sounds like VSonic is mostly going in the right direction though with their budget sets but takes some steps back as well such as the less extension of the treble/ more laid back sound, but a darker background, more spacious/ airy sound seems like winning combo to me. Now they just gots to implement that on top of their gr07 BE sound which will make a killa' nice sounding iem. Here is to hoping and i really hope that is what the VSD5 will be sound like. LoL :L3000:

 

Thanks for the impressions as always meng, and it must be torture going though hi-rez Ultimate Headphone Demonstration Disc to A/B your VSDs, whatever that is. :rolleyes:

 

Sounds like A LOT of lawyer talk to me. : P

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:( left ear crackles and sometimes sound dies out when the cable rotates to a certain orientation. Also noticed that the part that plugs in into my headphone jack is bent at the tip (kind of like -/)

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My right cable cuts out something but that's when I lay on my right side 😃
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anyone able to compare this to the tdk ba200?

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Originally Posted by alfitz View Post

frown.gif left ear crackles and sometimes sound dies out when the cable rotates to a certain orientation. Also noticed that the part that plugs in into my headphone jack is bent at the tip (kind of like -/)

It might or might not work.....but just a try,as for most, its the first hand experience of MMCX connectors which is bit tricky and little afraid to try it self when these kind of situations arise. So pls dont point ur index on me,if it turns out the same way as before......i'll be heart broken. frown.gif

Try pressing the connector very gently to make it catch firmly with the earpiece end(female)..... If no fruitful result, trt removing the cable by holding the earpiece one hand and the cable on the other....you may also try rotating it and try removing it again(detach) if you feel its bit strong. After the cable is removed/detached put it back with firm force,you shd hear a "tik" audible sound meaning that they are interlocked correctly and good to go.
Edited by Shawn71 - 7/5/14 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 


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Hmmm that sounds interesting, so going by that i would think you prefer the VSD3 over the LEs which is not really surprising. Not sure if i like a more relaxed and laid back sound tbh, and you also mentioned that the mids are "a bit more V-shaped and more neutral in tone" which kinda makes me think that the mids are slightly recessed on the VSD3 compared to the LEs/ regular VSD1s???

 

But what about the resolution of the mids??? How hi-def does it sound and what about the 3-D quality to them??? The "more spacious and airy" quality of the VSD3s seem promising but for some reason i don't think they are as 3D in rendition as compared to hybrids like the DUNU DN1000s.

 

The 3D aspect is what VSonic needs in improve the most in cuz the GR07 BEs basically has it all, great quality textured bass that reaches pretty deep into the sub bass regions with nice quantity, nicely forward mid range that is lush and a nicely extended treble what doesn't really get too hot/bright/ nor sibilant but its 2D rendition just makes it sound a bit old school/ dated these days. Also sound staging could also be wider like the Ostry KC-06s and taller as well with a bit more air added. That would literally turn the GR07 BEs into an almost iem in my book. 

 

These VSD3 sounds like VSonic is mostly going in the right direction though with their budget sets but takes some steps back as well such as the less extension of the treble/ more laid back sound, but a darker background, more spacious/ airy sound seems like winning combo to me. Now they just gots to implement that on top of their gr07 BE sound which will make a killa' nice sounding iem. Here is to hoping and i really hope that is what the VSD5 will be sound like. LoL :L3000:

 

Thanks for the impressions as always meng, and it must be torture going though hi-rez Ultimate Headphone Demonstration Disc to A/B your VSDs, whatever that is. :rolleyes:

 

Sounds like A LOT of lawyer talk to me. : P

Yeah, a bit more recessed mids in comparison but that's just what makes a big soundstage. And why are you complaining about soundstage size - you were the one who though LE has a very big soundstage even though I told you it doesn't. Anyway, the vsd3s has a bigger soundstage and yeah handles depth and height very good - better than gr07 IMO. Resolution is fine. Nothing spectacular and not very aggressive in the detailing due to the more relaxed smoother sound but very competent and as I said about on par with iems like vsd1, mh1 etc. 

 

And no, the vsd3s manages to keep the darker background and low background noise floor like with LE without suffering from rolled off treble. It is spacious and airy because the soundstage is big and because the treble extends well not because the background is darker.

 

And that ultimate ....................... disc is great from soundstage assessments and comparisons of positioning, width, height, depth, distance. 

 

And to be honest vsonic is known for its hot treble and the vsd5 is supposed to have more emphasis on the highs, which kinda worries me.

 

As far as the people complaining about sound cutting off - you should unplug the connectors and try using a contact cleaner or if you can't get any then some sort of rubbing alcohol to clean them a bit. 


Edited by kova4a - 7/5/14 at 1:12am
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It has been confirmed that LMUE will sell the red/blue version of VSD3S at the standard price of $54-55, so people shouldn't jump on the ebay offer that is overpriced with 30 bucks.

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

It has been confirmed that LMUE will sell the red/blue version of VSD3S at the standard price of $54-55, so people shouldn't jump on the ebay offer that is overpriced with 30 bucks.

 

So, that was limited to one special order and now it is not. I also think there will be other VSD5 besides pink and purple. I do like the purple actually but no black or red is too odd a choice for me to believe that will not change. Think there will be another color after a bit.


Edited by jant71 - 7/5/14 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

It has been confirmed that LMUE will sell the red/blue version of VSD3S at the standard price of $54-55, so people shouldn't jump on the ebay offer that is overpriced with 30 bucks.

That sounds really good,just as the VSD3S.tongue.gif
post #1705 of 4929
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Originally Posted by Shawn71 View Post


It might or might not work.....but just a try,as for most, its the first hand experience of MMCX connectors which is bit tricky and little afraid to try it self when these kind of situations arise. So pls dont point ur index on me,if it turns out the same way as before......i'll be heart broken. frown.gif

Try pressing the connector very gently to make it catch firmly with the earpiece end(female)..... If no fruitful result, trt removing the cable by holding the earpiece one hand and the cable on the other....you may also try rotating it and try removing it again(detach) if you feel its bit strong. After the cable is removed/detached put it back with firm force,you shd hear a "tik" audible sound meaning that they are interlocked correctly and good to go.

Thanks for the advice, it seems to crackle less now. I'll try cleaning it out as well just to make sure nothing is in between the connectors. The bent plug is definitely not normal though right? Second pair of earphones so it seems a bit odd.

post #1706 of 4929
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Originally Posted by alfitz View Post

Thanks for the advice, it seems to crackle less now. I'll try cleaning it out as well just to make sure nothing is in between the connectors. The bent plug is definitely not normal though right? Second pair of earphones so it seems a bit odd.

you mean the 3.5mm jack got bent? How? Was like that when you opened the box or something happened after that like got little abused?
If possible post a pic. Possibility could be that,the jack might be the culprit. So stop wiggling with the connector,for now.
post #1707 of 4929
So next wed'day will be a WoW Wednesday.......FB update fm lmue.

Hi everyone, all the VSD3S has been snapped up! But don't worry, we just received word that a bit more VSD3S (black and red-blue) and VSD3 are coming to us by next Wednesday. Do check out this space for further updates soon. Thank you for your support! ""
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Got my VSD3S in the mail today. I'm listening to them right now, just kind of describing what I hear from my library.

 

The weird thing I noticed is that even though they were sealed there was no bag of tips. Was everyone else's taped plastic or was it shrink wrapped? The tips on them were the large size where I think the deeper medium ones are stock. Maybe they were used as an audition pair or something? Anyway, not a big deal as I have spare Vsonic tips, and nothing seemingly wrong with the IEMs, but a little weird.  

 

First impressions are pretty much in line with others. Bass is more extended than VSD1 but less of it there and more tight and focused than boomy. You can get some decent sub-bass rumble on certain EDM and hip-hop stuff that extends low, but not really that tickle your ears and shake your head feeling or anything. More the kind you feel in your arms or chest, if that makes sense. Mids feel neutral to me. They're there, and there they are, not really forward but they fill in the gap and they're fairly clear and separated from the rest of the specturm. Guitars and keyboards sound awesome. They feel a bit more forward than the VSD1, but I feel like that's the separation more than the sound signature. Treble isn't sibilant, but it's definitely a little hot. I certainly hear that splash and shimmer in the top end that a couple of people described. Could be a little fatiguing in longer sessions, but Kova and someone else thought they cooled down after a while. Maybe if i listen to things with a lot of cymbal work they'll change a little. I do love the brightness and clarity from acoustic guitars.

 

Separation and imaging is really impressive, at least coming from the VSD1/S. When my girlfriend listened to them she made the comment "it sounds like every instrument is on a different plane". I also agree with Kova that they make the VSD1 sound congested in comparison. Soundstage is nice and wide, and a fair bit deeper than the VSD1. Can't comment on height too much as I'm not that attuned to critical listening and I only really hear that obviously with binaural recordings. I can hear that sort of "swirling around your head" sensation that a more circular soundstage brings than with the VSD1. I actually thought the detail was a little bit better than the VSD1 as well, particularly in the higher end of the signature. I could hear more things like piano noises, breaths, bass string vibration, pick noise, cotton mouth in female vocalists, etc. Again, it may just be the separation that makes these stand out more to me, but I can definitely pick them up more clearly and readily than the VSD1. Overall, the sound feels somewhere between neutral and warm; a bit laid back, but also full and clear to my ears. I haven't tried any tips other than Vsonics yet, but the medium single flange from the VSD1 sounds best to me.

 

Pretty much ever genre I've listened to sounds great. Well engineered stuff like Diana Krall, Dave Brubeck, Steely Dan, Dream Theater, etc. sounds best on these, but everything else sounds just fine to me. The only gripe I have is hoping the treble peak tones down a little, but I'm super happy for 45 bucks. I'd definitely give these a look if you're like me and stay around the $50 range of IEMs. Not sure how they stack up to things in the $150 range, but I'm enjoying these a lot and they sound a great deal better than my previous favorites, the VSD1/S. 


Edited by ZapX629 - 7/5/14 at 11:56am
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Just got message that VSD3 will ship this Tuesday/Wednesday.... think I'll wait until it comes before I take the S out of the box....

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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

Just got message that VSD3 will ship this Tuesday/Wednesday.... think I'll wait until it comes before I take the S out of the box....

From LMUE? Pre-ordered VSD3 but haven't gotten word yet.
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