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post #46 of 60
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Originally Posted by mcullinan View Post
 

Interesting... How does it compare with the Eximus(which I have) and you mention. You dont really give any descripting comparisons...

How much is this puppy?

Thx

 

So far, I had mixed feelings with the Eximus. I don't understand how it could get such rave reviews. It is a very fine DAC, but certainly not worth the $2500-3000 asking price.

 

Sure, the sweet and intimate presentation is very nice, but it lacks bass impact/extension and dynamics in general. Also, I don't hear that sense of flow the Metrum DACs are known for (the Eximus was described as a Metrum Octave on steroid). I really like the timbre presentation and the tonal richness, but the lit-up tonality is too much for the Hifiman headphones, IMO.

 

By comparison, I find the NFB-27 almost makes a home-run (tonal richness is where it falls short, but it is very organic nonetheless) and even the Ciunas DAC - which comes at 1/5 of the price - is a better match for my taste (tonal richness is there, this time).

 

The lack of dynamics is my main concern as it removes lots of the musical traits in my music (rock & derivatives). You could say I'm the opposite of Bourne Perfect: he found the M7 to be lacking "life" and "musicality" compared to the DP1 -> I found the opposite with the NFB-27 (which does not even have the tonal accuracy of the M7).

post #47 of 60

hmm... I dont notice a lack of dynamics. Maybe its your audio chain? Now I do notice a dynamics issue on other Dacs like the Ressonessence Concero. The bass is light and dynamics are not great (through speakers) I am a speaker guy but love cutting edge Dacs. Ill have to look into the Chord sounds like a keeper.

post #48 of 60

I heard that with a Paul Hynes Linear PSU it takes down megbuck dacs in PCM!

 

I have a BoTWs LPSU now and will get a Hynes in a month!

post #49 of 60

i understand one of the main gripes with the qutehd is the usb implementation.

as the newer model the "qutehd-ex" has an improved usb input, would this mean a decent usb-spdif adapter would now not be required?

post #50 of 60
Thread Starter 

Chord have updated the Chordette Qute HD (?), here's a good review I found...

 

 

http://www.theproaudiowebblog.com/#!chord-electronics-qute-ex-review/c1s94

post #51 of 60

Chordette qute-ex is a very good product, but it doesn't stand up to it's newer brother, Hugo.

post #52 of 60

Good review, thanks dan!

 

I suppose you used the USB input and supplied PSU?

The USB input of my QuteHD was really sub-par compared to the Ciunas Converter on the BCN input. Also, the TeddyPSU helped bring that hint of smoothness for a more realistic sound (that, not everybody will agree. I listen in conditions that let me hear such difference, I'll just leave it at that).

 

Now the good question is: why did I sell it?... :o Hugo... Hugo...

post #53 of 60
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Good review, thanks dan!

 

I suppose you used the USB input and supplied PSU?

The USB input of my QuteHD was really sub-par compared to the Ciunas Converter on the BCN input. Also, the TeddyPSU helped bring that hint of smoothness for a more realistic sound (that, not everybody will agree. I listen in conditions that let me hear such difference, I'll just leave it at that).

 

Now the good question is: why did I sell it?... :o Hugo... Hugo...

Exactly, maybe you can increase the performance with a linear supply and another usb interface, but you don't need anything else with Hugo, as it sounds excellent out of the box.

post #54 of 60
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post
 

Exactly, maybe you can increase the performance with a linear supply and another usb interface, but you don't need anything else with Hugo, as it sounds excellent out of the box.

Yes, that was the main reason why I was inclined to sell the QuteHD + TeddyPSU to get the Hugo. Yet, I still have to pay $600 over why I sold the combo for and I'm not sure it was a very smart move from me.

That, of course, is unless the Hugo really is a better DAC regardless.

post #55 of 60
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Originally Posted by Baxide View Post

They have become simpler and cheaper in most cases, The WM8741 is about 10 years old, but it is still one of the top five DAC chips.
Sound wise the newer chips don't give a better quality output. They perform just as good, or worse.
I agree like the 1796 PCM burr brown is up there as well. Great chip.
post #56 of 60
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

Remastering is subjective,,, I consider a re-master to be done from the original recording preferably by the original engineer & a band member... Van Morrison remastered his back catalogue the other year (except for Astral Weeks), Porcupine Tree remastered 'Up the Downstair' by swapping electronic drums to the real thing (that made a massive change) & Pink Floyd chuck out new remasters of the remaster every few years.

my understanding is however it was recorded is how it should be left, upsampling dilutes the signal via pc software(?) making it more 'airy' so appearing more detailed but with less body(?)... this is all a bit confusing in truth, I don't think I got things right. 

something I'd like to see is a vinyl-rip of Astral Weeks as I've never heard a decent copy of the album via cd (it sounds crap), the vinyl version is so much better... that said Astral Weeks 'live at the Hollywood Bowl' is a absolute stormer of a album & the production is top notch.

I know the likes of Linn & Naim push out HD/Hi-Res recordings that were actually recorded that way though most are genre specific, if you not into classical, jazz or the depressing drivel of their own signed artist your hardly going to make a switch & get rid of your cd collection.

talking of drivel... I ain't got a clue what all this malarkey is about, I'm just surmising.  

Well I don't think you are wrong about what you said about 'up sampling'. Something is definitely lost in these 'airy conversions' even in the likes of DSX, DSD and 32bit 384htz formats and conversions. Minor chucking my CDs. No way. wink.gif
post #57 of 60
ok. So for those who have had the pleasure testing out this chordette ex, what are some of the comparisons or impressions one can say when listening to standard redbook cd's compared to say 32bit 384htz?? Is it really leaps and bounds in terms of quality and sound imaging? I only ask cause the chordette ex specifically tackles DSD and 32 bit files to an alarming degree of precision. It's built for ten future indeed, but does it really go leaps and bounds over say 24/192?
Personally I seriously can't hear a quality or imagining difference between 24/96 and 24/192. I've never heard a 32 bit sampling before, so I'd love to hear what people have to say here with their experiences in this realm of definition. I imagine it sounds very bright? My guess.
post #58 of 60

DSD is not a particular strength of the Chord Dacs as they are PCM optimized. PCM is sweetspot of the Pulse Array Dac with WTA filtering.

 

Everything is upconverted to 2048fs PCM, from redbook to DSD128. Rob thinks this is superior to native DSD playback, but I respectfully disagree.


Edited by wisnon - 10/26/14 at 7:41am
post #59 of 60
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Originally Posted by wisnon View Post

DSD is not a praticular strength of the Chord Dacs as they are PCM optimized. PCM is sweetspot of the Pulse Array Dac with WTA filtering.

Everything is upconverted to 2048fs PCM, from redbook to DSD128. Rob thinks this is superior to native DSD playback, but I respectfully disagree.

Interesting. Very interesting. I think the watts transient filter is something I deeply have to explore. I'm actually really considering picking one up. I really want to experiment with DSD and 32 bit samplings. It's not so much the htz of 384 i am fascinated with its the bit depth and how the heck this chord responds to greater reproductions of this. Crazy pulse array. 😝🎶
post #60 of 60

I think the PA Dac and WTA filter is great for PCM, but less so for DSD.

 

Proper low pass filtration for DSD is the way to go in my book. DSD does just NOT sound up to its potential when converted or manipulated excessively. It loses the magic...

 

One fine day I would like to demonstrate this to Robert first hand. If he ever comes to my neck of the woods, I would make sure he hears the difference and make up his own mind.


Edited by wisnon - 10/26/14 at 7:42am
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