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post #226 of 632

That' what i tought so!

Asus continue to ignore drivers for Win 7 X64. Two years ago i had very,very hard time with XONAR D1 and W 7 X64. Sadly,after all this years i see no improvements.

 

L.E.

Now that's funny! When i unpluged the mic,BF4 has no noise moments anymore in the end of the rounds! Despite the fact that i had no interference problems in Skype,the microphone prove to be the ''problem''?... Also when i unpluged the mic, line-in was greyed-out too... Hmm,strange situation!

Why i think that under Windows 8.1 there is no such issues?...

 

L.E 2

Unbelieveble! I was mistake about noise dissapearing... Mic has nothing to do with that! I discover that simply turn off DOLBY EQ while i playing just stopped the discrete hiss in BF4.

Why ASUS choose to implement this DOLBY crap i don't understand,instead to put a nice old-school 10 band EQ like they did with old Xonars..

I know from the beginning it was just a software related issue,but i did not consider DOLBY.

Curious is that PHILIPS SHP 3000 cans work brilliant with DOLBY in games and movies,but KAVE not!

Maybe has something to do with some sort of incompatibility between DOLBY and high sound resolution like 24/192 setted for KAVE? With SHP 3000 i only set to 16/48.

I don't have normal speakers to test,though.


Edited by Jaeger 77 - 5/5/14 at 6:52am
post #227 of 632

I missed Dolby Headphone so I picked up a Xonar U7.

 

Too bad I can't actually get it to DO any legit Dolby Headphone.  Not sure if it even can.  It seems like it's crippled to only doing Pro Logic due to not being able to feed the Dolby software actual discrete multi-channel surround.  I think everything gets bottlenecked down two channels before Dolby sees it, then gets upmixed back to pro logic surround.

 

I know pietcux mentioned that Dolby said it is supposed to still work somehow, but I'm not hearing it.  That conversation was just with Dolby, and doesn't take into account the Xonar side of things, which may still be gimping Dolby from working properly (bottlenecking sources down to 2 channels before Dolby even gets it.).

http://www.head-fi.org/t/669127/asus-xonar-u7-dac-amp-appreciation-impressions-thread/150#post_10284764

 

 

It's got three outputs, "Headphones, Speaker, and SPDIF". 

 

1.  The "Headphones" output can only be set to 2 channel in windows.  No "Configure Speakers" options.  So you just supposed to set it as your default audio device and trust that somehow the game is still going to decide to send discrete multi-channel audio to it so Dolby Headphone can work properly?  Can't seem to get it to work - everything sounds like pro-logic.

 

2.  The "Speakers" output CAN be "configured" to 5.1 or 7.1, but it splits that output between 5 analog jacks at the back.  If you take a line out from the red/white RCAs, you only hear the front L/R channels of the mix. 

 

3.  The SPDIF/optical output is either PCM or Dolby Digital.  The Dolby Digital is at least correctly encoded and without lag, but the PCM options doesn't properly apply Dolby Headphone when you try and enable it

 

You guys who claim your getting proper Dolby Headphone to work with this:  What are your settings??


Edited by chicolom - 5/7/14 at 1:03pm
post #228 of 632

Indeed, I have found that Dolby Headphone does lack this functionality. It works fine in games where games themselves allow you to select the output, and it works fine with, say, the K-Lite Codec Pack. But with games which auto-select their output based on what they think your setup is, it doesn't work (as they assume you have stereo, whilst with the Xonar Dg, you could trick these games into thinking you had 7.1).

 

Although the surround virtualization with stereo audio still works rather decently and does actually give you some decent information,  it hardly works as well as a Xonar DG did when it was set to 8 channel mode.

 

I have e-mailed this query to Asus support, and they had this to answer:

 

Quote:

Dear (My name),

 

Thank you for your email.

If I understand you correctly for the surround virtualization option you would like to be able to select a other speaker set up.
This so other software thinks more speakers are connected and this can be heard in the virtualization.

We can forward your idea to the correct department, however we can't guarantee that this will be implemented.
Our headquarters in Taiwan will be notified of your idea however.

I hope to have informed you enough.

Kind regards/ vriendelijke groet,

Ferron Feiken.
Asus TSD.

post #229 of 632
The specs of the Xonar Essence 2 which is released show dedicated Dolby Headphone like it's predecessors. The U7 is lacking it obviously. The older Xonar U1 still has this funtionality though.
post #230 of 632

It's not Dolby Headphone that is the issue here, though, it's being able to select the amount of input channels (2 4 6 8 channel selector in the older Xonar cards) what is missing.

post #231 of 632
The DHT4 software simply does not have this selector.
post #232 of 632

True, but neither did dolby headphone - the option was integrated into the Xonar Audio Center, and u7 still has one of those.

post #233 of 632
But you cannot force more than 2 audio channels when using headphone. So the Xonar software that accompanies the U7 is totally different from the one that comes with the U1, U3, Xonar Essence........
Maybe one could tweak the Windows registry somewhere to force 5.1 and 7.1 on the headphone out.
post #234 of 632
Quote:
Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

But you cannot force more than 2 audio channels when using headphone. So the Xonar software that accompanies the U7 is totally different from the one that comes with the U1, U3, Xonar Essence........
Maybe one could tweak the Windows registry somewhere to force 5.1 and 7.1 on the headphone out.

it would be good if it was possible with xonar phoebus too,, I need to use Razer surround to get it, they've upgrades the quality in the latest version.

post #235 of 632
Quote:
Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

But you cannot force more than 2 audio channels when using headphone. So the Xonar software that accompanies the U7 is totally different from the one that comes with the U1, U3, Xonar Essence........

 

Yes I know, and I'd like to see this functionality back, hence me e-mailing support. It seems we are actually on the same page, but we both missed that :P.

 

[quote]I need to use Razer surround to get it, they've upgrades the quality in the latest version.[/quote]

 

This is actually a good tip. Do you use Razer Surround in combo with DHT or do you use it seperately?

post #236 of 632
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoerasGrizzly View Post
 

 

Yes I know, and I'd like to see this functionality back, hence me e-mailing support. It seems we are actually on the same page, but we both missed that :P.

 

[quote]I need to use Razer surround to get it, they've upgrades the quality in the latest version.[/quote]

 

This is actually a good tip. Do you use Razer Surround in combo with DHT or do you use it seperately?

only Razer  surround , DHT is not needed combined with razer.

post #237 of 632
Yea let's give Razor a shot. The first rev. was not too good. Especially with the sound that should come from behind you
post #238 of 632
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoerasGrizzly View Post
 

It's not Dolby Headphone that is the issue here, though, it's being able to select the amount of input channels (2 4 6 8 channel selector in the older Xonar cards) what is missing.

 

 

Yeah, this ^. 

 

Only being able to select 2 channels prevents you from getting the full discrete multi-channel information from your sources. 

post #239 of 632

just got mine today.only played Borderlands 2 with it so far.still trying to figure out how to best set it up.looks like you guys aren't to happy with the surround sound. 

post #240 of 632

Great thread, read all the posts. This sound card is on the top of my list, probably buying one on monday; first I have a couple of questions though:

- I plan on getting a pair of Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro with impedance of 80 Ohm; since some appear to be having trouble driving 50 Ohm headphones, should I expect any of the same problems? 

- As someone who's never owned an actual sound card and has never used surround sound in headphones, how does Skype handle it? I read that it's a bad idea playing music in surround mode, and I'm often on Skype while gaming and therefore wondering if the call will get all echo-y since the input is not 7.1.

- The last post in this thread was about using Razer software instead of DHTv4, any update on this?

 

Thanks in advance!

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