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post #16 of 59
Thank you rudi,
You are truly a pathfinder in the Headfi wilderness.

Appreciate your help
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post

Sorry for late reply
Battle of 3 single ended high end amp :

Source : AK 120
Amp : from left to right
RSA RS 71 A > RSA Intruder > Pico Power
Headphone : Ultrasone Sig Pro
Cable : oyaide headphone cable
Wagnus mini to mini

RS 71 A :
High : similar to Pico Power , below Intruder
Mid : the sweetest midrange from these 3
Bass : the best bass impact and slam from these 3
Soundstage : very depth , is not as wide as these 2
Separation : the other 2 has better instrument placement .

Intruder :
High : is more open than RS 71 A and Pico Power
Mid : is not as sweet as RS 71 A , is on par with pico power has a bit sibilance
Bass : has less bass impact compare to RS 71 A , is below Pico Power too
Soundstage : wider than RS 71 A , is on par with Pico Power
Separation : better than RS 71 A , is on par with Pico Power.

Pico Power :
High : on par with RS 71 A
Mid : below RS 71 A , is on par with Intruder
Bass : less impact compare RS 71 A , but better than Intruder .
Soundstage : wider than RS 71 A , on par with Intruder .
Separation : is on par with Intruder , better than RS 71 A.

Power wise : RS 71 A > Pico Power > Intruder
Clarity : Intruder > Pico Power > RS 71 A
Mid : RS 71 A > Intruder > Pico Power
Bass impact : RS 71 A > Pico Power > Intruder

IMO

These 3 high end portable amp has their strong and weak point .
Nobody is perfect biggrin.gif

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post #17 of 59
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Originally Posted by lescanadiens View Post

Thank you rudi,
You are truly a pathfinder in the Headfi wilderness.

Appreciate your help

You are welcome
I hope you can choose between these 3 portable amps
post #18 of 59
Silly question: does the AK120 has an analog line out? No where in the spec I can find it mentioned. Also will that be a problem double ampping from the headphone out?
post #19 of 59
Pico Power compared to intruder , noticed what I call a kick must be what the impact on bass , you are descrbing- still trying to learn terms smily_headphones1.gif

Now , how does that cables for sig. Pro compare to stock? Sorry, if off topic
Edited by snapple10 - 7/28/13 at 5:27pm
post #20 of 59
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


Sorry for late reply
Battle of 3 single ended high end amp :


These 3 high end portable amp has their strong and weak point .
Nobody is perfect biggrin.gif

 

 

OK but if you were trapped on a desert island the AK120, a set of CIEM's and just one of these amps....which one would it be??  redface.gif

post #21 of 59
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Originally Posted by harryb View Post

 

 

OK but if you were trapped on a desert island the AK120, a set of CIEM's and just one of these amps....which one would it be??  redface.gif

 

I would pick the Intruder because it has a dac and built-in batteries. Not that it would help much in a desert biggrin.gif

post #22 of 59
I will choose PP, and if possible to own both, then Intruder.

Following criterias:
Sq: comparable according to rudi's description.
Price: PP is more affordable compared to Intruder.
Build: PP is hands down more attractive.
You have to see PP in person to appreciate the build quality. The most beautifully constructed portable amp i have seen.

It comes to a matter of taste sq wise and convenience.

PP has no dac (unless you use PC).

Battery swapping is quite annoying with all things rechargeable these days.

Balance outputs. Unless we have a balanced hp, then we don't need to.

With AK120, i have tried, it sounds magical with PP, single ended.

IMHO.


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I would pick the Intruder because it has a dac and built-in batteries. Not that it would help much in a desert biggrin.gif
post #23 of 59
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Silly question: does the AK120 has an analog line out? No where in the spec I can find it mentioned. Also will that be a problem double ampping from the headphone out?

anyone has an answer for this?  I am thinking of using the AK120 as a source for my Stepdance, but not sure if it's possible since Stepdance does not an optical input.

 

Thanks!
 

Leon

post #24 of 59
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Originally Posted by cukis350 View Post

anyone has an answer for this?  I am thinking of using the AK120 as a source for my Stepdance, but not sure if it's possible since Stepdance does not an optical input.

 

Thanks!
 

Leon

I think that should be fine, as the best answer I found was that the headphone out is basically a variable line out, which in some sense is just playing with words.  However, given the quality of the AK120, I do think there should not be any distorsion at max volume.

post #25 of 59
+1 cranking the volume to max did not create audible distortion (that I could perceive anyway) from the headphone out on my AK100 when running into my preamp on my main system. I have since had it modded to RWAK-S so it's truly line level out, but it did fine before being modded with the volume maxed (though now it sounds noticeably better). I would imagine the same is true for the AK120 going to your Stepdance.
post #26 of 59
Thank you guys for your replies. Btw, do you know of any optical cable that works with the AK1XX that you can recommend?
post #27 of 59
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Originally Posted by cukis350 View Post

Thank you guys for your replies. Btw, do you know of any optical cable that works with the AK1XX that you can recommend?

If you're gonna connect it to your stepdance, you won't be able to use the optical connection. Any mini jack at the ak120 will suffice.
post #28 of 59
Oh I'm asking in general about the optical cable that will work with the AK120. I'm familiar with optical with toslink connector but not the 3.5mm jack.
post #29 of 59

I got mine from Sys. Concept Inc. in Canada total to $67.51 CAD shipped.  VentureCraft also has one ready made but it is almost triple the price.

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