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post #1276 of 4049
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

No, sorry. I've only got a couple of over $100 IEM's and they're outdated. That's also the reason I never got any more of them. I prefer to put the higher amounts of money on full sized cans.


i think its a better option,,,too much conflicting reports on iem's to spend a fortune on them.

i may also venture into full sized cans next year

post #1277 of 4049
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


i think its a better option,,,too much conflicting reports on iem's to spend a fortune on them.

i may also venture into full sized cans next year

I think so as well . Just more difficult to hide from the sight of my better half :D

post #1278 of 4049
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

Compared to VSD1 the VSD3S has better bass (more deep bass less boomy mid bass), better clarity, better soundstage, better separation, more airy sound......... 

 

So in other words, just better. Can't wait to hear them. 

post #1279 of 4049
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

So in other words, just better. Can't wait to hear them. 

Yep, plain and simple. 

post #1280 of 4049
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post

 

I think you're probably right on that. Not sure whether it equates to technology, tuning, or what, but it seems like a lot of lesser known but capable manufacturers (by which I mean the Vsonics, Brainwavz, Ostry, Zero, etc. rather than the Shures, Senns, JVCs, Sonys, etc), are making strides in those areas. I think if anything gets consistent hype from respected head-fiers like Joker, Kova, ClieOS, and even Jude or Tyll, there's probably something to that. Like I said, everyone looks for something different from an IEM or Headphone. Some might love a warm, sweet sound, while another wants a cold and analytical. Some may want a bright upper end, while others are horrified by it. For instance, sardar hated the MH1, while it's one of the most consistently recommended IEMS.

 

The hype train can get a little crazy sometimes, but when an IEM is generally seen as very good, despite not being perfect (as no IEM in any price range is) I think it speaks more to the fact that manufacturers are getting better than that people are just riding the rails on that hype train.

 



I would not be surprised if sub $100 IEM's do sound better in the last year or so. I'm also convinced, just based on the size of the driver/s alone, that sound quality has to be significantly compromised in any event.

I don't intend to buy many different sets of IEM's. Right now I just want one pair of very good sounding IEM's with excellent isolation for $50 or less.

What prevents me from jumping right in is a lack of objective data to back up the anecdotal, subjective reports.

I remember when publications like high fidelity and stereophile published very detailed tech data. Nowadays, most of the information regarding headphones is subjective and given the huge variation in personal preferences and individual setups it seems almost impossible to get a clear picture of how good particular headphones are.
post #1281 of 4049
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

 

I think you're probably right on that. Not sure whether it equates to technology, tuning, or what, but it seems like a lot of lesser known but capable manufacturers (by which I mean the Vsonics, Brainwavz, Ostry, Zero, etc. rather than the Shures, Senns, JVCs, Sonys, etc), are making strides in those areas. I think if anything gets consistent hype from respected head-fiers like Joker, Kova, ClieOS, and even Jude or Tyll, there's probably something to that. Like I said, everyone looks for something different from an IEM or Headphone. Some might love a warm, sweet sound, while another wants a cold and analytical. Some may want a bright upper end, while others are horrified by it. For instance, sardar hated the MH1, while it's one of the most consistently recommended IEMS.

 

The hype train can get a little crazy sometimes, but when an IEM is generally seen as very good, despite not being perfect (as no IEM in any price range is) I think it speaks more to the fact that manufacturers are getting better than that people are just riding the rails on that hype train.

 



I would not be surprised if sub $100 IEM's do sound better in the last year or so. I'm also convinced, just based on the size of the driver/s alone, that sound quality has to be significantly compromised in any event.

I don't intend to buy many different sets of IEM's. Right now I just want one pair of very good sounding IEM's with excellent isolation for $50 or less.

What prevents me from jumping right in is a lack of objective data to back up the anecdotal, subjective reports.

I remember when publications like high fidelity and stereophile published very detailed tech data. Nowadays, most of the information regarding headphones is subjective and given the huge variation in personal preferences and individual setups it seems almost impossible to get a clear picture of how good particular headphones are.


i am totally with u man.

i want an objective assesement with proper frequency curve and other parameters,,enough of this subjective 'enjoyable' iem bullcrap.

post #1282 of 4049
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

 

I think you're probably right on that. Not sure whether it equates to technology, tuning, or what, but it seems like a lot of lesser known but capable manufacturers (by which I mean the Vsonics, Brainwavz, Ostry, Zero, etc. rather than the Shures, Senns, JVCs, Sonys, etc), are making strides in those areas. I think if anything gets consistent hype from respected head-fiers like Joker, Kova, ClieOS, and even Jude or Tyll, there's probably something to that. Like I said, everyone looks for something different from an IEM or Headphone. Some might love a warm, sweet sound, while another wants a cold and analytical. Some may want a bright upper end, while others are horrified by it. For instance, sardar hated the MH1, while it's one of the most consistently recommended IEMS.

 

The hype train can get a little crazy sometimes, but when an IEM is generally seen as very good, despite not being perfect (as no IEM in any price range is) I think it speaks more to the fact that manufacturers are getting better than that people are just riding the rails on that hype train.


i never hated mh1,,its that they retail for 90-100$ in the market with box and warranty and sound like that only while people are going gaga over them as most of us(including me) got them for 25-30$ as oem without extra tips and warranty.

 

so yeah its unfair to say they are superb at their original price of 100$ when they clearly are not that good.

 

 

On the perfect iem..............technically speaking the more neutral an iem the better it is,,,rest is subjective.

 

The forum has really gone imdb.com way.

Too many people(including me) have joined the forum,,,too many(like me) are inexperienced in the nuances and too many(again like me) are passing judgements without having the slightest idea(like me:eek:)

post #1283 of 4049

have you guys tried other types of cable on the VSD3's? Do Shure cables work? I ask because it would be nice to have mic/button control functionality. I have the GR07BE and all 3 versions of VSD1's and the only missing function is the mic/buttons, so my player can stay in my pocket.

post #1284 of 4049
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Originally Posted by esteebin View Post
 

have you guys tried other types of cable on the VSD3's? Do Shure cables work? I ask because it would be nice to have mic/button control functionality. I have the GR07BE and all 3 versions of VSD1's and the only missing function is the mic/buttons, so my player can stay in my pocket.

Would you recommend the GR07 BEs? Ive been monitoring this thread with mixed impressions. Are they worth paying more for to get a good pair of IEMs compared to under 100 ones?

post #1285 of 4049
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


i am totally with u man.

i want an objective assesement with proper frequency curve and other parameters,,enough of this subjective 'enjoyable' iem bullcrap.

Well, technically it's still subjective. First, because different people use different equipment and measuring techniques and they will still argue, who is right and who is doing it wrong. You can have goldenears and Rin telling you they are doing it all wrong or someone else saying that Tyll is doing it wrong etc. Also, measurements can give you a general idea of extension on both ends, dips or peaks in the FR and distortion but you still can't tell from the measurements if an headphone or iem is neutral in tone or warm or cold, or how thick is the note presentation, or how big is the soundstage, or how accurate is the positioning etc. And most people still don't understand the measurements or interpret them differently and in the end different tips, different ear canals and different insertion depth will also affect the final sound.

post #1286 of 4049

Mine are out for delivery for anyone that got one of the few with the vsd3 pre order. 

post #1287 of 4049
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Originally Posted by jaybird123 View Post
 

Mine are out for delivery for anyone that got one of the few with the vsd3 pre order. 

Great, we need more impressions. I just can't believe that my pair made it to Norway that fast. Maybe someone was sleeping in custom when they entered the country................

post #1288 of 4049
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

Great, we need more impressions. I just can't believe that my pair made it to Norway that fast. Maybe someone was sleeping in custom when they entered the country................

Nah, they were probably doing their job - got the package, processed it and the post office took over. Now, in my case probably everyone is actually sleeping or they just put on a huge pile of newer stuff on top of it and who knows how long I'll wait till I get it. 

post #1289 of 4049
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Nah, they were probably doing their job - got the package, processed it and the post office took over. Now, in my case probably everyone is actually sleeping or they just put on a huge pile of newer stuff on top of it and who knows how long I'll wait till I get it. 

Lol, you're probably right. Are yours stucked in custom?

post #1290 of 4049
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

Lol, you're probably right. Are yours stucked in custom?

Yeah, so far I can't really start complaining coz they've been there for 3 days. At this point I don't even care whether they'll process and release them or process and hold them till I pay the taxes. Usually I worry about taxes but they won't be too bad on a $37 iem - in comparison I'm literally dreading the moment I have to deal with the customs and the Noble 6 coz that will probably be cool 300 bucks in taxes. I just generally hate the customs and all the people who work there

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