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It always makes me chuckle to see how different opinions are. I remember when the VSD1 was the best thing going and then the Pistons were supposed to blow away 150 dollar IEMs for a fifth the price. Now the Tenores and Ostrys are the gold standard. And everyone has different opinions. For all the hype, there's always someone saying they aren't that great. Just goes to show that different people look for different things in their music. Except for Joker. His word is gospel :p

 

BTW, Peter, how do you compare the VSD1 family to the VSD 3 family? Doesn't have to be detailed or anything, I was just curious since the VSD1 is my best IEM at the moment.

post #1262 of 4081
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Uh... I'm okay with you renouncing your love of each and every phone you encounter the second you hear a new one:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/23445#post_10401991

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zero-audio-zh-dx200-carbo-tenore-zh-dx210-carbo-basso-carbon-aluminium-iem-information-appreciation-and-impressions-thread/1260#post_10541964

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/23550#post_10411349

http://www.head-fi.org/t/718900/the-ostry-kc06a-the-guy-who-surprises-with-sound-class-look-and-many-more-d

http://www.head-fi.org/t/669510/the-new-iem-of-vsonic-vsd-3s-impression-updated-by-smailbz/1005#post_10657477

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/24795#post_10572795



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but the Tenore is in no way V shaped. We already have measurements that show it's very linear (aside from fluctuations to the low end by a few dBs on some units):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zero-audio-zh-dx200-carbo-tenore-zh-dx210-carbo-basso-carbon-aluminium-iem-information-appreciation-and-impressions-thread/1155#post_10529863

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You also seem to ascribe the word "natural" to seemingly every phone you hear. You describe natural as the following:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/21765#post_10264831

Then we have this:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zero-audio-zh-dx200-carbo-tenore-zh-dx210-carbo-basso-carbon-aluminium-iem-information-appreciation-and-impressions-thread/1440#post_10553107

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/23880#post_10461085

http://www.head-fi.org/t/706595/review-ostry-kc06/765#post_10449886

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/21765#post_10264785

http://www.head-fi.org/t/681435/dunu-dn-1000-dunus-hybrid-iem-appreciation-thread/540#post_10157143

http://www.head-fi.org/t/708935/dunu-dn-2000-hybrid-impressions-thread-its-here/540#post_10597612

So am I to believe that whole pockets of reality are created each time you get ahold of something new, cause everything is natural (and yet nothing is), or is the goalpost of what constitutes "natural" sound just gettin shifted each and every time? :l

Wait, what was that about naturalness and neutrality again? Oh yeah, right:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/21765#post_10264831

Then again:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/669510/the-new-iem-of-vsonic-vsd-3s-impression-updated-by-smailbz/1005#post_10657486

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This post made my day.

So impatiently waiting for Kova's review.

He and wayneworld's made me get vsd1 and it was insane till some guy stole them in college.

In my opinion everything else is nugatory.

post #1263 of 4081
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


after mh1 i have been uber careful on what i believe and what not.

Sounds like a vise approach :beerchug:

 

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Peter, how does the bass of the vsd3s compare to the Tenore bass?

I found the Tenores to have the perfect bass, especially quantity and presentation (subbass). 

Do the vsd3s go as deep as that, or are they more on vs1 level? (midbass)

They're pretty similar in the deep bass. The VSD3S bass does have a bit more impact and it also goes a bit higher up in the frequenzies. I prefer the bass of the Tenores by a small margin and find it perfect as well.

 

I prefer the bass on the VSD3S compared to the VSD1 by a bigger margin.

post #1264 of 4081
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I hate long quotes... But this - fantastic


who is this poor guy,,,lol

post #1265 of 4081
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It always makes me chuckle to see how different opinions are. I remember when the VSD1 was the best thing going and then the Pistons were supposed to blow away 150 dollar IEMs for a fifth the price. Now the Tenores and Ostrys are the gold standard. And everyone has different opinions. For all the hype, there's always someone saying they aren't that great. Just goes to show that different people look for different things in their music. Except for Joker. His word is gospel " src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif" />. 



 



BTW, Peter, how do you compare the VSD1 family to the VSD 3 family? Doesn't have to be detailed or anything, I was just curious since the VSD1 is my best IEM at the moment.


 



What do you think is motivating the hype train?

Or, is it the case that manuf. are finally figuring out how to produce hi fidelity IEM's at the sub $100 price piont consistently?

Nor a rhetorical question, I'm legitimately interested.
post #1266 of 4081

To respond to one point, I think the difference between neutral and natural is easy: neutral is measurably flat, natural is audibly flawless to the ear - everything you could ask for - and changes from listener to listener

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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

It always makes me chuckle to see how different opinions are. I remember when the VSD1 was the best thing going and then the Pistons were supposed to blow away 150 dollar IEMs for a fifth the price. Now the Tenores and Ostrys are the gold standard. And everyone has different opinions. For all the hype, there's always someone saying they aren't that great. Just goes to show that different people look for different things in their music. Except for Joker. His word is gospel <img src=

 

 

 

BTW, Peter, how do you compare the VSD1 family to the VSD 3 family? Doesn't have to be detailed or anything, I was just curious since the VSD1 is my best IEM at the moment.

 



What do you think is motivating the hype train?

Or, is it the case that manuf. are finally figuring out how to produce hi fidelity IEM's at the sub $100 price piont consistently?

Nor a rhetorical question, I'm legitimately interested.

 

to be sure u have to own and compare the iem urself.

 

it may not be hype but it may be too!!

post #1268 of 4081

#yolo

Bought the vsd3s for $60 instead of retail from penonaudio. Can't wait for it to arrive!

post #1269 of 4081
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

It always makes me chuckle to see how different opinions are. I remember when the VSD1 was the best thing going and then the Pistons were supposed to blow away 150 dollar IEMs for a fifth the price. Now the Tenores and Ostrys are the gold standard. And everyone has different opinions. For all the hype, there's always someone saying they aren't that great. Just goes to show that different people look for different things in their music. Except for Joker. His word is gospel :p

 

BTW, Peter, how do you compare the VSD1 family to the VSD 3 family? Doesn't have to be detailed or anything, I was just curious since the VSD1 is my best IEM at the moment.

Sorry missed this post.

 

Compared to VSD1 the VSD3S has better bass (more deep bass less boomy mid bass), better clarity, better soundstage, better separation, more airy sound......... 

 

The bold in the quote is exactly what I ment when saying that the Tenores or AX-35 are great IEM's but not my ideal sound (and I do like them, just like some others even more). I can totally understand that some people will love them and rate them higher than the VSD3S for example. And yes, Joker is THE MAN.


Edited by peter123 - 6/26/14 at 12:05pm
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Sorry missed this post.

 

Compared to VSD1 the VSD3S has better bass (more deep bass less boomy mid bass), better clarity, better soundstage, better separation, more airy sound......... 


i am only interested in vsd3 vs gr07,,,,can u shed some light??

 

or compare with some 100$ iem

post #1271 of 4081
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What do you think is motivating the hype train?

Or, is it the case that manuf. are finally figuring out how to produce hi fidelity IEM's at the sub $100 price piont consistently?

Nor a rhetorical question, I'm legitimately interested.

 

I think you're probably right on that. Not sure whether it equates to technology, tuning, or what, but it seems like a lot of lesser known but capable manufacturers (by which I mean the Vsonics, Brainwavz, Ostry, Zero, etc. rather than the Shures, Senns, JVCs, Sonys, etc), are making strides in those areas. I think if anything gets consistent hype from respected head-fiers like Joker, Kova, ClieOS, and even Jude or Tyll, there's probably something to that. Like I said, everyone looks for something different from an IEM or Headphone. Some might love a warm, sweet sound, while another wants a cold and analytical. Some may want a bright upper end, while others are horrified by it. For instance, sardar hated the MH1, while it's one of the most consistently recommended IEMS.

 

The hype train can get a little crazy sometimes, but when an IEM is generally seen as very good, despite not being perfect (as no IEM in any price range is) I think it speaks more to the fact that manufacturers are getting better than that people are just riding the rails on that hype train.

post #1272 of 4081
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i am only interested in vsd3 vs gr07,,,,can u shed some light??

 

or compare with some 100$ iem

Sorry, have never heard the GR07 serie.

post #1273 of 4081
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

 

Edit: I'm actually surprised that more people haven't received theirs. I thought there were a bunch of people here signing up for the pre-order. 

 

Haven't checked the mail yet today, but I ordered them with the first pre order of the VSD3, so I would think they should be here soon. 

post #1274 of 4081
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

Sorry, have never heard the GR07 serie.


any other high end earphone comparison??

anything above 100$??

post #1275 of 4081
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


any other high end earphone comparison??

anything above 100$??

No, sorry. I've only got a couple of over $100 IEM's and they're outdated. That's also the reason I never got any more of them. I prefer to put the higher amounts of money on full sized cans since they seem to be more resistant to be outdated.


Edited by peter123 - 6/26/14 at 12:19pm
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