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post #361 of 767
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

But seeing that the ASG-2 and 1Plus2 present bigger, more spacious stages than the SD3 without sounding like bright and sibilant messes, I think there's some truth to calling the SD3 dark. Plus, both go deeper in the bass, have better height and depth, and are more textured.

 

The only way i see someone using the SD3 as their main iem (after auditioning others above and below it) is if they have an extreme, almost phobic, fear of sibilance.

 

Or for economic reasons as well, both you mentione are much more expensive in Europe.

 

Edit : Paid less than 450$ and delivered in 2 days.

Numéro de commande:       201328.647279
Montant total:            377.31 EUR


Edited by Migou67 - 7/18/13 at 10:57am
post #362 of 767
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Sinth, do not worry, James444 soon will listen to both and he has good ears and can write up nicely his findings. I will also get my hands on them. So the jury is still out... in small Alpine town :-P

Read my review while listening if possible mate, oh and you will come across a part that mentions dark etc. (in case you think I have edited you can see the edit times)

I think this shows that some members don`t even read a review with their rose tinted own iem glasses.

 

My gripe is with "Strange". 

 

Anyway... onwards and upwards! nothing more on the matter :-)


Edited by Sinth - 7/18/13 at 10:54am
post #363 of 767
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Sinth, do not worry, James444 soon will listen to both and he has good ears and can write up nicely his findings. I will also get my hands on them. So the jury is still out... in small Alpine town :-P

Wait. Van Halen James, James? tongue.gif
post #364 of 767
Sinth, no worries mate.

Vwinter, Van Halen no prob but i will subject him to analogue and vinyl in retribution :-P
Funnily when i first met James he was more talking about orchestral classical music, so now i now he was talking about Van Halen then :-D
post #365 of 767
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Originally Posted by Sinth View Post

 

I think this shows that some members don`t even read a review with their rose tinted own iem glasses.

 

 

rolleyes.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Sinth, no worries mate.

Vwinter, Van Halen no prob but i will subject him to analogue and vinyl in retribution :-P
Funnily when i first met James he was more talking about orchestral classical music, so now i now he was talking about Van Halen then :-D

 

Wait, I only sent James the asg-2. The SD3 wasn't mine to lend out.

post #366 of 767
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

rolleyes.gif

 

 

 

Wait, I only sent James the asg-2. The SD3 wasn't mine to lend out.

 

We have to wait on Carlsan for another comparison, but is in holiday on the beach cool.gif
post #367 of 767
ops, i misunderstood, so no side by side? ahrrrrrr.... :-(
post #368 of 767
Thread Starter 

Maybe at some point I could send you my pair. Quite an expensive F`up if things go wrong, surprised people throw that sort of money around but maybe....

post #369 of 767
Quote: Ultrazino
Instead of 'strange', let's say 'full'. Switching between a neutral pair and the SD3, I'd even say 'bloated'. But actually the W4 is also too well-bodied.

 

 

yeah, change "strange" into "full", "surprisingly full" ;)

 

 

I've tried to eq them half-assed with poweramp(125 and 250 Hz) just for a quick impression, but you got to be careful because the sd3 might sound too thin and the voices not so real anymore if you lower these frequencies too much. People tend to lower it too much because they are almost paranoid about a too dark sound.

 

eke, the sd3 is on the darker side, but there are darker earphones, much darker... the w3 or tf10 are darker because on the sd3, the midrange is not recessed.... and I can't stand recessed mids and a too dark sound signatures, so, the sd3 is dark in a good way. Because of the SD3 I'm more sensitive for bright sound signatures and recognize too bright sound signatures sooner than before, the sd3 has got a natural warmth, not definitely too warm and it doesn't trick you with boosted 2-10 khz areas. Bright Recordings sound just right and dark recordings maybe a bit too dark, the sd3 never gets too bright, at least, not even at 100 dB. It's almost like that they are just built to perform at 80 dB+.(STAGEdiver3, for musicians on STAGE)  ;)


Edited by Nestroit - 7/18/13 at 12:22pm
post #370 of 767
Nestriot, i do not have IEM comparison to make my point but many so-called experts would tell you Sonus Faber loudspeakers sound dark... Until you pair them with the right source, then you will hear something that will make you forget the rest, i remember how jaw of my high-end dealer dropped on the floor when i insisted he would connect Sonus instead of ugly monsters he had in setup, he was even angry at me first but then Sonus fired up and all what he could say was Ooooo...ch... singers just entered the room, guitar riffs pierced walls and bass reverb sent us to heaven.

so much for experience, so that is why i always talk about the right source and synergy.
post #371 of 767
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Originally Posted by Nestroit View Post

yeah, change "strange" into "full", "surprisingly full" ;)

 

 

I've tried to eq them half-assed with poweramp(125 and 250 Hz) just for a quick impression, but you got to be careful because the sd3 might sound too thin and the voices not so real anymore if you lower these frequencies too much. People tend to lower it too much because they are almost paranoid about a too dark sound.

 

eke, the sd3 is on the darker side, but there are darker earphones, much darker... the w3 or tf10 are darker because on the sd3, the midrange is not recessed.... and I can't stand recessed mids and a too dark sound signatures, so, the sd3 is dark in a good way. Because of the SD3 I'm more sensitive for bright sound signatures and recognize too bright sound signatures sooner than before, the sd3 has got a natural warmth, not definitely too warm and it doesn't trick you with boosted 2-10 khz areas. Bright Recordings sound just right and dark recordings maybe a bit too dark, the sd3 never gets too bright, at least, not even at 100 dB. It's almost like that they are just built to perform at 80 dB+. ;)

 

Eh? Maybe it's a matter of semantics, but I found the TF10 to be pretty metallic/sparkly up top. I'd never describe the TF10 as dark, regardless of the recession. The midrange recession actually makes them sound brighter. I don't know about the W3, but it's been described in the same way.

 

I think I'll stop making specific comments about the SD3 now, since I sent them back. My specific sonic memory is starting to fade.

post #372 of 767
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

both go deeper in the bass

 

How is this even possible? Which frequencies can you hear with another IEM that you can't hear with SD3?

post #373 of 767
Thread Starter 
Dont bother Ultrazino. Noisia shows there is no lower you can go and yes, an experience. You can only go lower if you keep digging...
post #374 of 767
Look out eke2k!

The fanboys are comin' fer ya!
post #375 of 767

the U-Shaped Frequency Response of the TF10 is just true for my ears. ;) 

 

the midrange was too dark and too far away, Guitars and Voices sound so lame and lifeless with these... and the w3? same problems, that's why I have prefered the W2 over them. I really CAN NOT stand recessed mids, I don't get how so many people don't seem to care about the midrange as long as the Bass is strong and the Treble is boosted like hell(the sound signature of the most headphones)... so much passion missing.  ;)

 

I would have sent the sd3 directly back and pick the sd2, definitely! but for my taste, the sd3 clarity and midrange presentation is very satisfying. :)


Edited by Nestroit - 7/18/13 at 12:49pm
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